You have posters like @UGA03MAIN and @KoreyDawg who just post what they āhopeā happens. Saban did a number on those little fellas.Just goes to show you the low IQ fans that post on here
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Tbf nobody said bama would never land good players. What they questioned was if Deboer could be elite in that area the way Saban and Kirby are, and until he closes with a top 1-2 class the question mark still remains. He showed nothing to suggest heās a great recruiter at Washington and hasnāt run or really been associated with one of these recruiting factory southern programs before. But Iām sure weāll get more of these cries for validation with every commitment lol
You have to have a top 1-2 class to be considered āeliteā? Thatās a small group. Fire DeBoer if he canāt reach that standard IYAM.Tbf nobody said bama would never land good players. What they questioned was if Deboer could be elite in that area the way Saban and Kirby are, and until he closes with a top 1-2 class the question mark still remains. He showed nothing to suggest heās a great recruiter at Washington and hasnāt run or really been associated with one of these recruiting factory southern programs before. But Iām sure weāll get more of these cries for validation with every commitment lol
Someone is very sensitive about this issueYou have to have a top 1-2 class to be considered āeliteā? Thatās a small group. Fire DeBoer if he canāt reach that standard IYAM.
Damn you owned meYet he has as many projected 1st round draft picks from Wash this year as 4th and Kirby does
Rent free in this punkās head as usualYou have posters like @UGA03MAIN and @KoreyDawg who just post what they āhopeā happens. Saban did a number on those little fellas.
I mean Alabama recruits itself. Still worse than what Saban was doingIn in SEC ?
I mean Alabama recruits itself. Still worse than what Saban was doing
Seems to be a ridiculous standard, but go ahead with it. Aaron Donald is elite. All other DL are average. Patrick Mahomes is elite. All other QBs are average. Etc.Someone is very sensitive about this issue
I mean, this is the Bama job following Saban. Of course itās a high standard. Continuation of that kind of sustained dominance is going to require elite recruiting, at least it always has in the SEC.Seems to be a ridiculous standard, but go ahead with it. Aaron Donald is elite. All other DL are average. Patrick Mahomes is elite. All other QBs are average. Etc.
I said this a few weeks back when UGA Willy brought up this topic. Bama recruits itself to where finishing top 6 to 10 is almost automatic. The bench mark is Saban didn't have a class finish worse than 5 or 6 I believe. And finished top 2 or 3 every other year.I mean, this is the Bama job following Saban. Of course itās a high standard. Continuation of that kind of sustained dominance is going to require elite recruiting, at least it always has in the SEC.
I donāt disagreeā¦..just disagree with the premise that you have to be #1 or 2 to be elite.I mean, this is the Bama job following Saban. Of course itās a high standard. Continuation of that kind of sustained dominance is going to require elite recruiting, at least it always has in the SEC.
Here is what you fellas arenāt graspingā¦.the rules of recruiting have changed significantly over the last few years. You can be an āeliteā recruiter and still miss on your top guys because of $$$. Conversely, you can be a sh*tty recruiter but land top guys with NIL. The emphasis you guys are putting on the ability to recruit isnāt the same as it used to be.I said this a few weeks back when UGA Willy brought up this topic. Bama recruits itself to where finishing top 6 to 10 is almost automatic. The bench mark is Saban didn't have a class finish worse than 5 or 6 I believe. And finished top 2 or 3 every other year.
It turns into a significant talent gap being in the 6-12 range vs 1-3 range aggregated over 4 years. We saw it directly with Richt vs Kirby at UGA. That's not to say you can't get a special group once in a while where everything comes together being in that range, it's more evident when looking at sustaining things for a longer periodI donāt disagreeā¦..just disagree with the premise that you have to be #1 or 2 to be elite.
It averages out imo. Recruiting is a numbers game. I'd argue putting your eggs in one basket and getting outbid now hurts a lot more than just having a much larger pool to draw from with elite recruiting. And for the player you really prioritize, if the bids are close, the relationships still win out.Here is what you fellas arenāt graspingā¦.the rules of recruiting have changed significantly over the last few years. You can be an āeliteā recruiter and still miss on your top guys because of $$$. Conversely, you can be a sh*tty recruiter but land top guys with NIL. The emphasis you guys are putting on the ability to recruit isnāt the same as it used to be.
Oh boy if Georgia doesnāt win that game in Septemberā¦..Well, Tier 2 has Bama willy at practice...at this point, it doesn't matter who he gets there. Guy will have 3 to 4 losses this year
What about 3-6?It turns into a significant talent gap being in the 6-12 range vs 1-3 range aggregated over 4 years. We saw it directly with Richt vs Kirby at UGA. That's not to say you can't get a special group once in a while where everything comes together being in that range, it's more evident when looking at sustaining things for a longer period
āDespite NILā when everyone knows the bags that tOSU was throwing outā¦..It averages out imo. Recruiting is a numbers game. I'd argue putting your eggs in one basket and getting outbid now hurts a lot more than just having a much larger pool to draw from with elite recruiting. And for the player you really prioritize, if the bids are close, the relationships still win out.
Just look at the top 3 classes last cycle. Kirby, Saban, Day... despite NIL
Since Urban Ohio State has lived in the top 5. Day has continued that. Everyone is throwing bags aroundāDespite NILā when everyone knows the bags that tOSU was throwing outā¦..
The ability to just outrecruit others and stack the deck in your favor isnāt what it used to be. Xs and Os will be much more important going forward than it ever has been.
In years where hitting 3 means a 300+ composite class i'd call it elite. More of those than not you're in good shape, but even that merely as a ceiling will be a noticeable step down to what Saban has brought in. I think you Bama guys are so spoiled you're just used to what you've been gettingWhat about 3-6?
Right, which means simply ābeing a great recruiterā isnāt enough.Since Urban Ohio State has lived in the top 5. Day has continued that. Everyone is throwing bags around
This is an odd hill to die on considering Alabama is currently ranked higher than UGA in recruiting. Instead of letting things play out, UGA fans are painting themselves in a corner. Weird.In years where hitting 3 means a 300+ composite class i'd call it elite. More of those than not you're in good shape, but even that merely as a ceiling will be a noticeable step down to what Saban has brought in. I think you Bama guys are so spoiled you're just used to what you've been getting
no it means if everyone is throwing bags around, over the course of an entire class the difference will still be in recruitingRight, which means simply ābeing a great recruiterā isnāt enough.
It's April Willy, i know you're not new to recruitingThis is an odd hill to die on considering Alabama is currently ranked higher than UGA in recruiting. Instead of letting things play out, UGA fans are painting themselves in a corner. Weird.
You are making the assumption that there is a salary cap. Surely you donāt truly believe that.no it means if everyone is throwing bags around, over the course of an entire class the difference will still be in recruiting
btw throwing bags around isn't new either
I am aware of the month. Iām also aware that DeBoer has been on the job for less than 3 months, and UGA fans as well as everyone else probably didnāt think that he would recruit as well as he has so far. It is ok to admit it, but I doubt we get that.It's April Willy, i know you're not new to recruiting
If yall finish in the top 3 with a 300+ composite class, UGA fans as well as everyone else will stfu about Deboer's recruiting. It's that simple
No there's no salary cap, not sure where I implied thatYou are making the assumption that there is a salary cap. Surely you donāt truly believe that.
I think everyone is still in wait and see mode because again it's April. I'm not sure why you need the validation at this point other than it being an inner insecurity you're battlingI am aware of the month. Iām also aware that DeBoer has been on the job for less than 3 months, and UGA fans as well as everyone else probably didnāt think that he would recruit as well as he has so far. It is ok to admit it, but I doubt we get that.
Book ItWell, Tier 2 has Bama willy at practice...at this point, it doesn't matter who he gets there. Guy will have 3 to 4 losses this year
I couldnāt agree more, well stated WilliamHere is what you fellas arenāt graspingā¦.the rules of recruiting have changed significantly over the last few years. You can be an āeliteā recruiter and still miss on your top guys because of $$$. Conversely, you can be a sh*tty recruiter but land top guys with NIL. The emphasis you guys are putting on the ability to recruit isnāt the same as it used to be.
āEverybody pays so it will still come down to recruitingāā¦.that would mean something if everyone had the same budget, but we all know they donāt.No there's no salary cap, not sure where I implied that
I donāt need any validation, but will take every chance I get to throw it back at UGA fans. You guys have been like kids at Disneyland since Saban retired. It has been hilarious to watch.I think everyone is still in wait and see mode because again it's April. I'm not sure why you need the validation at this point other than it being an inner insecurity you're battling