Is Division 1 the toughest or division 3 ?The are currently in 11th grade, so these are Class of 2024 recruits.
They attend West Bend West HS. They both have 49-2 records this season.
They are competing in the Wisconsin States this coming weekend. Wisconsin States are divided into Division 1, Division 2, and Division 3. They'll be in Division 1. Connor is wrestling in the 195 class, and Cole is wrestling in the 285 class. TrackWrestling's brackets for the WIAA States does not list seeds, but both Connor and Cole are listed in the bracket position that usually goes to the #1 seed.
I'll add more when I learn it. Feel free to add whatever you know about either of them.
I would think that since they are already wrestling at 195 and 285 that they will not be coming in at 184 and 197 though, as is listed on spreadsheet. They still have another year to grow.But, who knows.Thanks to Dice for updating the spreadsheet.
It will be fascinating to see how all this shakes out.
Robell is the only Pa guy listed above the 285 twin, and he is going to play football. As for the 190, not sure about Lawrence, but Sasso is going to follow his brother at Ohio State, I believe.I learned to never doubt Cael when it comes to evaluating and developing talent, but I see a few PA wrestlers ranked above them....are these two the cream of the crop?
Sasso is going to VT.Robell is the only Pa guy listed above the 285 twin, and he is going to play football. As for the 190, not sure about Lawrence, but Sasso is going to follow his brother at Ohio State, I believe.
Thanks, I didn't look it up, just assumed he'd follow his brother. Knew he wasn't coming here, I did remember that.Sasso is going to VT.
Those are their postseason weights. In the regular season, they were 182 and 195.I would think that since they are already wrestling at 190 and 285 that they will not be coming in at 184 and 197 though, as is listed on spreadsheet. They still have another year to grow.But, who knows.
I learned to never doubt Cael when it comes to evaluating and developing talent, but I see a few PA wrestlers ranked above them....are these two the cream of the crop?
Lilledahl is a legitimate possibility. Knox and Duke…not sure. It would appear that they would be projected at the same weights as SVN, Haines, Kasak, and Sealy. Correa?? Bassett and Forrest are probably real options but both are freshman. Long way to go with their recruiting and growing. Time will tell.Asking someone in the know: Looking down the road, what are our odds of getting the following:
Lilledahl, Knox,Duke,Correa,Bassett, and Forrest ?? Not as a group, but individually. Thanks.
Asking someone in the know: Looking down the road, what are our odds of getting the following:
Lilledahl, Knox,Duke,Correa,Bassett, and Forrest ?? Not as a group, but individually. Thanks.
Prospect | Current HS Year |
Lilledahl | Junior |
Knox | Sophomore |
Duke | Sophomore |
Correa | Sophomore |
Bassett | Freshman |
Forrest | Freshman |
Never doubt the McMaster.First, take a look at where the respective prospects you listed are in high school:
Prospect Current HS Year Lilledahl Junior Knox Sophomore Duke Sophomore Correa Sophomore Bassett Freshman Forrest Freshman
Then, think about the history of when wrestlers have verballed to PSU under CS. Dalton Perry verballed to PSU as a freshman. I think Adam Busiello verballed to PSU as sophomore, but ended up at ASU before he landed at PSU via the transfer portal. I can't remember if Thomas Haines verballed as a sophomore or a junior. I may be forgetting a commit or two, but off the top of my head I can't recall any other verbals from wrestlers before their junior year. So in that context, it's way too early to be handicapping/speculating the odds of five of the wrestlers you mentioned landing at PSU. (Doesn't mean that some won't discuss it, but it appears that you're seeking a more informed opinion than speculation.)
The other thing to keep in mind is that CS and the coaches keep their cards very close to the vest with regards to recruiting. They do not like recruits speaking about their interaction with the PSU coaches, or tweeting pictures of such, etc. There are a small (very small) number of people that do get some inside information about PSU recruiting. And each of them knows that their access to such will pretty much disappear if they start disclosing said information in a public forum, or if they share such information with others that disclose it.
Lilledahl is the only prospect that you asked about that is a junior in HS. In another thread I mentioned that we should know his plans in the next six or so months.
I have no idea and I doubt anyone outside the staff really knows the details. It has been understood top guys are coming to PSU for less than a full ride. I strongly suspect there is some sort of meritocracy. There have also been kids who really liked PSU but could get a full ride elsewhere and did fine going that route.In light of the Mirasola news, I want to ask about scholarships. How are they allocated to the Wrestling program? Are they per year allocations or is there just a total amount with renewal when wrestlers leave the program?
Knox is unlikely. Doesn't seem like a good fit at PSU. I suspect we wont recruit him. He seems like exactly what Rutgers should but won't get.Asking someone in the know: Looking down the road, what are our odds of getting the following:
Lilledahl, Knox,Duke,Correa,Bassett, and Forrest ?? Not as a group, but individually. Thanks.
Nobody gets a full athletic scholarship at enrollment. Some have claimed so, but they were really the full aid package including grants and loans.In light of the Mirasola news, I want to ask about scholarships. How are they allocated to the Wrestling program? Are they per year allocations or is there just a total amount with renewal when wrestlers leave the program?
interesting, though I will note that your highest allotment of 60% does not add up if only 14 wrestlers are on scholarship (if all 14 were at 60%, that adds up to 8.4, and I'd be shocked if PSU wasn't using all 9.9). Reality no one outside the program will ever know.Nobody gets a full athletic scholarship at enrollment. Some have claimed so, but they were really the full aid package including grants and loans.
Highest we've seen confirmed during recruiting was Nick Nevills 60%. Usually it's much less, and far less than what the fans think.
Everyone gets told they have an opportunity for more scholarship money as their careers progress.
NCAA publishes team-level scholarship info within its graduation rate report. Last one I saw, PSU had 14 wrestlers on scholarship that year. (Names and allotments not listed.) With about 35-40 on the roster, Cael is employing a "heroes and zeroes" scholarship strategy.
Thomas Haines verballed as a JR. Matt Lee might have verballed as a SO -- he and Joe committed together. Otherwise I think Perry and Busiello were all.First, take a look at where the respective prospects you listed are in high school:
Prospect Current HS Year Lilledahl Junior Knox Sophomore Duke Sophomore Correa Sophomore Bassett Freshman Forrest Freshman
Then, think about the history of when wrestlers have verballed to PSU under CS. Dalton Perry verballed to PSU as a freshman. I think Adam Busiello verballed to PSU as sophomore, but ended up at ASU before he landed at PSU via the transfer portal. I can't remember if Thomas Haines verballed as a sophomore or a junior. I may be forgetting a commit or two, but off the top of my head I can't recall any other verbals from wrestlers before their junior year. So in that context, it's way too early to be handicapping/speculating the odds of five of the wrestlers you mentioned landing at PSU. (Doesn't mean that some won't discuss it, but it appears that you're seeking a more informed opinion than speculation.)
The other thing to keep in mind is that CS and the coaches keep their cards very close to the vest with regards to recruiting. They do not like recruits speaking about their interaction with the PSU coaches, or tweeting pictures of such, etc. There are a small (very small) number of people that do get some inside information about PSU recruiting. And each of them knows that their access to such will pretty much disappear if they start disclosing said information in a public forum, or if they share such information with others that disclose it.
Lilledahl is the only prospect that you asked about that is a junior in HS. In another thread I mentioned that we should know his plans in the next six or so months.
That was the highest at freshman enrollment, not necessarily the highest on the team.interesting, though I will note that your highest allotment of 60% does not add up if only 14 wrestlers are on scholarship (if all 14 were at 60%, that adds up to 8.4, and I'd be shocked if PSU wasn't using all 9.9). Reality no one outside the program will ever know.
Wow! That makes the sacrifice that these wrestlers make even more significant. Folks that have critical responses to disappointing performances might want to consider this. Thx for the insight, sir.Nobody gets a full athletic scholarship at enrollment. Some have claimed so, but they were really the full aid package including grants and loans.
Highest we've seen confirmed during recruiting was Nick Nevills 60%. Usually it's much less, and far less than what the fans think.
Everyone gets told they have an opportunity for more scholarship money as their careers progress.
NCAA publishes team-level scholarship info within its graduation rate report. Last one I saw, PSU had 14 wrestlers on scholarship that year. (Names and allotments not listed.) With about 35-40 on the roster, Cael is employing a "heroes and zeroes" scholarship strategy.