“State funding an 'irreplaceable keystone' of Penn State's land-grant mission” (“…keeping tuition lower for Pennsylvania residents”)

BobPSU92

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See the link below. From the article:

“The importance of state funding in allowing Penn State to carry out its mission on behalf of Pennsylvanians is immense,” said Penn State President Eric J. Barron. “From enabling the University to provide a lower in-state tuition rate that benefits thousands of Pennsylvania students and their families, to the programs, resources and know-how offered by Penn State Extension, to access to top-quality care through Penn State Health, the impact of our appropriations can be felt in every community across Pennsylvania.”


Got-thisness.
 
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Of course, that presumes they are being both efficient and effective on the expense side of the equation. I don’t think I know that.
The history of subsidies shows that they give little incentive to control costs, and until proven otherwise, I am presuming that to be the case here.
I have read in the past that the commonwealth provides relative little compared to other major universities.
 
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See the link below. From the article:

“The importance of state funding in allowing Penn State to carry out its mission on behalf of Pennsylvanians is immense,” said Penn State President Eric J. Barron. “From enabling the University to provide a lower in-state tuition rate that benefits thousands of Pennsylvania students and their families, to the programs, resources and know-how offered by Penn State Extension, to access to top-quality care through Penn State Health, the impact of our appropriations can be felt in every community across Pennsylvania.”


Got-thisness.
Love the "keystone" pun in the subject line!

What statesmanship too. It really has that "from sea to shining sea" ring to it. I'm verklempt!
 
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Every year the university president and the General Assembly play the game of talking about controlling tuition so affordable higher education is available to all. It sounds great but neither is committed to it. The president and BoT don't do much to control costs while the GA doesn't do much to significantly increase the state appropriation. Just keep bring in those out-of-state kids who pay double the resident tuition rate. They'll help keep the financial boat afloat.
 
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I don’t get it.
I see what you mean. Got it. This is the part I'm verklempt about -

“The importance of state funding in allowing Penn State to carry out its mission on behalf of Pennsylvanians is immense,” said Penn State President Eric J. Barron. “From enabling the University to provide a lower in-state tuition rate that benefits thousands of Pennsylvania students and their families, to the programs, resources and know-how offered by Penn State Extension, to access to top-quality care through Penn State Health, the impact of our appropriations can be felt in every community across Pennsylvania.”

Not the pun, although that was good.
 

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Every year the university president and the General Assembly play the game of talking about controlling tuition so affordable higher education is available to all. It sounds great but neither is committed to it. The president and BoT don't do much to control costs while the GA doesn't do much to significantly increase the state appropriation. Just keep bring in those out-of-state kids who pay double the resident tuition rate. They'll help keep the financial boat afloat.
THIS.

Will add it really is an outgoing political charade. The university proposes a 6-8% increase and the state comes back with 1.3-2.5% which covers rising costs, very little of in-state tuition increases and nothing else. PSU is not a state school. Penn State is a state-related university. When I explain this to people in VA or NC, they always look dumbfounded. How can a university pretend to be a state school?

When state support is below 10%. That's how. Result: keep inching up out of state enrollment numbers and tuition. Keep feathering the nests of the BOT.
 

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THIS.

Will add it really is an outgoing political charade. The university proposes a 6-8% increase and the state comes back with 1.3-2.5% which covers rising costs, very little of in-state tuition increases and nothing else. PSU is not a state school. Penn State is a state-related university. When I explain this to people in VA or NC, they always look dumbfounded. How can a university pretend to be a state school?

When state support is below 10%. That's how. Result: keep inching up out of state enrollment numbers and tuition. Keep feathering the nests of the BOT.
If that is the parameter, no Big Ten university is a public school. Penn State gets right around the average per in-state student, in the form of general state appropriation, of other Big Ten universities. And when you count the funding for the capital budget - received from the respective state - Penn State receives more Pennsylvania taxpayer dollars than any other Big Ten university receives from their home state.
Penn State is every bit as much of a state university as any Big Ten schools, or UVA, VT, UNC, or NCState.

In total, in each of the last 2 years, Penn State received approximately $1 billion of PA taxpayer funding. Less than 1/2 of that, somewhere on the order of $350-400 million was in the form of general appropriation (that is the figure that always gets talked about).
 
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If that is the parameter, no Big Ten university is a public school. Penn State gets right around the average per in-state student, in the form of general state appropriation, of other Big Ten universities. And when you count the funding for the capital budget - received from the respective state - Penn State receives more Pennsylvania taxpayer dollars than any other Big Ten university receives from their home state.

In total, in each of the last 2 years, Penn State received approximately $1 billion of PA taxpayer funding. Less than 1/2 of that, somewhere on the order of $350-400 million was in the form of general appropriation (that is the figure that always gets talked about).
Ah yes, the capital budget. That is conveniently left out and a veritable dining trough.
 

ApexLion

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If that is the parameter, no Big Ten university is a public school. Penn State gets right around the average per in-state student, in the form of general state appropriation, of other Big Ten universities. And when you count the funding for the capital budget - received from the respective state - Penn State receives more Pennsylvania taxpayer dollars than any other Big Ten university receives from their home state.
Penn State is every bit as much of a state university as any Big Ten schools, or UVA, VT, UNC, or NCState.

In total, in each of the last 2 years, Penn State received approximately $1 billion of PA taxpayer funding. Less than 1/2 of that, somewhere on the order of $350-400 million was in the form of general appropriation (that is the figure that always gets talked about).
You consider the graft money in your calculations? Who do you work for?
 
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Over the years, the relationship between PSU and Harrisburg has become poisoned, and that's discounting Corbett entirely, probably beyond repair.
 

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Of course, that presumes they are being both efficient and effective on the expense side of the equation. I don’t think I know that.
The history of subsidies shows that they give little incentive to control costs, and until proven otherwise, I am presuming that to be the case here.
I have read in the past that the commonwealth provides relative little compared to other major universities.
the state needs to reserve funds to be able to overpay the state legislature
 
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