“UNC QB Drake Maye: Transfer talk, $5M NIL deals all 'rumors'” (nardoozie instigated)

[BobPSU92]

See the link below. From the article:

”In an interview with ESPN on Thursday, Maye reflected on the past few weeks, which included a social media post declaring he was staying at UNC as a way to combat rumors of him entering the transfer portal. Pittsburgh coach Pat Narduzzi stoked the flames by saying this week that two schools offered Maye $5 million to transfer.

"Those rumors weren't really reality," he told ESPN. He added: "Pitt's coach ended up putting that out there. I don't know what that was about. You have to enter the transfer portal to talk to these schools and hear these offers. For me, I think college football is going to turn into a mess. They're going to have to do something. There was nothing to me or my family directly offered from any of these other schools. Nothing was said or offered to the Mayes."”

UNC's Maye: Transfer talk, NIL deals all 'rumors'

North Carolina QB Drake Maye tells ESPN that reports of his possible transfer and lucrative NIL offers "weren't really reality."

www.espn.com

Please take this opportunity to remember that Penn State has a culture problem.

 

[nittanyfan333]

God I hate Nardouche………

 

[JoeBatters1]

“For me, I think college football is going to turn into a mess.”

I’ll give Maye credit for being honest about the state of “college” football.

 

[Midnighter]

Why are schools breaking the banks (facilities, coaching salaries, keeping up with the 'Bamas) when there isn't really a whole lot of financial incentive to win National Championships? Sure, you get bigger payouts in the CFP, but this list from 2020 has the top 15 highest grossing football programs for the year.

Power 5 -- Top 15

1. Texas -- $156 million (No CFP appearances)
2. Georgia -- $123 million (4 CFP, 1 NC)
3. Michigan -- $122 million (2 CFP)
4. Notre Dame -- $116 million (2 CFP)
5. Ohio State -- $115 million (6 CFP, 1 NC)
6. Penn State -- $100 million (No CFP appearances)
7. Auburn -- $95 million (No CFP appearances)
8. Oklahoma -- $94.8 million (4 CFP)
9. Alabama -- $94.6 million (13 CFP appearances)
10. Nebraska -- $94.3 million (No CFP appearances)
11. LSU -- $92 million (2 CFP, 1 NC)
12. Tennessee -- $91 million (No CFP appearances)
13. Wisconsin -- $90 million (No CFP apperances)
14. Florida -- $85 million (No CFP appearances)
15. Washington -- $84 million (1 CFP)

This is why ND gives two f*cks about Brian Kelly leaving. No coach will make or break them. Same with most programs here. Trying to keep up with Bama and OSU won't work with NIL in its current form. PSU needs to be able to pay players directly, unless the alumni network can get about $50mm together... I predict this will happen with OSU at some point too while schools like Tennessee will do whatever it takes to win a NC.

USC in 2020 was fifth in the Pac 12 with $50mm.

 

[ChandlerPearce]

Not sure the Alumni network will donate anywhere near that amount of money until JVP is honored and exonerated from the allegations against him. Unfortunately THAT is hurting the NIL program...i hear those remarks weekly at our Alumni chapter gatherings. For PSU to be able to pay players the rules would need to be changed and i imagine they will need to cut some sports programs to reduce operating costs. I would love to see how the 100 million is spent. Like every business there most likely are questionable expenses.

 

[CvilleElksCoach]

Not sure the Alumni network will donate anywhere near that amount of money until JVP is honored and exonerated from the allegations against him. Unfortunately THAT is hurting the NIL program...i hear those remarks weekly at our Alumni chapter gatherings. For PSU to be able to pay players the rules would need to be changed and i imagine they will need to cut some sports programs to reduce operating costs. I would love to see how the 100 million is spent. Like every business there most likely are questionable expenses.

Sorry, not sorry. At this point, considering there has been a good level of kiss and make up from Pat and Neeli with the Paterno family, this is a stupid reason not to support our student athletes. Isnt that the same thinking the ncaa used to punish PSU, hurt the people that weren’t responsible? NIL contributions don’t go to PSU. They go directly to the SAs or via the collective. Pathetic excuse.

 

[BobPSU92]

Sorry, not sorry. At this point, considering there has been a good level of kiss and make up from Pat and Neeli with the Paterno family, this is a stupid reason not to support our student athletes. Isnt that the same thinking the ncaa used to punish PSU, hurt the people that weren’t responsible? NIL contributions don’t go to PSU. They go directly to the SAs or via the collective. Pathetic excuse.

One reason people aren’t donating is simply because they don’t believe in NIL payments for (what are supposed to be) student-athletes. How much money and for what? Drew Allar doesn’t need to drive a Tesla.

 

[OuiRPSU]

One reason people aren’t donating is simply because they don’t believe in NIL payments for (what are supposed to be) student-athletes. How much money and for what? Drew Allar doesn’t need to drive a Tesla.

That’s exactly how I feel. I think, for me, it’s the memories of my time at PSU (which includes home games and listening to PSU away games on the radio in State College) and affinity for what were the best 4 consecutive years of my life that keeps pulling me back. Every season it’s two steps away from college football, one step back.

As for college hoops…well, that’s a story for another board.

 

[ChandlerPearce]

Sorry, not sorry. At this point, considering there has been a good level of kiss and make up from Pat and Neeli with the Paterno family, this is a stupid reason not to support our student athletes. Isnt that the same thinking the ncaa used to punish PSU, hurt the people that weren’t responsible? NIL contributions don’t go to PSU. They go directly to the SAs or via the collective. Pathetic excuse.

Not even close.....sorry but not sorry.

 

[Bison13]

Part of me really hopes that Maye is telling the truth because it shows what a dickhead Narduzzi is. Of course I also know that it probably did really happen.

as a former college athlete, I absolutely believe that these kids should be getting something beyond the scholarship since they don’t get the normal college experience. The extra hours that they have to spend in film for the weight room and practice does not allow them to do the social things or they get the job that many did while in school to pay for things they want. I get all the stuff about having tutors and better meals and that stuff but they do need something.

I’m not exactly sure the current process of NIL is the way to do it though. As Bob said, no one needs to drive a Tesla.

 

[blion72]

“For me, I think college football is going to turn into a mess.”

I’ll give Maye credit for being honest about the state of “college” football.

that was good to see the honesty. interesting comment he made "you have to enter the transfer portal to talk to the schools". Are the schools themselves even able to talk about NIL $$ and make offers? the schools don't make the payments, and most may not even be allowed given how their payrolls are managed. I thought that was all 3rd parties making the deals.

Second, can the NIL $$$ be offered on the condition of playing at a school? Can this be done if a player has indicated no intention of transfer? I thought that if say a car dealer is offering the player for NIL that it was just for their value not associated with playing at the school.

 

[WyomingLion]

Sorry, not sorry. At this point, considering there has been a good level of kiss and make up from Pat and Neeli with the Paterno family, this is a stupid reason not to support our student athletes. Isnt that the same thinking the ncaa used to punish PSU, hurt the people that weren’t responsible? NIL contributions don’t go to PSU. They go directly to the SAs or via the collective. Pathetic excuse.

Then you believe that people should trash a great man’s reputation with no consequences? That is the only leverage that they can exert. They are not doing it to punish student athletes, it’s collateral damage and unfortunate. The administration could change this in a blink of the eye. This is on the BOT not Pat and Neeli.

 

[PSUJam]

Drew Allar doesn’t need to drive a Tesla.

I agree. He's the top QB of that class. It should at least be a BMW.

 

[razpsu]

 

[BobPSU92]

I agree. He's the top QB of that class. It should at least be a BMW.

And for Sean Clifford:

 

[leinbacker]

that was good to see the honesty. interesting comment he made "you have to enter the transfer portal to talk to the schools". Are the schools themselves even able to talk about NIL $$ and make offers? the schools don't make the payments, and most may not even be allowed given how their payrolls are managed. I thought that was all 3rd parties making the deals.

Second, can the NIL $$$ be offered on the condition of playing at a school? Can this be done if a player has indicated no intention of transfer? I thought that if say a car dealer is offering the player for NIL that it was just for their value not associated with playing at the school.

i wonder that too, given (I guess) it’s a contract, put the bulk of payment contingent on completing something, like two years plus bowls.

 

[leinbacker]

Then you believe that people should trash a great man’s reputation with no consequences? That is the only leverage that they can exert. They are not doing it to punish student athletes, it’s collateral damage and unfortunate. The administration could change this in a blink of the eye. This is on the BOT not Pat and Neeli.

The BOT trashed the athletes and fans when they said we had a culture problem, hired frauds like Freeh and Mitchell to prove it. Make no mistake, Freeh gave the BOT exactly what they wanted. Photos of Neeli/Pat with SuePa doesn’t change that. The BOT has the means to correct the record but refuse to do so.

 

[leinbacker]

Part of me really hopes that Maye is telling the truth because it shows what a dickhead Narduzzi is. Of course I also know that it probably did really happen.

as a former college athlete, I absolutely believe that these kids should be getting something beyond the scholarship since they don’t get the normal college experience. The extra hours that they have to spend in film for the weight room and practice does not allow them to do the social things or they get the job that many did while in school to pay for things they want. I get all the stuff about having tutors and better meals and that stuff but they do need something.

I’m not exactly sure the current process of NIL is the way to do it though. As Bob said, no one needs to drive a Tesla.

A lot of kids don’t get the normal college experience, they can’t afford tuition, housing, etc. let alone get free healthcare, housing, meals, councilors, etc. If receiving these amenities is such a burden, they can turn it down.

 

[RockyMtnLion]

And for Sean Clifford:

But, but. . . It was a brand new luxury car when Cliff started at PSU

 

[DaytonRickster]

See the link below. From the article:

”In an interview with ESPN on Thursday, Maye reflected on the past few weeks, which included a social media post declaring he was staying at UNC as a way to combat rumors of him entering the transfer portal. Pittsburgh coach Pat Narduzzi stoked the flames by saying this week that two schools offered Maye $5 million to transfer.

"Those rumors weren't really reality," he told ESPN. He added: "Pitt's coach ended up putting that out there. I don't know what that was about. You have to enter the transfer portal to talk to these schools and hear these offers. For me, I think college football is going to turn into a mess. They're going to have to do something. There was nothing to me or my family directly offered from any of these other schools. Nothing was said or offered to the Mayes."”

UNC's Maye: Transfer talk, NIL deals all 'rumors'

North Carolina QB Drake Maye tells ESPN that reports of his possible transfer and lucrative NIL offers "weren't really reality."

www.espn.com

Please take this opportunity to remember that Penn State has a culture problem.

I say he is not being forthright. Why would his head ciach complain about if it were not true? The amount of $ might be off, but I believe there was big $ offered to him and he simply doesn't want to get involved in an investigation. That's my take.

 

[LionJim]

I say he is not being forthright. Why would his head ciach complain about if it were not true? The amount of $ might be off, but I believe there was big $ offered to him and he simply doesn't want to get involved in an investigation. That's my take.

What sort of investigation would this be? I don’t see anything illegal happening here.

 

[CvilleElksCoach]

The BOT trashed the athletes and fans when they said we had a culture problem, hired frauds like Freeh and Mitchell to prove it. Make no mistake, Freeh gave the BOT exactly what they wanted. Photos of Neeli/Pat with SuePa doesn’t change that. The BOT has the means to correct the record but refuse to do so.

There is far more than photos of the two. There have been multiple actions. But I get it’s a convenient excuse many still use not contribute that they were going to contribute anyway. Some times you need to move on and follow the direction and actions by others, in this case the Paterno’s.

 

[BobPSU92]

There is far more than photos of the two. There have been multiple actions. But I get it’s a convenient excuse many still use not contribute that they were going to contribute anyway. Some times you need to move on and follow the direction and actions by others, in this case the Paterno’s.

These actions have not been highly visible and, as a result, have not changed the narrative. I’m sure the Paternos have seen nice gestures from Neeli and Kraft, but these gestures have not helped the broader Penn State. The bottom line is Penn State has not embraced Joe Paterno’s legacy in any way close to how it did before the sandusky scandal. Many fans and alumni want to see public, highly visible, and lasting gestures. Additionally, fans and alumni want to see Penn State correct the record, publicly, as it relates to sandusky.

It’s fine if you have moved on. Many have not and have good reason for not doing so. It’s their money, and they will do with it as they see fit. Calling their reasons for refusing to give money to Penn State an “excuse” obviously does not help and will not change anything.

 

[PSUFBFAN]

These actions have not been highly visible and, as a result, have not changed the narrative. I’m sure the Paternos have seen nice gestures from Neeli and Kraft, but these gestures have not helped the broader Penn State. The bottom line is Penn State has not embraced Joe Paterno’s legacy in any way close to how it did before the sandusky scandal. Many fans and alumni want to see public, highly visible, and lasting gestures. Additionally, fans and alumni want to see Penn State correct the record, publicly, as it relates to sandusky.

It’s fine if you have moved on. Many have not and have good reason for not doing so. It’s their money, and they will do with it as they see fit. Calling their reasons for refusing to give money to Penn State an “excuse” obviously does not help and will not change anything.

Here's my take:

Let's say PSU goes full tilt on honoring JoePa - they name the stadium after him, they put his statue back up in the one corner of the end zone, his records are permanently displayed at the stadium, etc.

Then, they sit back and wait for the donations to pour in ... after a few weeks/months, they look around and say "is that all?" IOW, I think the number of people and the dollars being withheld are being greatly overestimated by many folks.

 

[BobPSU92]

Here's my take:

Let's say PSU goes full tilt on honoring JoePa - they name the stadium after him, they put his statue back up in the one corner of the end zone, his records are permanently displayed at the stadium, etc.

Then, they sit back and wait for the donations to pour in ... after a few weeks/months, they look around and say "is that all?" IOW, I think the number of people and the dollars being withheld are being greatly overestimated by many folks.

Could very well be, but Penn State should not embrace Joe’s legacy and clear the record for money.

 

[GrimReaper]

Here's my take:

Let's say PSU goes full tilt on honoring JoePa - they name the stadium after him, they put his statue back up in the one corner of the end zone, his records are permanently displayed at the stadium, etc.

Then, they sit back and wait for the donations to pour in ... after a few weeks/months, they look around and say "is that all?" IOW, I think the number of people and the dollars being withheld are being greatly overestimated by many folks.

And the downside is what?

 

[Connorpozlee]

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Didn’t Brown get a lot of top recruits when he was at a Texas?

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

Sorry, not sorry. At this point, considering there has been a good level of kiss and make up from Pat and Neeli with the Paterno family, this is a stupid reason not to support our student athletes. Isnt that the same thinking the ncaa used to punish PSU, hurt the people that weren’t responsible? NIL contributions don’t go to PSU. They go directly to the SAs or via the collective. Pathetic excuse.

Surely there are better charities to support than PSU football?

 

[DaytonRickster]

What sort of investigation would this be? I don’t see anything illegal happening here.

His coach indicated the "schools" were offering the money.

 

[GrimReaper]

His coach indicated the "schools" were offering the money.

Yes, football coaches are so precise with their use of the English language.

 

[leinbacker]

There is far more than photos of the two. There have been multiple actions. But I get it’s a convenient excuse many still use not contribute that they were going to contribute anyway. Some times you need to move on and follow the direction and actions by others, in this case the Paterno’s.

Why should I buy a football player a car that I can't even afford?

Yeah, sure, multiple actions, that nobody outside the those that follow football the closest know about. Why do you think it is so difficult for them to issue an official press release and conference telling the world they were wrong and provide the action they will take going forward? As Lanny Davis would advice them, just blame it on the ones that are no longer there (Surma, Peetz, Frazier, etc.).

 

[LionJim]

His coach indicated the "schools" were offering the money.

Ah. Yeah, not kosher. Thanks.