Big Ten fines Ohio State, Michigan $100K each for postgame fight after Wolverines' stunning win
Michigan and Ohio State players got caught in a giant melee following the Wolverines' 13-10 win
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$100K fine for Mich and tOSU
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Will there be any criminal charges by the police for failure to disburse, maybe assaulting an officer? Thought I saw some policemen getting jostled in the scrums.
I thought one cop needed medical treatment.
They should fine the players now that they get paid
There has to be some sort of official investigation being conducted by the OSU police. In the end I doubt anything will come of it but the officer(s) who deployed the pepper spray obviously thought the situation escalated to the point where that level of force had to be used to protect others. It needs to be documented along with a justification for the use of pepper spray in the event someone sustained a lasting injury because of it. They can't just spray and walk away.
Per the Big (10)(18), UMich has to pay tOSU $100,000 and tOSU has to pay UMich $100,000.
It is and always has been the Big (2)(x)!
It is and always has been the Big (2)(x)!
If the players behaved themselves, they wouldn't have been pepper sprayed.
Apparently tOSU officers thought that their pepper spray was appropriate since UMich had just salted away the victory?
What a joke. No accountability. Suspensions THIS season should happen. Individuals fined. I’m tired of this shite. Maybe I talk like this because I’ve been a HS teacher. But, I’m really done with this kind of crap not being punished. It’s one thing for it to be a rivalry game, but this is crazy.
That’ll show ’em.
Now if Penn State was involved, they would be banned from post-season play and not allowed their share of the bowl revenue.
Now if Penn State was involved, they would be banned from post-season play and not allowed their share of the bowl revenue.
There is a lot of overreaction in this thread because of the understandable disdain for Ohio State and Michigan.
Football skirmishes have been occurring for years. Nothing new here. The fine basically amounts to a small food expense for recruiting.
Michigan and Ohio State athletic departments generate a combined half a billion dollars a year. So the fines represent .02 percent of their annual revenues. Basically peanuts.
Sure the optics looked bad on TV. The reality is this is a nothing burger which is why the fine was a slap on the wrist. A stronger message would be for the B1G to ban school flags from the field of play.
Football skirmishes have been occurring for years. Nothing new here. The fine basically amounts to a small food expense for recruiting.
Michigan and Ohio State athletic departments generate a combined half a billion dollars a year. So the fines represent .02 percent of their annual revenues. Basically peanuts.
Sure the optics looked bad on TV. The reality is this is a nothing burger which is why the fine was a slap on the wrist. A stronger message would be for the B1G to ban school flags from the field of play.
Well they sure as hell weren’t going to suspend any Buckeye players; the playoffs are coming up.Big Ten fines Ohio State, Michigan $100K each for postgame fight after Wolverines' stunning win
Michigan and Ohio State players got caught in a giant melee following the Wolverines' 13-10 win
Both should have to pay each school $100K for the damage they did to the Big brand
As others have said, what lessons are there for the players if the schools are fined, but no financial implications to coaches or players? Coaches either 'coach it or allow it' with on field personal fouls and unsportsmanlike behavior, why not the same with unsportsmanlike behavior post-game?
Why not treat it like targeting for penalizing the players? Sit 'em for the next game. Hockey does something like that by kicking out players for certain majors, and that threat hanging over the players has minimized outright cheap shots, and all but eliminated fighting.
Fine the HC whenever it happens, fine other coaches/staff who aid and abet, fine the players involved, fine the AD, fine the school, take away bowl or media money, suspend the players and coaches. Taking away individuals' money and playing/coaching time will have an impact. If coaches and players can't figure out good sportsmanship on their own, give them some incentive to do so. Let's make sure sportsmanship and character always matter in college sports.
Why not treat it like targeting for penalizing the players? Sit 'em for the next game. Hockey does something like that by kicking out players for certain majors, and that threat hanging over the players has minimized outright cheap shots, and all but eliminated fighting.
Fine the HC whenever it happens, fine other coaches/staff who aid and abet, fine the players involved, fine the AD, fine the school, take away bowl or media money, suspend the players and coaches. Taking away individuals' money and playing/coaching time will have an impact. If coaches and players can't figure out good sportsmanship on their own, give them some incentive to do so. Let's make sure sportsmanship and character always matter in college sports.
"Fine the players involved" - obviously not a realistic possibility (at least until schools actually start paying players and they are under contract).
After this weekend, I'm confident that the NCAA will address this during the offseason and you'll see something in next year's rulebook about postgame decorum of players/staffs.
Schools directly paying NIL money will be here soon.
Still, they are already getting NIL money, and need to be hit where it hurts -- that's either via their playing time or their personal funds.
Playing time, sure. But how do you take away "their personal funds" when they aren't employees, aren't all getting NIL, aren't getting paid by the school/conference, etc.?
Sounds like a great lawsuit for the players when you try making them pay you when they're out there making you money and you've been arguing against them being employees to avoid paying them..
You could say that the same should have been true for us at USC. I'm quite certain though that it will be addressed at a "macro" level and we won't see any of it in future years.
Do you think the BTN will mention it? I watched the Final Drive and they seemed to make a bigger deal about Franklin and Locksley than the post game fight and the pepper spraying of players and media.Big Ten fines Ohio State, Michigan $100K each for postgame fight after Wolverines' stunning win
Michigan and Ohio State players got caught in a giant melee following the Wolverines' 13-10 win
Meanwhile the BTN is/was much more interested in the Franklin/Locksley post game "greeting".
Should be more than an enough evidence for suspending some of the players for the bowl game or the playoffs.
Also not sure what that cop was thinking just indiscriminately deploying the pepper spray.
Especially when #8 for Michy went back a second time to plant it. I don't blame the OSU player, Sawyer, at all.
The whole thing of planting your flag in the opponents logo is stupid. Even more stupid when your win capped off a 7-5 season.
From one of the videos that I saw, it looked like someone was on the ground with several people on top of him. I'd assume that he was spraying it since he thought that person was in danger (couldn't tell if it was a player, staff member, media, etc) to try and disperse that area.Also not sure what that cop was thinking just indiscriminately deploying the pepper spray.
James Franklin stopped a Penn State player from doing this after the USC game.
And how would you do that? Beyond all of the legal ramifications of trying to claim players aren't employees, but then trying to "fine" them...how are you withholding NIL money when it's never actually in the school's hands? Are you telling Canyon Pizza that even though they've made a deal with Nick Singleton, they should send his check to you this month instead of Nick?
Yes, your point about the control of the NIL money as that currently stands is understood.
Chump change. Penn State BOT gave 30 times that amount (3 million) to the lowliest, unvetted of Sandusky's accusers.Big Ten fines Ohio State, Michigan $100K each for postgame fight after Wolverines' stunning win
Michigan and Ohio State players got caught in a giant melee following the Wolverines' 13-10 win