But considering the way they've pitched so far, either they are hammered before each game or they just suck period. I'm fairly certain it's the latter although you almost have to try to walk 17 people. It was already setting up to be a ****** season but with Turner sidelined, it just added insult to injury. Jet has never impressed me and Ryan Powers should still be in New York playing for a YMCA or something. We've gotten nothing from the 2nd base position since Turner went down. It's a mute point though since Turner doesn't pitch. I gotta be honest, I've always felt like McNickle was the only capable coach on the staff but I'm severely disappointed in his development of guys that pitched pretty well last year. I knew Ed, Rea, and Moreland were great players but never thought replacing 3 guys would be this difficult. Rea was half the size but twice the talent of any of these clowns we've got now.