2023 Final X Thread

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The USA Team for the 2023 World Championships will be determined at Final X, on June 10. Please use this thread for all pre-meet, in-meet, and post-meet discussion about Final X.
 

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I'm giving everyone plenty of advance warning. I'm traveling most of Friday to attend a conference, and then will be participating in it all day on Saturday and half of Sunday -- and then traveling home. In short, I'll try to check in on this thread, but you guys are going to have to post the results, discuss it, etc.
 

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I'm giving everyone plenty of advance warning. I'm traveling most of Friday to attend a conference, and then will be participating in it all day on Saturday and half of Sunday -- and then traveling home. In short, I'll try to check in on this thread, but you guys are going to have to post the results, discuss it, etc.
Just as an addition to this, I have a full day event on Saturday that will allow me to check in every now and then to post updates, but I don't expect to get to a full recap until Sunday barring a change.
 

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I wish Brooks would have gone 92kg this year and would have almost been guaranteed to bring home a medal.
 
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Sure hope the day comes-soon-when this FInal X event-gets the national tv exposure it deserves. I remember when the NCAA finals -not so long ago-had little or no exposure on ESPN-it was shown at odd times and got very low ratings. Now ESPN covers NCAA tournament in prime time and gets pretty decent ratings. I hope that appreciation of how great these are-both the men and women-and it gets the coverage it deserves. Obviously there are more female high school and college and national wrestlers than ever. Should be great event but so many are not going to see it live because of lack of exposure on tv other than through FLO wrestling. Good luck to the PSU wrestlers and NLWC wrestlers-all can not win as some are competing against each other. Hope it is a great event.
 

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Sure hope the day comes-soon-when this FInal X event-gets the national tv exposure it deserves. I remember when the NCAA finals -not so long ago-had little or no exposure on ESPN-it was shown at odd times and got very low ratings. Now ESPN covers NCAA tournament in prime time and gets pretty decent ratings. I hope that appreciation of how great these are-both the men and women-and it gets the coverage it deserves. Obviously there are more female high school and college and national wrestlers than ever. Should be great event but so many are not going to see it live because of lack of exposure on tv other than through FLO wrestling. Good luck to the PSU wrestlers and NLWC wrestlers-all can not win as some are competing against each other. Hope it is a great event.
I highly doubt we ever get to that point. I could be wrong but I don't think ESPN is really looking to acquire off-brand events at this point (at least it relates to major college and professional leagues versus this) and FLO has been a long-time supporter and broadcaster of it.
 

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Greg-just curious how many viewers does FLO have vs any ESPN channel? and how were ratings on wrestling NCAA tournament this year?And why did ESPN add to coverage of NCAA tournament (more days in and finals in prime time) in recent years vs several years ago when only the finals were on and not at a great time. It is all about ratings and money. Just curious. With more females wrestling at all levels, curious if that will increase viewership down the road. I know it sure would be tough to afford-without a lot of donors- another varsity sport at PSU but it they were to do I would think it would be womens wrestling. In all honesty I have been surprised at how popular it has become at high school level but sure has across the country.
 

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Greg-just curious how many viewers does FLO have vs any ESPN channel? and how were ratings on wrestling NCAA tournament this year?And why did ESPN add to coverage of NCAA tournament (more days in and finals in prime time) in recent years vs several years ago when only the finals were on and not at a great time. It is all about ratings and money. Just curious. With more females wrestling at all levels, curious if that will increase viewership down the road. I know it sure would be tough to afford-without a lot of donors- another varsity sport at PSU but it they were to do I would think it would be womens wrestling. In all honesty I have been surprised at how popular it has become at high school level but sure has across the country.
Not a clue on the FLO viewers. They aren't required to release their subscription or viewership information. Finals viewership for NCAAs was down this year.

 

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Not a clue on the FLO viewers. They aren't required to release their subscription or viewership information. Finals viewership for NCAAs was down this year.


I think Andrew's numbers miss the ESPN+ viewership. I would fall into the 28% less viewership because I didn't watch ESPN TV broadcast/cable but in reality I watched more of the tournament than I ever have (on ESPN+). Note that I tip my hat to ESPN+, I thought they did an excellent job. It was a slight tweak to how ESPN had presented the tournament before.
 
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Third place matches... not a bad card in and of itself. Start at 12:30.

Men’s freestyle
57 kg – Nick Suriano (Sunkist Kids WC) vs. Jakob Camacho (Wolfpack WC/Titan Mercury WC)
61 kg – Daton Fix (Cowboy RTC/Titan Mercury WC) vs. Austin DeSanto (Hawkeye WC/Titan Mercury WC)
65 kg – Joseph McKenna (Pennsylvania RTC/Titan Mercury WC) vs. Matthew Kolodzik (New York AC/NJRTC)
70 kg – Sam Sasso (Ohio RTC/Titan Mercury WC) vs. Alec Pantaleo (Cliff Keen WC /Titan Mercury WC)
74 kg – Vincenzo Joseph (Sunkist Kids WC) vs. Keegan O’Toole (Tiger Style WC)
79 kg – Alex Dieringer (Cliff Keen WC/Titan Mercury WC) vs. David McFadden (Pennsylvania RTC/Titan Mercury WC)
92 kg – Kollin Moore (Ohio RTC/Titan Mercury WC) vs. Nathan Jackson (New York AC/NJRTC)
 

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3rd place matches as of 1:19 today
92kg Moore Beats Jackson 11-8
79kg Ringer beats McFadden 2-2 on criteria
70kg Sasso TF Pantaleo 10-0
65kg McKenna TF Kolodzik 10-0
61kb Fix over DeSanto 9-0

57kg both Suriano and Camacho forfeited
74kg O'Toole over Cenzo, forfeit

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Heading to Cleveland tonight for the Cleveland Houston BB game, company suite so you can't turn it down. Will try to update other results this afternoon but then have to bug out.
 
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Are the True 3rd matchups best of 3? Sad to see Cenzo forfeit that was going to be an interesting match!
 

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Gilman loses the first one 3-4. Richards had what I would call counters to Thomas initiation of the action. Also Richards defended push outs well by going to his knees.
 
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Zain cruises. Berger scores first then it is all Train. Berger shoots poorly and head butts ZR at the end and Zain is bleeding all over the place with 16 sec left........Pro Wrestling style. Zain is hot like I have NEVER seen him. Even as his hand is raised, he is jawing at Berger.
 

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Zain cruises. Berger scores first then it is all Train. Berger shoots poorly and head butts ZR at the end and Zain is bleeding all over the place with 16 sec left........Pro Wrestling style. Zain is hot like I have NEVER seen him. Even as his hand is raised, he is jawing at Berger.

 
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