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Madison Keyes upset in round one, and Medvedev too - crazy scene last night as a cameraman walked into the court causing a delay and replay of first serve for Medvedev’s opponent Bonzi. This is why the U.S. Open is great - like Vegas, it gets really good after dark…

 

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Madison Keyes upset in round one, and Medvedev too - crazy scene last night as a cameraman walked into the court causing a delay and replay of first serve for Medvedev’s opponent Bonzi. This is why the U.S. Open is great - like Vegas, it gets really good after dark…


Watching the Medvedev/Bonzi match live was amazing. I turned it off after the 4th set and was shocked Bonzi cam back--good for him to fight back

Surprisingly Venus has played decently tonight especially given her age and lack of matches recently
 
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Medvedev can be such a clown. I was so happy that Bonzi was able to pull it off last night. 5th set got really interesting as Bonzi was cramping a bit in the legs and struggled getting anything into his serve, while Medvedev's hand started cramping.

I expect Medvedev to get a very stiff fine for his behavior...I'd love to see a suspension accompany it, but doubtful that they'll go that far.
 

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Wow, Medvedev pulverized that racket! Never said anything like that.

New mixed double format is lame. Throw in some real doubles players like Pavic, Mahut, Siniakova and then it might be interesting.

Venus played well against a tough opponent last night. Muchova's pinpoint serving was too much for her.

Looking forward to seeing Jensen Brooksby play. He looks awkward out there, more like any NBA forward, but he gets the job done!
 

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Wow, Medvedev pulverized that racket! Never said anything like that.

New mixed double format is lame. Throw in some real doubles players like Pavic, Mahut, Siniakova and then it might be interesting.

Venus played well against a tough opponent last night. Muchova's pinpoint serving was too much for her.

Looking forward to seeing Jensen Brooksby play. He looks awkward out there, more like any NBA forward, but he gets the job done!
Errani and Vavassori winning mixed made me happy though. Same with Collins and Harrison doing well. It wasn't just the best singles players dominating.
 
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KingLando

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Gauff battled tonight. I get her frustration since winning the French but the timing of firing your coach less than a week before a major was...interesting.
 
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Errani and Vavassori winning mixed made me happy though. Same with Collins and Harrison doing well. It wasn't just the best singles players dominating.
I get why they did it...more exposure, people actually watched and cared about mixed doubles, etc. But it does suck for those doubles specialists that were shut out. If they're heading in the same direction again next year, I'd love for them to go to 32 teams, and base 16 of them on doubles rankings, and 16 on singles rankings. That's the best of both worlds, and could just add one more day to the tournament (while both getting the exposure of the top players, and not shutting the door on the doubles specialists).

It was a very profitable two days for me though, so probably shouldn't try to change anything (though the odds will catch up more next year I'd imagine).
 

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Some fireworks at the end of the Ostapenko vs Townsend match. Sound like Ostapenko was pissed that Townsend didn't apologize about a let cord that occurred. They were seen in heated exchange at Osty's bench after the match and then Townsend whooping it up to get the crowk booing her. Ostapenko being a sore loser.

 
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Some fireworks at the end of the Ostapenko vs Townsend match. Sound like Ostapenko was pissed that Townsend didn't apologize about a let cord that occurred. They were seen in heated exchange at Osty's bench after the match and then Townsend whooping it up to get the crowk booing her. Ostapenko being a sore loser.


If she lost a tight 3 set match I could somewhat understand but...
 

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The I've seen about the Townsend/Ostapenko fight the more I think it's just that people, including Taylor, dislike Ostapenko. She's always been a bad loser and, yes, she's right that it's an unwritten rule to acknowledge a let cord (Sabalenka was angry with Anisimova about that during Wimbledon) but she overreacted.
 
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Midnighter

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The I've seen about the Townsend/Ostapenko fight the more I think it's just that people, including Taylor, dislike Ostapenko. She's always been a bad loser and, yes, she's right that it's an unwritten rule to acknowledge a let cord (Sabalenka was angry with Anisimova about that during Wimbledon) but she overreacted.

Her *apology* left a lot to be desired too....

 
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KingLando

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This Vekic/Gauff match is just...horrific
Gauff's been near tears (if not in tears) multiple times in the first set. Just stop trying to completely change your serve during the major and worry about it the next 4 months leading up to the Australian Open
Vekic might be hurt but her serve is as bad if not worse.
Gauff might get lucky--if she wins the tiebreaker Vekic might retire.
 

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Shelton getting medical attention (which doesn't look good) as Tiafoe drops the first set...not great.
 

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Shelton getting medical attention (which doesn't look good) as Tiafoe drops the first set...not great.
Tiafoe now in a world of trouble.
Tough situation for Shelton. He had a great draw. Alcaraz now likely walks to the semis
I want another Alcaraz/Sinner final though--they're significantly better than everyone else right now
Still rooting for Pegula and Gauff but I'd be thrilled with Sabalenko/Swiatek as well
 

Midnighter

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As an aside - I can’t remember any previous Open’s with this much nonsense. Tsitsipas complaining (and targeting his opponent) about an underhand serve, Ostapenko crying about Towsend not apologizing for a let ball (that she was able to play), and bonkers questions during the after match pressers.

And Tiafoe just lost after mounting a bit of a comeback. Ah well.
 

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As an aside - I can’t remember any previous Open’s with this much nonsense. Tsitsipas complaining (and targeting his opponent) about an underhand serve, Ostapenko crying about Towsend not apologizing for a let ball (that she was able to play), and bonkers questions during the after match pressers.

And Tiafoe just lost after mounting a bit of a comeback. Ah well.
Honestly I more I watched the Townsend argument with Ostapenko the less I understand why Taylor did what she did. Why follow Ostapenko to her chair? Just ignore her or give her a meaningless sorry and walk away. I mean, Ostapenko wasn't wrong. It is an unwritten rule to simply acknowledge the let cord. Ostapenko (and Tsitsipas) overreacted but they weren't necessarily wrong...just petty.

I do think Ostapenko would have done the same thing even if she won the match lol. You could tell after the point Ostapenko was livid.
 

Midnighter

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Honestly I more I watched the Townsend argument with Ostapenko the less I understand why Taylor did what she did. Why follow Ostapenko to her chair? Just ignore her or give her a meaningless sorry and walk away. I mean, Ostapenko wasn't wrong. It is an unwritten rule to simply acknowledge the let cord. Ostapenko (and Tsitsipas) overreacted but they weren't necessarily wrong...just petty.

I do think Ostapenko would have done the same thing even if she won the match lol. You could tell after the point Ostapenko was livid.

Disagree about Ostapenko - it wasn’t a let ball winner; she was able to play it but lost the point. You don’t apologize for that kind of let. And you don’t call someone uneducated after the match because you lost. Tsitsipas is a legendary whiner so not surprising, but still. Lose with dignity.
 
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KingLando

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Disagree about Ostapenko - it wasn’t a let ball winner; she was able to play it but lost the point. You don’t apologize for that kind of let. And you don’t call someone uneducated after the match because you lost. Tsitsipas is a legendary whiner so not surprising, but still. Lose with dignity.
Remember that Ostapenko's first language isn't English. I'm 100% confident by uneducated she meant "unaware of the unwritten rule". It's not like Ostapenko has a degree or anything. I'm not saying Ostapenko isn't also wrong--I just think Townsend following her to her chair was a mistake. Townsend handled it great after the incident though. Tough match for her tonight but I hope she plays well against Andreeva.

And I do agree Tsitsipas and Ostapenko are both far from classy on the court so either criticizing others is a poor decision.

Americans really need Fritz to pull through tonight.
 

Midnighter

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Remember that Ostapenko's first language isn't English. I'm 100% confident by uneducated she meant "unaware of the unwritten rule". It's not like Ostapenko has a degree or anything. I'm not saying Ostapenko isn't also wrong--I just think Townsend following her to her chair was a mistake. Townsend handled it great after the incident though. Tough match for her tonight but I hope she plays well against Andreeva.

And I do agree Tsitsipas and Ostapenko are both far from classy on the court so either criticizing others is a poor decision.

Americans really need Fritz to pull through tonight.

How many shots of Morgan Riddle will we get with Fritz playing?


 
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American men's tennis is officially dead. It's been 22 years and I can't see an answer in sight. This is just so depressing. These guys have all rolled over and died on their own home soil. Sad and embarrassing. I'm sick and tired of the excuses. At this point I have heard more than a dozen of them, from tennis being too expensive, to the balls being softer, to the courts being slower, to the rest of the world pumping more money into developing players, and it's all ********.

Why? Because the American women are alive, and well, and still winning majors like Coco did in Paris, even after the Williams sisters are gone

There are no excuses left for these guys. They suck.
 

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American men's tennis is officially dead. It's been 22 years and I can't see an answer in sight. This is just so depressing. These guys have all rolled over and died on their own home soil. Sad and embarrassing. I'm sick and tired of the excuses. At this point I have heard more than a dozen of them, from tennis being too expensive, to the balls being softer, to the courts being slower, to the rest of the world pumping more money into developing players, and it's all ********.

Why? Because the American women are alive, and well, and still winning majors like Coco did in Paris, even after the Williams sisters are gone

There are no excuses left for these guys. They suck.
5 men have pretty much dominated tennis during that time period maybe throw in Murray and Stan.

I think Shelton can win. He and Fritz are in the discussion for the 3rd best in the world. But Alcaraz and Sinner might wim the next 20 so who knows. It's definitely been a frustrating two decades.
 
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American men's tennis is officially dead. It's been 22 years and I can't see an answer in sight. This is just so depressing. These guys have all rolled over and died on their own home soil. Sad and embarrassing. I'm sick and tired of the excuses. At this point I have heard more than a dozen of them, from tennis being too expensive, to the balls being softer, to the courts being slower, to the rest of the world pumping more money into developing players, and it's all ********.

Why? Because the American women are alive, and well, and still winning majors like Coco did in Paris, even after the Williams sisters are gone

There are no excuses left for these guys. They suck.
We've got 6 guys in the top 32 right now. We don't have that dominant player, but we've got a deeper "pool" right now than we've had in a while...far from "officially dead".
 

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We've got 6 guys in the top 32 right now. We don't have that dominant player, but we've got a deeper "pool" right now than we've had in a while...far from "officially dead"
It's the same thing as years ago, none of them can win on the big stage. Mcenroe was asked point blank which one of them can win a major, his response was basically none of them, but he did say that IF anyone could it would be Shelton. Shelton looked bad today but maybe that was the injury, I don't know. All I know is that 22 years is a long enough time that there's no more excuses left.
 

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It's the same thing as years ago, none of them can win on the big stage. Mcenroe was asked point blank which one of them can win a major, his response was basically none of them, but he did say that IF anyone could it would be Shelton. Shelton looked bad today but maybe that was the injury, I don't know. All I know is that 22 years is a long enough time that there's no more excuses left.
In the past 4 majors, we've had a finalist and 3 semi-finalists. It's an overreaction to say that none of them "can win on the big stage" or that none of them could win a major.
 

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As a tennis fan, I watch and love the level of play. I don’t particularly care which country they’re from. I love the way Alcaraz plays the game. Couldn’t care less that he’s from Spain.
My rooting interest is pretty much 100% American-based (outside a handful of fringe guys from elsewhere). I'll watch anyone play, but don't care too much who wins unless an American is involved.
 

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When Townsend is playing well, she is so much fun to watch…a really unique player.
She was impressive. Andreeva is someone I think can win multiple majors so huge win. I like her chances of getting to the QFs. That quarter has 3 Americans.

Fritz saved the American men for now. Hard to judge Shelton's loss because of the injury but Taylor's the most consistent IMO
 

KingLando

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Fritz is the only American man that made it to the 4th round. Not exactly a good showing. The women are well represented.
 

Midnighter

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She was impressive. Andreeva is someone I think can win multiple majors so huge win. I like her chances of getting to the QFs. That quarter has 3 Americans.

Fritz saved the American men for now. Hard to judge Shelton's loss because of the injury but Taylor's the most consistent IMO

Fritz will never win anything IMO. He’s the Todd Martin of this generation.
 

KingLando

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Not a good day of tennis--only the Muchova/Kostyuk match was competitive.
Gauff got destroyed--I understand her desire to make the coaching change and alter her mechanics but it's not the time a week before a major.
 

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I guess the hat snatching CEO loser, who grabbed a players hat as a souvenir away from a little boy, has given the boy the hat. He can give his half-hearted apology all he wants but damage done.

 
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