A friend wrote this. Whatcha think?

EPC FAN

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For my college-football-playoffs-watching friends – and anyone else that thinks the transfer portal and NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) payments are “changing college football.” A few thoughts to consider…

“CHANGING THE GAME”
Nonsense. The only thing that has "changed the game” in recent years is the absurd notion that even incidental contact with your helmet against another player’s helmet constitutes a personal foul and should result in immediate ejection. (I know that’s not the letter of the rule. But it definitely IS the way it’s been implemented on the field.)

NIL
It now – finally -- gives scholarship athletes the same rights that every other scholarship student has. If a scholarship student in Computer Science writes a piece of code with commercial value, there’s no reason she can’t sell it to Bill Gates or even start her own software company – and still keep her scholarship, if she wants. Same goes for a scholarship student in the Music department. Why can’t he get paid to write a jingle for a local car dealership, without fear of some quasi legal entitly (looking at you, NCAA) banishing him from future collegiate benefits?

Yeah, I know …”If you’re getting a free tuition, room and board, you are getting paid.” Correct. You’re getting paid to put your athletic talents to work on the field, court, mat or whatever. But you’re not getting paid for the money the school receives when they sell -- ‘scuse me, I mean “license” -- your name, image and/or likeness to EA Sports, or even when they sell merch with your picture on it. They have a right to charge people to see you participate in the sport, and to eat a hot dog while doing so. Any money they make beyond that should be at least partially shared with the athlete.

PORTAL
Definitely puts more pressure on coaches to maintain roster depth and continuity in the program. But I think it’ll also force coaches to get better at the actual “coaching” part of their job. No longer will recruiting be the No. 1 skill necessary for success. Coaches will also have to excel at teaching and motivating -- at building players instead of just picking them. If they lose some starters to the portal and can’t replace them with players of equal talent, they’ll have to turn some of their backups into stars – “coach them up,” as the saying goes.

That’s not to suggest coaches devalue teaching and motivating. It just means they won’t have the luxury of expecting top players to stay in the program for their whole career behind another player who simply graded out a point or two better on film.
 

bdgan

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For my college-football-playoffs-watching friends – and anyone else that thinks the transfer portal and NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) payments are “changing college football.” A few thoughts to consider…

“CHANGING THE GAME”
Nonsense. The only thing that has "changed the game” in recent years is the absurd notion that even incidental contact with your helmet against another player’s helmet constitutes a personal foul and should result in immediate ejection. (I know that’s not the letter of the rule. But it definitely IS the way it’s been implemented on the field.)

NIL
It now – finally -- gives scholarship athletes the same rights that every other scholarship student has. If a scholarship student in Computer Science writes a piece of code with commercial value, there’s no reason she can’t sell it to Bill Gates or even start her own software company – and still keep her scholarship, if she wants. Same goes for a scholarship student in the Music department. Why can’t he get paid to write a jingle for a local car dealership, without fear of some quasi legal entitly (looking at you, NCAA) banishing him from future collegiate benefits?

Yeah, I know …”If you’re getting a free tuition, room and board, you are getting paid.” Correct. You’re getting paid to put your athletic talents to work on the field, court, mat or whatever. But you’re not getting paid for the money the school receives when they sell -- ‘scuse me, I mean “license” -- your name, image and/or likeness to EA Sports, or even when they sell merch with your picture on it. They have a right to charge people to see you participate in the sport, and to eat a hot dog while doing so. Any money they make beyond that should be at least partially shared with the athlete.

PORTAL
Definitely puts more pressure on coaches to maintain roster depth and continuity in the program. But I think it’ll also force coaches to get better at the actual “coaching” part of their job. No longer will recruiting be the No. 1 skill necessary for success. Coaches will also have to excel at teaching and motivating -- at building players instead of just picking them. If they lose some starters to the portal and can’t replace them with players of equal talent, they’ll have to turn some of their backups into stars – “coach them up,” as the saying goes.

That’s not to suggest coaches devalue teaching and motivating. It just means they won’t have the luxury of expecting top players to stay in the program for their whole career behind another player who simply graded out a point or two better on film.
Players aren't doing anything like writing code that has commercial value. The money is pay to play with a minor inconvenience of having to attend a meet and greet.

NIL also make a mockery of "student" athletes. Very few "regular" students can transfer 3 times and maintain progress towards a degree.

Professional players are allowed to make additional money doing things like commercials but they aren't allowed to switch teams year after year or opt out from playing. They're bound by a contract.
 

psuro

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For my college-football-playoffs-watching friends – and anyone else that thinks the transfer portal and NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) payments are “changing college football.” A few thoughts to consider…

“CHANGING THE GAME”
Nonsense. The only thing that has "changed the game” in recent years is the absurd notion that even incidental contact with your helmet against another player’s helmet constitutes a personal foul and should result in immediate ejection. (I know that’s not the letter of the rule. But it definitely IS the way it’s been implemented on the field.)

NIL
It now – finally -- gives scholarship athletes the same rights that every other scholarship student has. If a scholarship student in Computer Science writes a piece of code with commercial value, there’s no reason she can’t sell it to Bill Gates or even start her own software company – and still keep her scholarship, if she wants. Same goes for a scholarship student in the Music department. Why can’t he get paid to write a jingle for a local car dealership, without fear of some quasi legal entitly (looking at you, NCAA) banishing him from future collegiate benefits?

Yeah, I know …”If you’re getting a free tuition, room and board, you are getting paid.” Correct. You’re getting paid to put your athletic talents to work on the field, court, mat or whatever. But you’re not getting paid for the money the school receives when they sell -- ‘scuse me, I mean “license” -- your name, image and/or likeness to EA Sports, or even when they sell merch with your picture on it. They have a right to charge people to see you participate in the sport, and to eat a hot dog while doing so. Any money they make beyond that should be at least partially shared with the athlete.

PORTAL
Definitely puts more pressure on coaches to maintain roster depth and continuity in the program. But I think it’ll also force coaches to get better at the actual “coaching” part of their job. No longer will recruiting be the No. 1 skill necessary for success. Coaches will also have to excel at teaching and motivating -- at building players instead of just picking them. If they lose some starters to the portal and can’t replace them with players of equal talent, they’ll have to turn some of their backups into stars – “coach them up,” as the saying goes.

That’s not to suggest coaches devalue teaching and motivating. It just means they won’t have the luxury of expecting top players to stay in the program for their whole career behind another player who simply graded out a point or two better on film.
I am not sure I am entirely in agreement that a student in Comp Sci writes a piece of code using University materials and equipment,and sells it gets the revenue. There are some stipulations that anything of commercial value that is created by a student or faculty (perhaps staff) utilizing University materials and equipment, belongs to the University. I believe it falls under Intellectual property.
 

kgilbert78

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I'll also note that while a player gives value to the brand of the university, as the writer noted, the reverse is also true. No one is getting a million dollars playing for Bucknell.
 
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NoSoup4U

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Might have to disagree with the "student" scenario doing something of value

1) Probably 99.9 % chance that student isn't transferring to another school to get more money for their output
a) they chose their original school for reason
i)most likely because the school offers them a chance to excel what they are producing EG Julliard for musicians ?
ii)chose the school for its exact prestige and wants to benefit from and add to that prestige
iii) we are talking elite level students right???? just like ..."elite cough cough level" athletes
*School is the primary focus of college no? these elite level students are there for that reason alone.. Are "athletes there for that?

2) Actual numbers of students actually producing that intellectual property worth of equal value compared to the number of athletes getting NIL
a) who are the they? and how many?
b) bet its less than .1%
c) obviously transfers do happen at the creme del la creme schools but are they students also shopping their productivity wares?


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