A little Vandy preview

DawgatAuburn

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Tomorrow night (TUESDAY) is a huge game for us. My hope is to tread water at a minimum for the first month of the SEC schedule and be no worse than 4-4 after the first eight. Given that those first eight games include Tennessee, Auburn, Ole Miss, Kentucky and Alabama.....well Vandy is probably more winnable than all of those. So getting this one is important in that regard. It's winnable for sure, but going up there is seemingly always challenging.

Vandy's schedule has been atrocious. Their SOS is 338 at KenPom and 265 at BPI (non-con). Their best win according to the NET was Saturday's win in Baton Rouge. That's a quad 1 win for now but barely. After that, there are neutral court wins over TCU and Nevada and then a bunch of Q3 and Q4 wins to run up the win total. For comparison, we are 3-0 in Q1 and 2-1 in Q2. Our SOS numbers are 128 at KenPom and 43 at BPI. For them, we will be the best team they have played. For us, this is sort of in line with playing Memphis or SMU.

While the competition levels have been different, the outcomes and the statistical results have been very, very similar. In short, their numbers are a little better offensively, ours are a little better defensively. We rebound it a little better that them, they are better than us from the FT line (getting there more and making more). Otherwise, not just a lot of differences in the numbers, it's just that we have done it against much better competition than they have. (Did you ever think we would face off with Vandy and be the team with the higher 3 point shooting percentage?)

We should be able to dominate them in the paint though, because according to their roster, all they have is point guards.

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(The new coach made them list it this way in the preseason and it's still listed this way on their website.)

Players to watch:
They will probably play 9 guys. Four average double figures.
Jason Edwards, 6-1 guard, 18.3 ppg; transfer from North Texas; we saw him last year when he had 11 points in Tupelo; shooting it well and getting to the line a lot
Devin McGlockton - transfer from BC; leading rebounder and second leading scorer
Tyler Nickel - 3 years, 3 schools; almost exclusively a 3 pt shooter
AJ Hoggard - Michigan State transfer so we saw him last year too

But there's always the building. That darn building. We are 11-49 in Nashville all time. Not sure how many of those were in Memorial but it opened in 1952 so probably most of them.

Let's be positive until there's a reason not to be. Dogs win 78-76.
 
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mstateglfr

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Ha, that roster is a lot of initiating the offense and not a lot of finishing the offense!
 

DawgatAuburn

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Games Tuesday I thought?
In my mind all midweek games are still on Wednesday nights except of course for the one game on Super Tuesday.

It's only been about a decade since it was like that.

I will edit but own my idiocy.
 

Darryl Steight

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Seeing most people already talking about Kentucky got me worried
Yes. Sets up perfectly as a classic trap game. Although I'm sure Jans sees that too and is all over them this week. Good news is it's on Tuesday, so they can go all out tomorrow with an extra day of rest before UK.
 

DawgatAuburn

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I think that a-hole 3rd string QB from South Carolina was the original RAT, but this guy is right up there all-time.
Hang on chief. The R in RAT stands for random. Shan Foster was an all conference player and is still Vandy's all time leading scorer. He had a a great night (on senior night of all things) but he was anything but random.
 

L4Dawg

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That barn up there is a tough place to play. It's just different.
 

mstateglfr

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I think that a-hole 3rd string QB from South Carolina was the original RAT, but this guy is right up there all-time.
Come on. The letter R is key to the term RAT. Go learn about Foster.



ETA- I see this has been addressed by others. Since I cant fully delete a post, I guess this can stay as a way to pile on.
 

615dawg

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The original basketball RAT was the kid from Louisiana Lafayette that made everything he threw up even when we had a finger up his nose.

It was our opener and we were preseason ranked. That kid is a high school basketball coach in Lafayette now. Shan Foster was a lottery pick in the NBA and SEC player of the year.
 

Darryl Steight

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Okay boys, no need to pile on any more. I guess I wasn't paying attention that year because I didn't expect him to score 42 on us.

And yes, I understand the concept of the RAT very well. Thanks Chief(s).
 
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In SEC play I don’t care who the team is, if it’s on the road you better come prepared to play. Forget about SOS, Vandy is a good team and this will be a hard game to win.
 

HotMop

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Shan Foster can confirm

I will never forget this gem of a game that that A-hole gave us back in '08

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Foster hit nine consecutive three-pointers (including a 22-footer and a 25-footer), all of which were contested, and unleashed a career-high 42 points on the visiting 25th-ranked Mississippi State Bulldogs, including the game-winning basket, to push then 16th-ranked Vanderbilt to an 86–85 overtime victory which gave the Commodores their first undefeated season at Memorial since the 1992–1993 season.

9 STRAIGHT!
 
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DesotoCountyDawg

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The original basketball RAT was the kid from Louisiana Lafayette that made everything he threw up even when we had a finger up his nose.

It was our opener and we were preseason ranked. That kid is a high school basketball coach in Lafayette now. Shan Foster was a lottery pick in the NBA and SEC player of the year.
Brad Boyd. I was at that game. He was nailing threes 4 feet behind the line.
 

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State is the better team, better coached, & should be a winnable game, but anything can happen in that crap gym.

Vandy can score, ave mid 80s I blv, but have not faced an elite defense like State. Hopefully the officiating won't be a factor.
 
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Perd Hapley

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The original basketball RAT was the kid from Louisiana Lafayette that made everything he threw up even when we had a finger up his nose.

It was our opener and we were preseason ranked. That kid is a high school basketball coach in Lafayette now. Shan Foster was a lottery pick in the NBA and SEC player of the year.
His name was Brad Boyd, I believe.
 

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Vandy used to have those old goal standards supported/suspended from the above rafters. Now they have normal floor-anchored goal standards like everyone else. IMO, those old standards were difficult to shoot on because of the way they looked. Vandy also has likely one of their shorter teams in height that I can remember. They are more guard/small forward oriented......with basically no center-type player and probably no real power forward. A good shooting team though. Pretty much everyone can shoot the 3 ball and they are quick to the boards on rebounding. We need to block out well and only allow them one shot at the basket.
 

HotMop

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