We also went for it vs Auburn 4th and 1 from our 40 and punted from their 40 4th and 1. I think it was also Auburn that he ran the last 3 minutes off the clock before half because he was scared to give them the ball back.Sylvester Croom decided to recruit a QB one time because he liked the way he tackled after throwing an interception.
Also in a tight game in Athens on 4th down we went for it on Georgia’s 40, got it, and then 4 plays later punted from the 30.
…..good times….
If they were forced to watch the latech and gatech losses they would sing a different tuneI know it’s just a Facebook comment, so it shouldn’t rile me up, but here is the first comment:
Remember those teams Croom had at Mississippi St? If this team with as much talent as they have had as much grit as those teams they’d be National Champions.
i think the absolute worst part about the croom era was the way the whole country poor mouthed state while saying how great croom was. It was never his fault, it was always poor little ole state’s fault that we were so bad. And he leaned into that crap too.
The narrative that he was doing everything the right way was so ridiculous. It was an excuse for running a losing program and he lapped it up.I know it’s just a Facebook comment, so it shouldn’t rile me up, but here is the first comment:
Remember those teams Croom had at Mississippi St? If this team with as much talent as they have had as much grit as those teams they’d be National Champions.
i think the absolute worst part about the croom era was the way the whole country poor mouthed state while saying how great croom was. It was never his fault, it was always poor little ole state’s fault that we were so bad. And he leaned into that crap too.
Also, roughly half of our defense from 2008 was arrested and kicked out of school before the season. He wasn't doing anything the "right way" any more than anyone else.The narrative that he was doing everything the right was was so ridiculous. It was an excuse for running a losing program and he lapped it up.
We encouraged and enabled that shlt. He probably wouldn't have let it go to his head so much had it not started from inside our own university. Talk about an athletic department with no self-esteem at all, we let people tell us that King Jackie was some sort of evil entity, and we believed it. Funny thing is, I KNEW we were hiring Clownboy Croom as soon as Jackie announced his resignation. All that Alabama crap had just went down, and LT's dubmass was there to pick up the pieces.The narrative that he was doing everything the right was was so ridiculous. It was an excuse for running a losing program and he lapped it up.
I was at the arse whooping that ole miss put on us in Oxford for what would be Croom’s last game. I was openly cheering for ole miss to run the score up. I wanted there to be no doubt what needed to happen.One thing I appreciated from Herbstreit is that when we finally fired Croom someone suggested Croom should’ve gotten another year, and Herbstreit was like “no, it was time”
Based on that guy’s comment, then clearly all they need to do is hire Croom! Let’s see how that works out for themI know it’s just a Facebook comment, so it shouldn’t rile me up, but here is the first comment:
Remember those teams Croom had at Mississippi St? If this team with as much talent as they have had as much grit as those teams they’d be National Champions.
i think the absolute worst part about the croom era was the way the whole country poor mouthed state while saying how great croom was. It was never his fault, it was always poor little ole state’s fault that we were so bad. And he leaned into that crap too.
So you were the guy with the infamous “FIRE CROOM NOW” poster?I was at the arse whooping that ole miss put on us in Oxford for what would be Croom’s last game. I was openly cheering for ole miss to run the score up. I wanted there to be no doubt what needed to happen.
Ole miss had more points than we had total yards in that game. It was the worst performance I have ever seen
No, but I did have several ole miss fans tell me that I was ruining their enjoyment of the game, so it wasn’t a total wasteSo you were the guy with the infamous “FIRE CROOM NOW” poster?
I was there too, and I told my Ole Miss friends that I was so glad they beat us that bad because it ensured no more Croom. They said that was a dumb take and that I was just saying that to avoid the pain of the lossI was at the arse whooping that ole miss put on us in Oxford for what would be Croom’s last game. I was openly cheering for ole miss to run the score up. I wanted there to be no doubt what needed to happen.
Ole miss had more points than we had total yards in that game. It was the worst performance I have ever seen
Before that game, I thought he would get another year. After the game, I was thinking he may get fired. In the post game presser, when Croom said flippantly, "I don't know what happened out there" ....... At that moment, I knew he was fired.I was at the arse whooping that ole miss put on us in Oxford for what would be Croom’s last game. I was openly cheering for ole miss to run the score up. I wanted there to be no doubt what needed to happen.
Ole miss had more points than we had total yards in that game. It was the worst performance I have ever seen
That defines the Croom era for me. Just didn’t have a clue how to coach a football team. It wasn’t even 4 th & long on the punt. Both were 4th & about 3.Also in a tight game in Athens on 4th down we went for it on Georgia’s 40, got it, and then 4 plays later punted from the 30.
He didn’t want the job, but was pressured into taking it. He never was 100% into improving MSU.We encouraged and enabled that shlt. He probably wouldn't have let it go to his head so much had it not started from inside our own university. Talk about an athletic department with no self-esteem at all, we let people tell us that King Jackie was some sort of evil entity, and we believed it. Funny thing is, I KNEW we were hiring Clownboy Croom as soon as Jackie announced his resignation. All that Alabama crap had just went down, and LT's dubmass was there to pick up the pieces.
Funny thing is, if Croom hadn't had such an ego and let all the politics go to his head, AND had understood his strengths and weaknesses, AND had been held accountable by the AD......I do sometimes wonder if he could have had success. He needed to realize that he had no real X/O strength, but he WAS strong in recruiting and motivating - very similar to Dabo or Orgeron. Had he let go - and hired a good fit at OC like he did at DC, no telling what could have been done.
Of course, we all knew he'd be a failure when we came out in those horrific uniforms. We really had to try hard to 17 up our program as much as we did from 2004-2006. Once Doc started lighting fire under his asss, recruiting did get better.
Recency bias. I dare you to go back and watch our games from Croom era. I would watch us against Texas or UGA 100's of times before I'd go back and watch the Croom show.Hutzler is more clueless than Croom.
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The total yards for passing is incorrect. It was 88. Total yards for the game was 24.
I suppose his reasoning was "you can fool them once ...."We also went for it vs Auburn 4th and 1 from our 40 and punted from their 40 4th and 1. I think it was also Auburn that he ran the last 3 minutes off the clock before half because he was scared to give them the ball back.
Hutzler can coach Croom under the table. Not even close. At least Hutzler isn’t lazyRecency bias. I dare you to go back and watch our games from Croom era. I would watch us against Texas or UGA 100's of times before I'd go back and watch the Croom show.
These young 17ers really have no idea. There is no worse coaching job than Croom, when you consider the competition, talent and opportunity.Recency bias. I dare you to go back and watch our games from Croom era. I would watch us against Texas or UGA 100's of times before I'd go back and watch the Croom show.
Everything was bad about it. even the uniforms were the worst we ever had.These young 17ers really have no idea. There is no worse coaching job than Croom, when you consider the competition, talent and opportunity.