Alabama & Michigan have early enrollees participating in bowl practices

OhioLion

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I would think they have to be enrolled in classes.
Isn’t there a poster who used to be in administration at PS and sorted this out for us?

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Tom_PSU

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Actually it’s a pretty clever way to acclimate new players and reward them for signing and enrolling early. Legal or not, who at the toothless, spineless and cowardly NCAA is going to say anything even if was a major felony.
 

psuro

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Actually it’s a pretty clever way to acclimate new players and reward them for signing and enrolling early. Legal or not, who at the toothless, spineless and cowardly NCAA is going to say anything even if was a major felony.
NCAA - dead!
Emmert - dead!
Niedermeyer - dead!

 

Tchains23

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It’s a new bylaw, 14.2.1.1. Seems a few schools have taken advantage of the new bylaw and have early enrollees participating in practice but have not seen anything on PSU.

14.2.1.1 Practice Prior to Initial Enrollment. A student-athlete may practice during the official vacation period immediately preceding initial enrollment, provided the student has been accepted by the institution for enrollment in a regular, full-time program of studies at the time of the individual's initial participation; is no longer enrolled in the previous educational institution; and is eligible under all institutional and NCAA requirements.

 

marshall23

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I hate to be so cynical but.... how long before one of these kids realizes the team's depth is really good and his dream of playing early are not going to materialize, and hits the portal before classes begin in January?
Anything is possible. What is probable is that it will happen at PSU first.
 

GrimReaper

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I hate to be so cynical but.... how long before one of these kids realizes the team's depth is really good and his dream of playing early are not going to materialize, and hits the portal before classes begin in January?
Can't hit the portal until enrolled. Can request release from LOI, which is an entirely different kettle of fish, and coaches might accomodate given the opportunity to see the player up close and personal. Consider it to be a live-fire tryout.
 

psuno1

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I hate to be so cynical but.... how long before one of these kids realizes the team's depth is really good and his dream of playing early are not going to materialize, and hits the portal before classes begin in January?
Not long
 

blion72

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It’s a new bylaw, 14.2.1.1. Seems a few schools have taken advantage of the new bylaw and have early enrollees participating in practice but have not seen anything on PSU.

14.2.1.1 Practice Prior to Initial Enrollment. A student-athlete may practice during the official vacation period immediately preceding initial enrollment, provided the student has been accepted by the institution for enrollment in a regular, full-time program of studies at the time of the individual's initial participation; is no longer enrolled in the previous educational institution; and is eligible under all institutional and NCAA requirements.

I saw this and still cannot see how this bylaw ever got passed. a HS athlete who has signed LOI is not enrolled as a student and has no legal attachment to the school yet. what happens if the player gets seriously injured, and needs significant medical care? also, since they are not enrolled, where do they live? does Penn State let students who start classes in January enter dorms in December? why would this bylaw even be created? not sure what problem it was meant to solve.

they also have to have completed HS graduation under this bylaw. the HS in our area graduated their early seniors on December 18th and official results available Dec 22.
 
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GrimReaper

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I saw this and still cannot see how this bylaw ever got passed. a HS athlete who has signed LOI is not enrolled as a student and has no legal attachment to the school yet. what happens if the player gets seriously injured, and needs significant medical care? also, since they are not enrolled, where do they live? does Penn State let students who start classes in January enter dorms in December? why would this bylaw even be created? not sure what problem it was meant to solve.

they also have to have completed HS graduation under this bylaw. the HS in our area graduated their early seniors on December 18th and official results available Dec 22.
Those issues are for the schools to address. NCAA isn't taking a position, other than its normal one.

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ChandlerPearce

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marshall23

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How much player development is happening in the final 5-7 practices before a bowl game? I don't see much of an advantage.
 

ChandlerPearce

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I saw this and still cannot see how this bylaw ever got passed. a HS athlete who has signed LOI is not enrolled as a student and has no legal attachment to the school yet. what happens if the player gets seriously injured, and needs significant medical care? also, since they are not enrolled, where do they live? does Penn State let students who start classes in January enter dorms in December? why would this bylaw even be created? not sure what problem it was meant to solve.

they also have to have completed HS graduation under this bylaw. the HS in our area graduated their early seniors on December 18th and official results available Dec 22.
Seems some schools are more aggressive/committed to everything possible for training/coaching
 
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