Alarming quote from Rattler: "Not that concerning" that the offense couldn't execute

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He seems checked out. Answers just sound flat, like he's resigned to failure. This one sticks out like a sore thumb:

How concerning is it that you guys knew what they were going to do and didn’t execute?

“We probably would have done a few things a little differently. It’s not that concerning.”

 
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A couple weeks ago our starting QB said they came into the game not really know what to do.

Now he says isn't not that concerning that the offense couldn't execute against the 115th ranked defense in the country.

Something is bad wrong with this team.
 

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A couple weeks ago our starting QB said they came into the game not really know what to do.

Now he says isn't not that concerning that the offense couldn't execute against the 115th ranked defense in the country.

Something is bad wrong with this team.
Don't mean to split hairs but, Florida came into the game with the 116th ranked Total Defense. So, it's worse than you think.
 

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I don't mean to knock the kid really but for the first time that I can ever recall - I'll be happy to see a player gone. Either by declaring for the draft (he'll go undrafted) / or by simply transferring again. The last thing in the world I want to see is Rattler on this team again next year.

I truly do wish him the best personally, but on the other hand > it is what it is. I stand by my words. He ain't no QB, nor leader. On a positive note, he's not a Johnny football mental basket case either and he seems to keep his head on straight and stay out of trouble but .....yeah, I'll be glad when he's gone. Not so much because of him but rather > It will *FORCE* our Coaching staff to use a different QB next season. I'm now officially an ABR'r.....Anybody But Rattler.

Anybody wanna bring up the OL: STOP / Talk to the hand.
 

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I don't mean to knock the kid really but for the first time that I can ever recall - I'll be happy to see a player gone. Either by declaring for the draft (he'll go undrafted) / or by simply transferring again. The last thing in the world I want to see is Rattler on this team again next year.

I truly do wish him the best personally, but on the other hand > it is what it is. I stand by my words. He ain't no QB, nor leader. On a positive note, he's not a Johnny football mental basket case either and he seems to keep his head on straight and stay out of trouble but .....yeah, I'll be glad when he's gone. Not so much because of him but rather > It will *FORCE* our Coaching staff to use a different QB next season. I'm now officially an ABR'r.....Anybody But Rattler.

Anybody wanna bring up the OL: STOP / Talk to the hand.

The thing that remains perplexing to me is that they brought in a quarterback who does not have the skill set to run the kind of offense that they are hell-bent on running.

In most of our games earlier in the season the commentators noted that we were running an offense that was not suited to Rattler.
 

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Anyone who blames Rattler is an idiot. There is a man who is charged with & paid handsomely for creating an offense, teaching it to the assistant coaches & having them teach it to the players. Then this man is to oversee the coaching of the offense to the players & developing game plans each week that can lead to enough offensive success to win each week. That man is a massive failure. He also happens to be Rattler’s position coach. Rattler is a product of our failed OC.
 

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Anyone who blames Rattler is an idiot. There is a man who is charged with & paid handsomely for creating an offense, teaching it to the assistant coaches & having them teach it to the players. Then this man is to oversee the coaching of the offense to the players & developing game plans each week that can lead to enough offensive success to win each week. That man is a massive failure. He also happens to be Rattler’s position coach. Rattler is a product of our failed OC.
Sorry man but comparing Rattler to a normal QB is like comparing a little person to Andre the Giant. ---- He ain't no QB. We have 2 more wins with an even halfway decent QB.
 
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Don't mean to split hairs but, Florida came into the game with the 116th ranked Total Defense. So, it's worse than you think.
I love those type of statistics. Makes me wonder if the 115 teams ranked above Florida played Georgia, Utah, Tennessee etc. you get my point. Those statics are really misleading. Florida does not play in the ACC.
 
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Anyone who blames Rattler is an idiot. There is a man who is charged with & paid handsomely for creating an offense, teaching it to the assistant coaches & having them teach it to the players. Then this man is to oversee the coaching of the offense to the players & developing game plans each week that can lead to enough offensive success to win each week. That man is a massive failure. He also happens to be Rattler’s position coach. Rattler is a product of our failed OC.

That seems almost impossible to evaluate when no other QB on the roster is getting meaningful reps in a game. IMO, it looks like a combination platter - inconsistent OL and playcalling coupled with a QB who doesn't seem to do well with a messy pocket and wildly random running game.

Unless we break back into the Top 10 in recruiting, we're likely never going to have layers of OL talent which absorbs injuries, etc.
 
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That seems almost impossible to evaluate when no other QB on the roster is getting meaningful reps in a game. IMO, it looks like a combination platter - inconsistent OL and playcalling coupled with a QB who doesn't seem to do well with a messy pocket and wildly random running game.

Unless we break back into the Top 10 in recruiting, we're likely never going to have layers of OL talent which absorbs injuries, etc.
Spoken like a true t-shirt fan whose first instinct is to blame the QB.

Rattler is worse now than at any time during his Oklahoma tenure. Who is his position coach? Who designed the offense? Who is sending in the plays? Who designed the protection schemes?
 

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The thing that remains perplexing to me is that they brought in a quarterback who does not have the skill set to run the kind of offense that they are hell-bent on running.

In most of our games earlier in the season the commentators noted that we were running an offense that was not suited to Rattler.
Truth here. Absent a real offensive commitment in terms of what we want to do, I think Beamer is starting to reflect a "whatever works approach", which is a recipe for disaster offensively.
 

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Spoken like a true t-shirt fan whose first instinct is to blame the QB.

Rattler is worse now than at any time during his Oklahoma tenure. Who is his position coach? Who designed the offense? Who is sending in the plays? Who designed the protection schemes?

Actually coming from a guy who played two years of college football.

Now you're comparing OU talent to ours though. I'm with you that Satterfield is a big issue. However, Rattler is totally indecisive and seems to shy from contact. Both things can be true and you're not going to win at USC with that package in today's game. Start recruiting consistent Top 10 talent and it's a totally different conversation.
 

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Truth is Satterfield set the table, but Rattler spilled the soup. Rattler has done nothing to help. Like a Connor Shaw when a play broke down he would make something happen on his own!
 

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Actually coming from a guy who played two years of college football.

Now you're comparing OU talent to ours though. I'm with you that Satterfield is a big issue. However, Rattler is totally indecisive and seems to shy from contact. Both things can be true and you're not going to win at USC with that package in today's game. Start recruiting consistent Top 10 talent and it's a totally different conversation.
Know why he’s indecisive? If you played you should know.
 
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I love those type of statistics. Makes me wonder if the 115 teams ranked above Florida played Georgia, Utah, Tennessee etc. you get my point. Those statics are really misleading. Florida does not play in the ACC.
Did you also wonder where Florida's defense ranked, at the time, in the SEC? (Spoiler Alert: poorly).
 

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IMO, he doesn't have time for his receivers to get open, then again he holds the ball way too long most of the time! It's obvious he doesn't want to run the ball, if he used his running skills it would open up so much in the offense, but I guess he would rather take a sack, unless Sat has told him to stay in the pocket no matter what! Well, guess what, there is no pocket!

Really makes you respect Stetson Bennett, look at that guy, 6' nothing 100 nothing, they tried to give that job to everybody over him, benched him, trashed him on the web, but he just sloughed it off and makes plays, with his feet as well! Some got it some don't!
 
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I've watched the games on SkyCam when available. IMO, it's resembles a mixed bag of issues that looks alot like what we saw under Muschamp and his various OCs.
It’s pretty much the same mantra in all of athletics….the less you have to think, the faster you play & your decisions come quicker. Rattler is having to think WAY too much. Easy to see. This is the quickest way to make a player indecisive. The OL has the same exact problem. Having to think & audibilize WAY too much.
 

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IMO, he doesn't have time for his receivers to get open, then again he holds the ball way too long most of the time! It's obvious he doesn't want to run the ball, if he used his running skills it would open up so much in the offense, but I guess he would rather take a sack, unless Sat has told him to stay in the pocket no matter what! Well, guess what, there is no pocket! Really makes you respect Stetson Bennett, look at that guy, 6' nothing 100 nothing, they tried to give that job to everybody over him, benched him, trashed him on the web, but he just sloughed it off and makes plays, with his feet as well!

Agree. It's a domino effect if you can't run the ball with any consistency. USC needs a durable, confident pass/run QB unless they start recruiting with the top teams. We also need a low-ego OC who can adapt when things aren't going as planned in a game. Too much DL talent in the SEC to deal with otherwise.
 
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Anyone who blames Rattler is an idiot. There is a man who is charged with & paid handsomely for creating an offense, teaching it to the assistant coaches & having them teach it to the players. Then this man is to oversee the coaching of the offense to the players & developing game plans each week that can lead to enough offensive success to win each week. That man is a massive failure. He also happens to be Rattler’s position coach. Rattler is a product of our failed OC.
Agree, Satt is the primary problem and needs to go. The offensive plan Rattler is working under is like asking him to sell oil changes to Tesla owners.
However, we do need him to be a playmaker! Given the opportunity, Joyner has done just that. And I know Joyner is not the answer to full time QB, but Rattler is a disappointment given all the hype.
 

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Agree, Satt is the primary problem and needs to go. The offensive plan Rattler is working under is like asking him to sell oil changes to Tesla owners.
However, we do need him to be a playmaker! Given the opportunity, Joyner has done just that. And I know Joyner is not the answer to full time QB, but Rattler is a disappointment given all the hype.
He needs to be given simple protection & route concepts & let him sling it 50 times in a game. See how it works out. I’m convinced the guy can play QB at a high level, but he’s thinking too much.
 

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He needs to be given simple protection & route concepts & let him sling it 50 times in a game. See how it works out. I’m convinced the guy can play QB at a high level, but he’s thinking too much.
You are right and we should have done that against FL. Instead of running Bell between the tackles he should have been running pass routes with Rattler slinging it and the result probably would have been better. Bell, Vann, Joyner, Wells, Brooks, Brown, Legette, Stogner, etc., - we have good receivers. Plan some routes, keep the backs in to help with blocking and throw it to them - with Lloyd out we have no run game.
 

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You are right and we should have done that against FL. Instead of running Bell between the tackles he should have been running pass routes with Rattler slinging it and the result probably would have been better. Bell, Vann, Joyner, Wells, Brooks, Brown, Legette, Stogner, etc., - we have good receivers. Plan some routes, keep the backs in to help with blocking and throw it to them - with Lloyd out we have no run game.
Yep. Satterfield is either an idiot or a pompous *** that knows his time is limited & he’s purposefully sticking it to us.
 

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Spoken like a true t-shirt fan whose first instinct is to blame the QB.

Rattler is worse now than at any time during his Oklahoma tenure. Who is his position coach? Who designed the offense? Who is sending in the plays? Who designed the protection schemes?
He’s worse because he came here to practice in an nfl system. He can’t do it and the OC sucks. How can anyone not see this??????
 

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Yep. Satterfield is either an idiot or a pompous *** that knows his time is limited & he’s purposefully sticking it to us.
You are right and we should have done that against FL. Instead of running Bell between the tackles he should have been running pass routes with Rattler slinging it and the result probably would have been better. Bell, Vann, Joyner, Wells, Brooks, Brown, Legette, Stogner, etc., - we have good receivers. Plan some routes, keep the backs in to help with blocking and throw it to them - with Lloyd out we have no run game.

Ummmm..... guys, we did throw it --- how many fumbles did the WR's have again??? <smh> Never mind actual reality though. Seems like the only thing all 3 of us do agree on is the OC sucks for sure and needs to be shown the door.