Aliyah Boston responds to ESPY snub

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With all due respect to Aliyah I don't think she was wise with a response like that. She's claiming racism by ESPN over this.

Check out the winners, particularly the category she was nominated for.

And I still believe she should have been invited for her achievements. I have no idea how many others didn't receive invitations that were nominated.
 

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I saw her "agent" made a comment about it. College players can have agents now?
 

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Sometimes things don't go your way. It's not called racism, it's called life! Get over it, **** HAPPENS!
 

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Don't you like the covid excuse - always works well when you can't come up with anything else.
I agree. That's a super lame excuse. I'm with Dawn on this one. Something is fishy.

She's a nominee for the Best Female Athlete in College Sports. That should earn a seat in one of the first few rows.
 
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Don't you like the covid excuse - always works well when you can't come up with anything else.
Combined with an excuse about being at a smaller venue with less capacity than previous venues. I mean, it's not like ESPN has any control over which venues they use, right? This was, literally, and act of God. Who could have possibly known they had chosen a venue that wasn't even big enough to invite all of their own nominees?
 

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It's always interesting to me when someone complains about a snub and then claims even greater offense when the offending party tries to rectify it.
 

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With all due respect to Aliyah I don't think she was wise with a response like that. She's claiming racism by ESPN over this.

Check out the winners, particularly the category she was nominated for.

And I still believe she should have been invited for her achievements. I have no idea how many others didn't receive invitations that were nominated.
There were 3 nominees.....Boston, the girl from OU that won, and a soccer player from FSU that is white and also was not invited. So claiming racism obviously does not look good.
 
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There were 3 nominees.....Boston, the girl from OU that won, and a soccer player from FSU that is white and also was not invited. So claiming racism obviously does not look good.
Actually there were 4 nominees in her category:
  • Aliyah Boston, South Carolina Women’s Basketball
  • Jaelin Howell, Florida State Soccer
  • Jocelyn Alo, Oklahoma Softball
  • Charlotte North, Boston College Lacrosse
 

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There were 3 nominees.....Boston, the girl from OU that won, and a soccer player from FSU that is white and also was not invited. So claiming racism obviously does not look good.

The winner, Alo, isn't white. Was she invited to be there in person?
 

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The winner, Alo, isn't white. Was she invited to be there in person?
Alo was invited but not to accept or speak. Last year all finalists were invited and the winner Bueckers spoke. At the least ESPN deemed Bueckers as moving the needle more than any of this year’s finalists
 

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Alo was invited but not to accept or speak. Last year all finalists were invited and the winner Bueckers spoke. At the least ESPN deemed Bueckers as moving the needle more than any of this year’s finalists

Well, I guess you have to take race and gender off the table then as Alo is both a female and a minority and she was invited.
 
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If Alo accepted and spoke your point might have credence

But she, as a female minority, was invited to attend in person. Boston's contention is that she was not invited because she is a female minority. Alo's invitation disproves that entirely.

And what about Candace Parker?
 
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But she, as a female minority, was invited to attend in person. Boston's contention is that she was not invited because she is a female minority. Alo's invitation disproves that entirely.
No not really. They only invited the winner this year and did not give her an opportunity to accept the award or speak. Last year all 3 finalists were invited and the winner, Bueckers, spoke and was heavily promoted after the event. Alo.... nothing.
The category was treated very differently this year. Was this racial? I don’t know. Was it the perception that Bueckers moves the meter and the 3 this year didn’t ? Again I don’t know. I do know all 3 males got invited and got air time both years.
To me it says ESPN made choices for time, budget and perceived viewership. And in no great shocker, women were the first ones cut from the agenda.
Throw in the fact that Boston was for a whole season the ESPNW video poster child for “The agony of defeat” and can understand her animus
 

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No not really. They only invited the winner this year and did not give her an opportunity to accept the award or speak. Last year all 3 finalists were invited and the winner, Bueckers, spoke and was heavily promoted after the event. Alo.... nothing.
The category was treated very differently this year. Was this racial? I don’t know. Was it the perception that Bueckers moves the meter and the 3 this year didn’t ? Again I don’t know. I do know all 3 males got invited and got air time both years.
To me it says ESPN made choices for time, budget and perceived viewership. And in no great shocker, women were the first ones cut from the agenda

How does Candace Parker factor into the equation? Black. Female. Invited. Spoke.
 

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How does Candace Parker factor into the equation? Black. Female. Invited. Spoke.
If you cannot see and acknowledge that the category of female college athlete was treated differently this year and that it directly affected Boston then you are just willfully ignoring reality.
Candace Parker was not nominated in the female college category which is what we are discussing
 

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If you cannot see and acknowledge that the category of female college athlete was treated differently this year and that it directly affected Boston then you are just willfully ignoring reality.
Candace Parker was not nominated in the female college category which is what we are discussing

I'm responding to the claims that the snub was based on race and gender.
 

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Combined with an excuse about being at a smaller venue with less capacity than previous venues. I mean, it's not like ESPN has any control over which venues they use, right? This was, literally, and act of God. Who could have possibly known they had chosen a venue that wasn't even big enough to invite all of their own nominees?


There are a total of 159 nominees for the 2022 ESPYs. The Dolby Theatre in LA has a seating capacity of 3,400. Seems like ESPN could have found someone out of the other 3,241 to ask not to attend, over any of the the actual nominees that the entire event is supposed to be for.......
 

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There are a total of 159 nominees for the 2022 ESPYs. The Dolby Theatre in LA has a seating capacity of 3,400. Seems like ESPN could have found someone out of the other 3,241 to ask not to attend, over any of the the actual nominees that the entire event is supposed to be for.......
For example, Cameron Brink from Stanford got and invite, and she was not nominated for any awards. She was not the best player on her own team, much less the nation. Did she get an invite just because she was "prittier"?
 

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For example, Cameron Brink from Stanford got and invite, and she was not nominated for any awards. She was not the best player on her own team, much less the nation. Did she get an invite just because she was "prittier"?
Two girls in a bar, ones a better cook and a better housekeeper. The other is prettier, which one gets your number?
 

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espn is a racist woke **** box and the conversation can end there if we'd like.
What say ye?
 

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There are a total of 159 nominees for the 2022 ESPYs. The Dolby Theatre in LA has a seating capacity of 3,400. Seems like ESPN could have found someone out of the other 3,241 to ask not to attend, over any of the the actual nominees that the entire event is supposed to be for.......
Sure, that's one option. OR . . . since they are ESP freakin' N, the same organization that can literally rearrange the first week of games on the college football schedule, maybe they could have picked a bigger venue? It's not like they don't have a lot of contacts in the venue-operating world.
 

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With all due respect to Aliyah I don't think she was wise with a response like that. She's claiming racism by ESPN over this.

Check out the winners, particularly the category she was nominated for.

And I still believe she should have been invited for her achievements. I have no idea how many others didn't receive invitations that were nominated.
Crying racism is the new crying wolf.
 

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All this hullabaloo is over a sports award show. Nevertheless...

Was it a mistake by ESPN not to invite the female college player of the year? Sure.

Is there any hint, however of minor, that the decision was race or gender-based, as Boston alleges? No. ESPN is among the most progressive organizations that exists.
 

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All this hullabaloo is over a sports award show. Nevertheless...

Was it a mistake by ESPN not to invite the female college player of the year? Sure.

Is there any hint, however of minor, that the decision was race or gender-based, as Boston alleges? No. ESPN is among the most progressive organizations that exists.
We are close, if ESPN is going to have an award show it is bush league not to invite all the nominees.
Do I think ESPN set out to deliberately perpetrate racism? No!
Do I think that racism creeps into our corporate, personal, or individual decisions unknowingly? Yeah it happens.
White golden Girl Bueckers won the year before and they put her front and center with an acceptance speech. They used that as a promo all year.
Boston who won EVERY award possible this year but the ESPY gets snubbed. It was a snub, no way around it. Was it because she didn’t move the meter like Bueckers and they went cheap on invitees? I tend to think so.
BUT The fact that they flogged Boston as the agony of defeat in every damn WBB promo and then don’t even invite her when she is THE redemption story of the year is at best tone deaf. At worst it is unthinking exclusion of a talented Black Champion, who’s guardian angel/watchdog is Dawn Staley
 

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Sure, that's one option. OR . . . since they are ESP freakin' N, the same organization that can literally rearrange the first week of games on the college football schedule, maybe they could have picked a bigger venue? It's not like they don't have a lot of contacts in the venue-operating world.
Actually the venue seats the same amount as last year, 3400. So it was just another ESPN lie to cover their tracks.
 
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