Am I alone in feeling apathetic about this team? Can Beamer right the ship in the off week?

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We are 5 games in, and I've seen one full game. I watched into the early 2nd half of the UNC game before I could read the writing on the wall and couldn't stomach any more. I watched the Furman game. I saw our opening TD against UGA and then had to leave for a prior engagement. Was traveling for the MSU game and turned it on right at the end. We were traveling back and got home near the start of the UT game but by the time we got unpacked and kids in bed, I could see the writing on the wall for that game as well and didn't bother turning it on except for a brief moment. In older days, I would move heaven and earth to not miss games, but I'm just not motivated this year. Since the UNC game went int the toilet, there's no urgency for me to see our games.

A friend of mine who is a big UT fan texted me several times that our OL was horrendous. I'd told him our OL was bad, but he had not seen us play and was genuinely shocked at how bad the OL was.

I saw a post on Twitter showing our defensive and offensive stats are near the bottom of the SEC in most every category.

We have no OL, no WR threat outside of XL, no run game threat (though Anderson shows promise).

Week in and week out we hear the same thing in the midweek pressers from Beamer: "We know we gotta get guys like Harbor involved more often." Then another game comes and goes without getting them involved, then Beamer says it again. Rinse, wash, repeat. If you acknowledge we need to do it, then do it. You're the head coach. Get it done.

The season is not lost yet, but it is barreling that direction unless something drastic changes. At this point, I'm not sure where 6 wins come from. Even if we win the absolute must-win UF game and beat Vandy and Jax St, that only gets us to 5. I don't see us beating Mizzou, A&M, UK or Clemson. If we get there, it'll be by the skin of our teeth.

I don't know how many of our problems are terminal and how many can be fixed mid-season. The OL problem it seems is terminal. Near the mid-point of the season, it's apparent we just don't have the personnel or the ability to scheme around the deficiency. That pretty much seals the fate for the offense. The brief snippet I turned on the UT game Saturday, the first thing I heard the announcer say was "Rattler has seen those dark mode jerseys in his face all night long." Then I turned it off. I just don't see any hope for the offense given how bad the OL is. And it is BAD. As bad as we've been on OL in the past, this is maybe the worst. Defensively, we are a mess as well, though I think they have performed admirably for stretches. But we rank near the bottom of the SEC in most major defensive categories.

The off-week could not come at a better time for this team. We have UF at home for an absolute do or die must-win game. This staff is going to have work around the clock with this bye week to straighten things out.
 

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We are building and this is expected.
Beamer can't come out and say "We know the O line will be young and putrid this year and our D line is to small and slow and we don't have any SEC running backs or receivers." So h does the rinse and repeat.
I hope we get to 6 wins this year and next but I don't expect good years for a while yet.
 

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We are building and this is expected.
Beamer can't come out and say "We know the O line will be young and putrid this year and our D line is to small and slow and we don't have any SEC running backs or receivers." So h does the rinse and repeat.
I hope we get to 6 wins this year and next but I don't expect good years for a while yet.

I go back and forth. The wins over UT and Clemson last year were probably more of a fluke and created unrealistic expectations. SOS didn't really get things going here until about Year 6. Should we expect better from Beamer? That said, it seems like the bottom has fallen out this year for just about everything. We are below average in just about everything.

I think White just has to go in the off-season.
 
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I do not feel as bad as I did after the UF game last year, and he found a way. Bye week comes at a good spot. Time to reassess some coaches and players.
 

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The direction is good. We just don't have the players right now, and injuries didn't help.

I think Loggains play calling should be scrutinized hard. He's made some really dumb calls.
 
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I'm with ya OP. Being a Gamecock fan is excruciating.....

And say what you want about Harbor and his "learning the playbook, learning to play the position, etc; I guaran-*(@!&*-tee you that pretty much ANY other team out there would have found a way to get the fastest 18yo in the country involved positively in the offense (and not just a single catch against an FCS opponent either). That, is frustrating.
 

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I'm with ya OP. Being a Gamecock fan is excruciating.....

And say what you want about Harbor and his "learning the playbook, learning to play the position, etc; I guaran-*(@!&*-tee you that pretty much ANY other team out there would have found a way to get the fastest 18yo in the country involved positively in the offense (and not just a single catch against an FCS opponent either). That, is frustrating.

Yep. I guaran-darn-tee Harbor would have already been an impact player at any other SEC program this year. Thing is, with the portal, you run the risk of kids transferring out. Harbor may very well be a 3-year player. If we piss away his first year, what's his motivation to come back to a team that didn't play him and is just hoping to be a bowl-eligible team? He was on the verge of going to Oregon as it was. You think he's looking at them and wondering what he could be doing in their offense?
 

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Yep. I guaran-darn-tee Harbor would have already been an impact player at any other SEC program this year. Thing is, with the portal, you run the risk of kids transferring out. Harbor may very well be a 3-year player. If we piss away his first year, what's his motivation to come back to a team that didn't play him and is just hoping to be a bowl-eligible team? He was on the verge of going to Oregon as it was. You think he's looking at them and wondering what he could be doing in their offense?
Eeek! I hadn't even thought of that! I hope he has settled in and really enjoys living here!
 
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Eeek! I hadn't even thought of that! I hope he has settled in and really enjoys living here!

Leave to us to bring in a top 20 national player, who was regarded as the most freakish athlete in the nation, and we have not managed to find a way to involve him in a grossly underperforming offense. It'd be one thing if we had guys balling out and he just had to wait his turn. But we've got diddly outside of XL.
 

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Yep. I guaran-darn-tee Harbor would have already been an impact player at any other SEC program this year. Thing is, with the portal, you run the risk of kids transferring out. Harbor may very well be a 3-year player. If we piss away his first year, what's his motivation to come back to a team that didn't play him and is just hoping to be a bowl-eligible team? He was on the verge of going to Oregon as it was. You think he's looking at them and wondering what he could be doing in their offense?

And why are we not playing Eddie Lewis?
 
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And why are we not playing Eddie Lewis?
Doty got 24 snaps to Lewis' 1. That's insanity.

What Beamer has to understand is that the days of bringing in guys to develop are over. I guarantee OR hasn't lost contact one way or another with Nyck. High 4* and 5* guys just play. End of story. Unless you're Bama/UGA where you just stack them, you have no choice so you better figure it out. Even if he wasn't that fast, you'd think a 6-5 240 lb guy would get a couple of jump balls, a couple of screens to see if he can make a guy miss and break one. Really hoping there's a lot of soul searching going on during the bye week, bc what's been going on with the RBs and WRs is a travesty.
 

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Recognition that the OL can't give Rattler the time he needs and coming up with a solution is imperative.
I saw no attempt or adjustments made during the entire TN game. That is dumbfounding.
 
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Doty got 24 snaps to Lewis' 1. That's insanity.

What Beamer has to understand is that the days of bringing in guys to develop are over. I guarantee OR hasn't lost contact one way or another with Nyck. High 4* and 5* guys just play. End of story. Unless you're Bama/UGA where you just stack them, you have no choice so you better figure it out. Even if he wasn't that fast, you'd think a 6-5 240 lb guy would get a couple of jump balls, a couple of screens to see if he can make a guy miss and break one. Really hoping there's a lot of soul searching going on during the bye week, bc what's been going on with the RBs and WRs is a travesty.

This is my concern. Do you think Nyck isn't sitting on the bench and wondering what he might be doing in Oregon's #4 scoring offense compared to our 89th ranked offense where he isn't even getting on the field?
 
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Recognition that the OL can't give Rattler the time he needs and coming up with a solution is imperative.
I saw no attempt or adjustments made during the entire TN game. That is dumbfounding.

What solution is there when the OL is this bad? I turned the game on in the 2nd half and immediately heard the announcers say "Rattler has seen those dark mode jerseys in his face all night long." Then I turned it off.
 

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Doty got 24 snaps to Lewis' 1. That's insanity.

What Beamer has to understand is that the days of bringing in guys to develop are over. I guarantee OR hasn't lost contact one way or another with Nyck. High 4* and 5* guys just play. End of story. Unless you're Bama/UGA where you just stack them, you have no choice so you better figure it out. Even if he wasn't that fast, you'd think a 6-5 240 lb guy would get a couple of jump balls, a couple of screens to see if he can make a guy miss and break one. Really hoping there's a lot of soul searching going on during the bye week, bc what's been going on with the RBs and WRs is a travesty.
As I have said many times, at least send him on some fly routes and see if they can keep up. At least he will feel he is involved, and it might actually turn out to be a weapon. Have to try it to find out.
 
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As I have said many times, at least send him on some fly routes and see if they can keep up. At least he will feel he is involved, and it might actually turn out to be a weapon. Have to try it to find out.

This is the thing. It's not like you risk messing up the offense by plugging in a true freshman. I understand playing a true freshman isn't always or even usually the answer, but I also don't understand continuing to do something that has been shown to be ineffective.
 

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Win 6 or more for a bowl and beat cu for the state. I was hoping for better.
 

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What solution is there when the OL is this bad? I turned the game on in the 2nd half and immediately heard the announcers say "Rattler has seen those dark mode jerseys in his face all night long." Then I turned it off.
We never tried to exploit the huge gap being left by the wide outside rush by TN edge rusher. Would have been easy for Tree to push him further wide and try to run off that tackle spot. Double tight end formation to help with blocking a passes over the middle to TE were open - TN LB's were playing wide for the WR screens all night.
I just didn't see any coaching taking place to find solutions. Maybe I'm blind but I didn't see anything.
 
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Recognition that the OL can't give Rattler the time he needs and coming up with a solution is imperative.
I saw no attempt or adjustments made during the entire TN game. That is dumbfounding.
At the very least incorporate a rolling pocket from time to time ( a planned one, not the I'm running for my life type)
 
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Win 6 or more for a bowl and beat cu for the state. I was hoping for better.

Assume we beat Vandy and Jax to get to 4 wins.

Where do 2 more wins come from between UF, Mizzou, A&M, UK and Clemson? You have to assume UF is in the must-win category. I don't see us winning at A&M or Mizzou. We get Clemson and UK at home, so our only hope is to split these 2 games.

Even so, we'll be looking at a 6-win year in which half of our wins were against creampuffs.
 

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Assume we beat Vandy and Jax to get to 4 wins.

Where do 2 more wins come from between UF, Mizzou, A&M, UK and Clemson? You have to assume UF is in the must-win category. I don't see us winning at A&M or Mizzou. We get Clemson and UK at home, so our only hope is to split these 2 games.

Even so, we'll be looking at a 6-win year in which half of our wins were against creampuffs.
I originally thought a 6-6 campaign seemed to be a reasonable outlook, but I'm with you I don't feel optimistic of another 4 wins, 2 yes, but not 4. The hard truth is we are not that good of a team, and the results are beginning to prove that point.
 
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As I have said many times, at least send him on some fly routes and see if they can keep up. At least he will feel he is involved, and it might actually turn out to be a weapon. Have to try it to find out.
TrUsT ThE CoaCHes!~ /sarc

I'm with you 1000%!

Assume we beat Vandy and Jax to get to 4 wins.

Where do 2 more wins come from between UF, Mizzou, A&M, UK and Clemson? You have to assume UF is in the must-win category. I don't see us winning at A&M or Mizzou. We get Clemson and UK at home, so our only hope is to split these 2 games.

Even so, we'll be looking at a 6-win year in which half of our wins were against creampuffs.
Playing/looking like we did against ut, there are no wins other than Jax and (hopefully) Vandy.
 

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I originally thought a 6-6 campaign seemed to be a reasonable outlook, but I'm with you I don't feel optimistic of another 4 wins, 2 yes, but not 4. The hard truth is we are not that good of a team, and the results are beginning to prove that point.
Depends on which OL shows up. If the GA OL had shown up for TN, it might have been a different ballgame.
Where did that OL go?
 

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TrUsT ThE CoaCHes!~ /sarc

I'm with you 1000%!


Playing/looking like we did against ut, there are no wins other than Jax and (hopefully) Vandy.
I watched some of the Vandy/Mizzu game and Vandy did not look like a typical Vandy team.
 
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This is my concern. Do you think Nyck isn't sitting on the bench and wondering what he might be doing in Oregon's #4 scoring offense compared to our 89th ranked offense where he isn't even getting on the field?
Getting him the TD catch vs Furman was a good move, but he needs to be more involved.
 
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Thank you 181st for sharing your perspective and starting this thread.

I have held out hope and been wishful thinking that the Team and Coaches would improve.

But that isn't what is happening 😕. Guess I have been in denial as to how bad the situation is concerning our football team.

Guess I need to have the courage to change the TV channel or Turn the TV Off like some of you.

Seems like we fans have been down this road before.

Reminds me of an old Rock song by Slaughter. "As I drive down this lonely, lonely road, I get this feeling I need to let you go.(Heartbreak)
Gonna have to let go of my expectations, which were low to begin with, 6 -6, and Watch and pull for some other teams.

This stuff is beyond heartbreaking, discouraging, and disappointing.

Like most of you, I Love American Football, especially College Football. So I am always eager and excited for the college football season to start.

This has killed my enthusiasm. I watch other games with other teams,but it just isn't the same as watching the Gamecocks play. Guess it may be time to start a new hobby.
 

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Guess I need to have the courage to change the TV channel or Turn the TV Off like some of you.

I don't know if it's courage or cowardice.

I was in the stands for our 63-7 humiliation at the hands of Florida back in 1993. It was chilly, windy and a bit rainy if I recall. There was absolutely nothing enjoyable about the experience. We were as outmatched as any team ever has been in the history of college football. But I stayed until the bitter, bitter end and the clock read 00:00.

These days, I just don't have it in me. Once you've watched enough of our games, you just know. You can watch a game and realize pretty early on: we aren't winning this one. I just don't have it in me any longer to sit and take the punishment.
 
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I don't know if it's courage or cowardice.

I was in the stands for our 63-7 humiliation at the hands of Florida back in 1993. It was chilly, windy and a bit rainy if I recall. There was absolutely nothing enjoyable about the experience. We were as outmatched as any team ever has been in the history of college football. But I stayed until the bitter, bitter end and the clock read 00:00.

These days, I just don't have it in me. Once you've watched enough of our games, you just know. You can watch a game and realize pretty early on: we aren't winning this one. I just don't have it in me any longer to sit and take the punishment.
I'm a glutton for punishment so I stay till the end - although I do start to wander around the house sometimes on those bad days.
 

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Florida is not good. Immobile QB, defensive line looks to be below average, and their receivers appear to be about average. I think Jacksonville State will present more of a challenge than Florida.
 

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Florida is not good. Immobile QB, defensive line looks to be below average, and their receivers appear to be about average. I think Jacksonville State will present more of a challenge than Florida.

I know you can't always apply the transitive property, but UF pretty easily handled the UT team that just beat us by 21 points.
 
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