This team is done.
Feel stupid for taking the bait and getting excited about baseball for the first time in a long time.
Feel stupid for taking the bait and getting excited about baseball for the first time in a long time.
Anyone got a fork?
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Our bats are toothpicks stuck behind our ears - and the slump continues!
Nine innings of misery.
Yep. They are finished. They have been for a couple of weeks now…but still held onto a little bit of hope. What a colossal meltdown. And it’s worst when you combine it with Clemson being one of the hottest teams in the country as the season winds down. We had quite the gauntlet for a month there. Did fine. Then it felt like we had a letdown and never recovered. Some will blame injuries. I think Kingston just isn’t a winner.
This meltdown cannot be put all on injuries. Without calling names, some of the injured produced very little this year.
Also, look at Arkansas, it seems they have battled through injury bug this year. I concur with your last sentence.
Well, with tonight’s loss, we now have to play Tuesday in Hoover, so we won’t have to wait long to find out.
It’s Hoover. Can just about bet we’ll go 0-2 and then waiting to see what regional we’ll travel to. Seriously, might be in Clemson’s.
You have to have to string together base hits to win in Hoover. I do not have high hopes right now. We also don’t have the pitching staff for tournament play.
I turned it off in the 4th inning and I've never switched a game off that early before. I told my brother that you could feel another loss coming. I'm glad I watched different stuff last night. Pathetic.
Me too, but watching baseball is like a drug to me, I've been hooked on it for years
Man. What a total collapse. When we bottom out we do it in a fashion that takes your breath away. Seems to me a change is needed and normally I’m not an alarmist but w hen things go this far south especially after the record of the last years of this staff we need new blood and leadership unless we want a former proud program to be bottom feeders.
I hear ya. I'll continue to watch knowing full well I'm probably not going to like how this plays out.Me too, but watching baseball is like a drug to me, I've been hooked on it for years
Uh...what? Here's all the injuries I can remember. Help me out here with the ones you are saying "produced very little this year" outside of Sanders. If you want to criticize the team, have at but don't start just making stuff up and pretending injuries didn't and haven't played a huge role.
Will Mcgillis - .286 avg 10 hr 21 rbi
Talmadge Lecroy - .292 avg 4 hr 32 rbi
Braylen Wimmer - .286 avg 11 hr 37 rbi
Gavin Casas - .265 avg 19 hr 45 rbi
Noah Hall - 3.29 era 5-1 record
Eli Jerzembeck - 2.84 era 31.2 ip
Will Sanders - 5.75 era 4-3 record
Part of the game and Arky didn't let it stop them.
If we wait for an injury free year to make a change, Kingston will be here until he retires!
Not only did Carter join Jaxon Wiggins (torn UCL) and Koty Frank (torn lat) as Diamond Hogs that are done for the year, but he was just the latest in a long line of players to be injured at some point for Arkansas baseball this year. When I say long line, I mean a long line...
~ Jaxon Wiggins - torn UCL (season)
~ Koty Frank - torn lat (season)
~ Brady Tygart - sprained UCL (returned)
~ Jared Wegner - broken thumb (out indefinitely)
~ Parker Rowland - back (returned)
~ Tavian Josenberger - hamstring (out indefinitely)
~ Peyton Stovall - shoulder (out for Mississippi State series)
~ Peyton Holt - tweaked ankle (returned)
~ Dylan Carter - torn UCL (season)
You would feel the same way if we had this slump at the beginning of the year, and then turned it around at this time. It's baseball.
... baseball that hasn't been played that way here in a very very long time. Holbrook wasn't able to do that in 5 years and Kingston hasn't in 6. That's a problem.
See Arkansas is all I will say. Production can mean falling short of production and accolades heaped upon a person preseason. Or, starting hot and ending cold when playing tough conference games.
so true. Especially Kingston. He came in talking about the modern way to play baseball, all analytical. How fast a ball leaves a bat, what angle it travels ect. Wen all your players have to have Dick Tracy wrist watches,or fannypacks on your belt or a score card in your pocket to know what to trow or where to play in the field or whent to swing the bat or throw to second the game it self gets lost. When was the last time you saw Kingston go to the mound to talk to his picthers and team?? Or get lead of runners on and never try to bunt to get scoring position or get out of D P mode. His baseball is not by baseball an apprently his players. No motivation or excitment from coach donn"t expect it from players. O K I hush. by Kingston via Frank Martin. To long for both.
"See Arkansas." OK, so you decided that what you said was totally false and change your argument. Got it.
And Ray bought it hook, line and sinker. Guess when Ray decided he would walk away he thought it would be a good idea for old school to walk away with him.
I've always thought relying heavily on analytics was a pretty good sign that a coach didn't have enough of baseball mind to win otherwise. Id like to think if we ever go in that direction again, we at least hire a guy who has a track record of it working.
To me, analytics in baseball is more of an individual thing than a team thing. Analytics is an excellent tool to help a hitter correct a problem with his swing or a pitcher with his throwing motion/delivery but I've never seen the value as a team concept builder.
I know it has been helpful in positioning fielders based on statistics, but one of my favorite things to see is a smart hitter spoil all that analysis by sticking out his bat and "hitting it where they ain't" if the opposing team is fool enough to play them that way. Ray had some great teams who did nothing but play "old school" baseball and that is my preferred approach. Just my two cents worth!
It blows my mind to see us shift defensively to guys from teams that clearly teach and do well going with the pitch. Doubly so when I see us not afraid to pitch let's say to the right side of the plate with only one defensive player on the right side of the field. Goes against all logic if you ask me.
The move to shift with two strikes is even more mind boggling, as the batter is just looking to put the bat on the ball.
You have given up on the season? Were you one that gave up on the football team after the Florida loss?
Pitcher struggles in the 2nd. No one in the bullpen.
Pitcher struggles in the 3rd. No one in the bullpen.
Pitcher struggles in the 4th. No one in the bullpen.
Now you're down 0-4
Oh let's get someone up in the bullpen.
It's a critical game. The bullpen is available.
Somebody wants to explain this?
Pitcher struggles in the 3rd. No one in the bullpen.
Pitcher struggles in the 4th. No one in the bullpen.
Now you're down 0-4
Oh let's get someone up in the bullpen.
It's a critical game. The bullpen is available.
Somebody wants to explain this?
Not to mention the fact that it is only a damn 7 inning game and we have used none of our big arms at all. There's no excuse for this.
Our slump is directly proportional to the number of pitches out hitters leave the bat sitting on their shoulder on called strikes. Its unbelievable that our coaches are not "strongly advising" our hitters to swing the d*mn bat!
Even today I got this feeling the umpire did not want to see guys stepping in the box in hope of walking and wanted to see guys swing the bat. Truth is it happens. So do we swing at anything close in that situation? Rarely it seems... nor do we adjust if it becomes apparent what the ump wants to see.
On a positive note and a not quite ready for the fork our ladies won their elimination game and play another in about 30 min.
Wimmer didn’t even try to score on that base hit… I get he’s injured but this throwing in the towel crap is total crap.