Anyone watching Franklin's presser? Link not working on psu site. He had time to watch tape and collect his precious stats
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Ahh, first question about what keep Franklins from getting these things that he identified as weaknesses (size, recruiting, fundamentals) which have been a problem over time. "I answered those questions in past. I would prefer to talk in the off-season"..ridiculous deflection.
I watched the entire thing. He deferred on some of the more state of the state kind of questions. James seems a bit down. Had to laugh at both Giger and Snyder. They write big scathing articles but when they get face to face they throw softballs or useless questions. Typical gutless media types. He wouldn't answer regarding Tangwell or Cliffords availability.
Finally...how much does it pay? I'll start with basics - recruit a big guy that can push the other big in front of you when on offense. Next, recruit a big guy to push the other big guy out of the way when on defense.
Frank Bodani pretty much busts Franklins' narrative. It is not size but scheme and execution. Franklin kept saying he will address it in off-season and multiple times referenced 2016 run. There is his crutch again. Now, what happens when we lose and he can't compare to that 2016. He sounds desperate.
"Size is a tool and size is a weapon," Franklin said.
He went on to analyze Michigan with star nose tackle Mazi Smith (337 pounds) and edge rusher Mike Morris (292 pounds) without mentioning names.
"They've got two 300-pounders or a 330-pound defensive tackle, a war daddy in there, and he's between two 255 or 270 pound defensive ends − that’s a problem," Franklin said. "There's some defenses we have played or have studied that do that. And don’t get me wrong, I really like our d-line room. But there are some guys who would help us and help themselves if they gained a few pounds.
It was an intriguing and bit unexpected point to dwell on. The Wolverines' main defensive tackles, who average about 310 pounds per man, are certainly larger than Penn State's rotation (290-pound average). But the defensive ends are about a wash, with the Lions' rotation actually a bit bulkier per man (253 to 247 pounds).
The teams' offensive lines are pretty equal by the numbers too, starters on both ranging between 300 to about 310 pounds.
So who's undersized at Penn State?
Former 5-star recruit Chop Robinson, who's been the team's best rusher off the edge this season, is 240 pounds and could certainly bulk up. But he just arrived at Penn State this spring, as a transfer from Maryland, and is playing his first season as a regular in college.
Another 5-star recruit, Dani Dennis-Sutton, still looks lean at 253 pounds but, again, just arrived at Penn State as a true freshman this summer.
Veteran defensive tackle Hakeem Beamon certainly is small for a tackle at 265 pounds, but he has flexed between tackle and defensive end during his career. Promising prospect Zane Durant is only 276 pounds but still a true freshman.
Penn State senior nose tackle PJ Mustipher is listed at 318 pounds and is an All-America candidate − the playing equal to Michigan's Smith.
"Size is a tool and size is a weapon," Franklin said.
He went on to analyze Michigan with star nose tackle Mazi Smith (337 pounds) and edge rusher Mike Morris (292 pounds) without mentioning names.
"They've got two 300-pounders or a 330-pound defensive tackle, a war daddy in there, and he's between two 255 or 270 pound defensive ends − that’s a problem," Franklin said. "There's some defenses we have played or have studied that do that. And don’t get me wrong, I really like our d-line room. But there are some guys who would help us and help themselves if they gained a few pounds.
It was an intriguing and bit unexpected point to dwell on. The Wolverines' main defensive tackles, who average about 310 pounds per man, are certainly larger than Penn State's rotation (290-pound average). But the defensive ends are about a wash, with the Lions' rotation actually a bit bulkier per man (253 to 247 pounds).
The teams' offensive lines are pretty equal by the numbers too, starters on both ranging between 300 to about 310 pounds.
So who's undersized at Penn State?
Former 5-star recruit Chop Robinson, who's been the team's best rusher off the edge this season, is 240 pounds and could certainly bulk up. But he just arrived at Penn State this spring, as a transfer from Maryland, and is playing his first season as a regular in college.
Another 5-star recruit, Dani Dennis-Sutton, still looks lean at 253 pounds but, again, just arrived at Penn State as a true freshman this summer.
Veteran defensive tackle Hakeem Beamon certainly is small for a tackle at 265 pounds, but he has flexed between tackle and defensive end during his career. Promising prospect Zane Durant is only 276 pounds but still a true freshman.
Penn State senior nose tackle PJ Mustipher is listed at 318 pounds and is an All-America candidate − the playing equal to Michigan's Smith.
To me the DT's should be around 300 and DE should be at least 270 preferably 275. Then we always hear that it has to be the "right kind" of weight... Always will be exceptions with great athletes that may be a lighter weight but most successful teams seem to be built like that... Alabama has 3 300 pounders on the Dline to go along with Will Anderson. OSU is similar to Bama in weight. Guys 240-250 when locked up against Oline guys 300 plus pounds doesn't match up well IMHO.
Michigan DL
Mason Graham 317
Mazi Smith 337
Kris Jenkins 285
Mike Morris 292
Penn State DL
PJ 321
Beamon 261
Tarburton 269
Chop 242
There is a definitive size difference in addition to scheme problems. Yes, we have other big DL, but usually they sub in at DT. We don't have any big DEs. Tarburton is it.
Now is this the "Franklin loss boogeyman"? Probably so. And if we are undersized, who can Franklin blame but himself? He recruited these guys. He hired the S&C to develop them.
Mason Graham 317
Mazi Smith 337
Kris Jenkins 285
Mike Morris 292
Penn State DL
PJ 321
Beamon 261
Tarburton 269
Chop 242
There is a definitive size difference in addition to scheme problems. Yes, we have other big DL, but usually they sub in at DT. We don't have any big DEs. Tarburton is it.
Now is this the "Franklin loss boogeyman"? Probably so. And if we are undersized, who can Franklin blame but himself? He recruited these guys. He hired the S&C to develop them.
I'm sure there is a "metric" somewhere that shows how speed/quickness is reduced as weight increases and some metric that defines which is best depending on the type of defensive scheme is going to be employed, albeit one to defend against a pass or a run, or even a punt/field goal and a corollary metric is utilized to incorporate if there may be a fake employed on any of those, all the while melding in another corollary metric for what specific position of the field one is at as well as one to account for the stage of the game, such as ahead or behind and time remaining on the clock.
Experience and instinct can't be accounted for in the metric system. [TIC and JBAD]
Experience and instinct can't be accounted for in the metric system. [TIC and JBAD]
Yeah, this is where I agree with all of you guys. Instead of recruiting big natural DTs, PSU constantly goes after DE sized kids with the “potential to grow into a DT”. I’m a little tired of that also. If Franklin thinks the DL is too small then all he has to do is look in the mirror to find the reason for it. Mustipher is a good player but PSU hasn’t had an impact DT since Zettel or Austin Johnson. Givens was pretty good at being disruptive but again, he had to grow into the position. Go get some big midwestern farm boys for the OL and DL. Tired of the finesse approach.
Disappointing in the beat writers but not surprised. Talk about fair weather. They’re rolling when things are going well but can’t ask any tough questions when needed. We deserve it. Everything about this program is rinse & repeat”. Same thing three yrs in a row now. Fade after a bye. If anyone thinks 2016 will repeat itself they are delusional.
It's not just bye weeks.
Franklin is 3-5 in games after the first loss of the season. While some of that may be scheduling (OSU following the 1st loss or somethinglikethat), hopefully we don't let Michigan beat us twice.
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