The Virginia baseball coach left UV over the universities level of monetary commitment towards baseball, specifically retaining and recruiting money. If we are promising him more and committing more money towards baseball here at State, are we thus taking even more away from football with regards to potential NIL?
Are we sacrificing football NIL for baseball?
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Well let's just say the football team isn't going to get that high thread count Egyptian cotton towels for the practice facility now
Anytime you can take resources away from your primary money maker (by a mile!) and put it toward a niche activity that doesn't generate near the same amount of revenue, you gotta do that. It's just good business.
Why would you assume we're taking away from football? I suspect it'll be the women's' sports that take a haircut. The fans on the Virginia boards were complaining about their AD (a woman) over allocating resources to their women's basketball program instead of baseball. That's not going to be an issue here.
I suspect we have a lot of donations earmarked for baseball only plus allocating a higher % than most from general funds to the sport. Which program(s) takes the haircut? I don't know.
And we won’t be paying for sports like swimming and lacrosse.
If we spent $5 million more per year on football, would it matter? No, it would just make Bama/uga/texas(s) spend $6 million more. Results won’t change.
Yes. Easy and obvious yes. Our football team is the lifeblood of the athletic department. Every dollar spent there has a chance to come back ten or twenty fold. Not true with baseball.
Virginia’s baseball and women’s basketball both lost about $3 Million in the 2023 fiscal year.
Women’s basketball has more financial upside since the NCAA is going to start paying out units for teams participating and advancing like they do in the men’s tournament. They don’t do that for baseball.
This thread is started by someone who does not have a clue about our baseball boosters.
I hear you, but i think we get our welfare check no matter what and spending $5mil more want improve the product on the field.
It’s not really a haircut though.
in a lot of those situations, donors wouldn’t donate if it didn’t go to baseball. That’s just where they wanna spend their money.
It's the difference between 2-10 and 4-8. Honestly I'd rather just continue to be embarrassing in football but have a dominant baseball program. Yes, I know it's not the money maker, but if I'm given the choice I'd like at least something we can hang our hats on.
Wait, splain it to me like I'm 4. What will be done with $5M to foosball that will get 10x return.
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Unless there are big donors who earmark money specifically for baseball, then every NIL dollar spent on baseball is a dollar that could have been spent on football (or somewhere else).
That dollar goes a lot further in baseball than it does in football. I don’t know what we’ve committed to baseball, but the decision makers apparently believe it’s enough to make us a major player on the national stage. Whatever number that is is likely a drop in the bucket compared to what it would take to be a major player in football.
I suppose you could also raise those dollars by tripling the price of tickets and premium areas at DNF. Charging people to bring in coolers. Selling corporate naming rights to DNF. None of those would impact football dollars. They also would be tremendously unpopular, but folks will overlook it if you’re winning.
We should and basketball too. Compete in what is realistic. I’m more of a football fan than anything else but we have no realistic chance to be really competitive in football. It sucks tho.
This is where I am. There’s a what? 1%-3% variance in the amount of money the school gets regardless of whether football wins 9 games or 3? The school loses out on the lion’s share of 1 missed bowl game, lower ticket sales, and maybe some withheld stubborn booster contributions until we fire the coach. Is there a real ROI to spending that much on football at this point in the NIL era?
A lot of folks here were clowning Texas Tech for paying Cannady $1 million to play softball there, but they’re 3 wins away from winning the National Championship. I dunno… I think I’d rather pay $1 million to win a national championship in softball than pay $5 million to go 4-8 or 5-7 in football.
How? Like… how does that math work out? Most of our SEC money is guaranteed and unchanging.
I think the ROI is on getting people to campus. Yes, provided we don't get left out of reorganization, we can in the short term rake in money by not investing in football and taking SEC welfare money. But prospective students generally want to have a fun football weekend, and I think not being competitive in football will hurt enrollment.
I think you'd be in a pretty substantial minority. I mean, I'm not paying $1M or $5M, so not sure my vote counts, but as bad as 4-8 or 5-7 sucks, it's still more fun than 2-10.
We might be looking at each year going to the egg bowl praying for that 6th win, while the rebels are praying to sneak into the playoffs
Wouldn’t hurt my feelings. I understand that football generates the revenue and you want to optimize your success there. But I just love college baseball man and wouldn’t it be fun to be a dominant force year in and year out.
Who cares? I keep trying to say put money into a sport that matters at msu AND we can be good at. We will not win an arms race in SEC football. It will never happen.
POTUS, first let me say that you are full of sh*t. Baseball, at all three of the major universities in the great sovereign state of Mississippi, makes money. You have vomiting up your “niche” sport idea for all the years I have been on SixPackSpeak. Football needs to fight for dollars, but it’s hard, since “sucking” is generally where they end up. Our baseball program doesn’t suck. It is that simple. Money goes to success.
The correlation between football success and university success is established fact. Having excitement around the football team raises all boats including baseball. Football weekends can be massive revenue generators in a way that even our good baseball weekends just can’t. If that 5 mil took us from 4-8 to 6-6 or from 5-7 to 7-5, I mean to me that’s a no brainer. I’d just like to us focus on something besides baseball because I don’t think even great success there can lift up our other programs.