Art Briles hired at Grambling

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Doug Williams on Briles (Sports Illustrated)...

Williams said, “I’m not a fan at all. I’m very, very disappointed in Grambling, I really am.…I talked to the A.D. a couple times. They knew where I stood, but they did it and if that’s what they want to do, that’s fine. I’m out. I don’t know why Grambling State had to go be the one to hire him... If I support them [Grambling], I condone it.”
 

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I saw a picture of him being interviewed about the job - he looks like he'll keel over any day now. I can't imagine him running a division I program again, but I'm interested to see if he's still got the play calling chops.
 

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My question is this....Briles has said that he hated what happened on his watch to all these women. OK....He received a multimillion dollar payout from Baylor...Did he feel so sorry for these women that he offered to pay for counseling for these women? How much $$$ did he give to help these women, since he was THE problem?

He said he was sorry. That's not enough!!! He should be banned for LIFE from coaching!!!!
 

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Grambling has cut bait already
 

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Was Briles charged with any crimes?, , are you really attempting to defend the Art Briles regime at Baylor. There is a very big reason why he has been a pariah in the coaching universe since 2016 and his not been hired since then at . His actions were indefensible. there is no argument about this.
Are you really attempting to defend the Art Briles regime at Baylor. There is a very big reason why he has been a pariah in the coaching universe and has been hired since 2016. His actions or lack thereof were indefensible. There is no argument about this.
From the Dallas Morning News: In the Baylor case, the NCAA infractions panel stated that Briles “failed to meet even the most basic expectations of how a person should react to the kind of conduct at issue in this case. Furthermore, as a campus leader, the head coach is held to an even higher standard. He completely failed to meet this standard.”
February 2017: Art Briles’ text messages reveal he knew about Baylor scandal that is getting worse each day

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/b...ing-state-less-than-a-week-after-being-hired/
 

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Are you really attempting to defend the Art Briles regime at Baylor. There is a very big reason why he has been a pariah in the coaching universe and has been hired since 2016. His actions or lack thereof were indefensible. There is no argument about this.
From the Dallas Morning News: In the Baylor case, the NCAA infractions panel stated that Briles “failed to meet even the most basic expectations of how a person should react to the kind of conduct at issue in this case. Furthermore, as a campus leader, the head coach is held to an even higher standard. He completely failed to meet this standard.”
February 2017: Art Briles’ text messages reveal he knew about Baylor scandal that is getting worse each day

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/b...ing-state-less-than-a-week-after-being-hired/

Do any of those texts have to do with the sexual assault claims that led to his dismissal?

I guarantee every head coach of a P5 program has had a "goodness, I hope we can keep this quiet" moment with regard to a player's behavior.
 

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"What did he know and when did he know it"? Y'all remember that old Watergate chestnut. That's really the main factor in Briles' culpability in this matter. I'm not up on it because I avoid things that stink. If someone has a clear, short, correct answer to that question, I'd like to read it.
 

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"What did he know and when did he know it"? Y'all remember that old Watergate chestnut. That's really the main factor in Briles' culpability in this matter. I'm not up on it because I avoid things that stink. If someone has a clear, short, correct answer to that question, I'd like to read it.
This is a timeline of all that went down at Baylor, going back to the first allegation. The thing that sticks out to me is how infrequently Briles name comes up.

For sure he had a lot of dirtbags on the team, but nothing in that timeline suggests he was involved in any kind of coverup of sexual assault. As far as I can tell from the timeline, just about every case of alleged sexual assault was reported to authorities.

 
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Do any of those texts have to do with the sexual assault claims that led to his dismissal?

I guarantee every head coach of a P5 program has had a "goodness, I hope we can keep this quiet" moment with regard to a player's behavior.
Had you clicked on the link, you would have had your answer.
 

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This is a timeline of all that went down at Baylor, going back to the first allegation. The thing that sticks out to me is how infrequently Briles name comes up.

For sure he had a lot of dirtbags on the team, but nothing in that timeline suggests he was involved in any kind of coverup of sexual assault. As far as I can tell from the timeline, just about every case of alleged sexual assault was reported to authorities.

There was plenty of smoke. The culture was obviously toxic That's a Baptist school. They had to do a purge. It necessarily swept up a number of people. That he was one of them should have come as no surprise. It's as with Penn State. The institution can't even APPEAR to be complicit.
He couldn't have been that oblivious. If he was, he didn't need to be there. If he wasn't, his actions didn't show it and he also didn't need to be there.
 
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There was plenty of smoke. The culture was obviously toxic That's a Baptist school. They had to do a purge. It necessarily swept up a number of people. That he was one of them should have come as no surprise. It's as with Penn State. The institution can't even APPEAR to be complicit.

He couldn't have been that oblivious. If he was, he didn't need to be there. If he wasn't, his actions didn't show it and he also didn't need to be there.

Well, I don't put much stock in it being a Baptist school. There's not much Baptist about it.

I don't deny he had scummy guys on the team. That's obvious. I'm not even saying he shouldn't have been fired. However, the media and cancel culture narrative is not accurate. I'm also not at all into the "he did something wrong so he can never work in coaching again" mindset. If what he did was so wrong, Baylor would not have had to pay him $15 million. That makes it obvious that it was just a clean up job and his firing was symbolic.
 

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Well, I don't put much stock in it being a Baptist school. There's not much Baptist about it.

I don't deny he had scummy guys on the team. That's obvious. I'm not even saying he shouldn't have been fired. However, the media and cancel culture narrative is not accurate. I'm also not at all into the "he did something wrong so he can never work in coaching again" mindset. If what he did was so wrong, Baylor would not have had to pay him $15 million. That makes it obvious that it was just a clean up job and his firing was symbolic.
They are the largest Baptist university in the world. They are affiliated with the Baptist General Convention of Texas and still have a seminary, unlike schools such as Furman and Wake Forest. On the other hand, Baylor is a highly regarded research university with an R1 rating. The fact that they were willing to pay the $15 million to part with Briles bespeaks a very tangible expression of "symbolism". The money was to get it behind them - to the extent they were able.
 

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They are the largest Baptist university in the world. They are affiliated with the Baptist General Convention of Texas and still have a seminary, unlike schools such as Furman and Wake Forest. On the other hand, Baylor is a highly regarded research university with an R1 rating. The fact that they were willing to pay the $15 million to part with Briles bespeaks a very tangible expression of "symbolism". The money was to get it behind them - to the extent they were able.

Well, they teach evolution, which isn't like any Baptists I know.

I see the $15 million as more a sign they didn't have any grounds to fire him and that was price of getting him to go without a fight.
 

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Well, they teach evolution, which isn't like any Baptists I know.

I see the $15 million as more a sign they didn't have any grounds to fire him and that was price of getting him to go without a fight.
They don't teach evolution at the seminary, I'm certain. Lots of Christian schools teach it as a theory.

As @Harvard Gamecock cited above, he dropped his defamation lawsuit against the school, which certainly indicates he didn't figure to win it. Some of his texts weren't going to be beneficial to his case. https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/2...aylor-scandal-that-is-getting-worse-each-day/

That's really all I have to say on the matter.
 
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