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pee dee rooster

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Are we going to have enough pitching left next season to field a competitive team? What are everyone’s thoughts.
 

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I heard one of the baseball guys this morning say Monte wakes up at 5 am and checks the portal window immediately and checks it every hour until he goes to bed, so I would say they're on it!
 

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Per Collyn -

"Gamecocks have to replace over 71 percent of starts from last year, 66.7 percent of innings and 64.1 percent of strikeouts. Pitching going to be a very big emphasis in the portal the next few weeks."

You can be all over the portal all you want. The question is are there enough quality arms available, and will we outbid the competition for them.
 

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I was not impressed with the planning and preparation of our staff for the season and during the year for each series under Parker and hope that improves significantly with Williams.
 
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I'm sure the portal is a tricky route to obtain players, but think of where we would be without it! Not a pretty sight!

I did see a really nice MLB scouting report on Matthew Becker, very favorable!
 

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Exactly! We need 3-4 quality pitchers. Gonna be tough
We got a couple of good arms in the portal already. I’m not too concerned with that. I might be in the minority, but I think we need more quality bats in the lineup than arms.
 

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We got a couple of good arms in the portal already. I’m not too concerned with that. I might be in the minority, but I think we need more quality bats in the lineup than arms.
We have a guy with a 7.28 ERA, a guy with a 6.75 ERA, and a guy with a 4.26 ERA. Those first two give me great concern. We need better.

Chase Burns has gone to Wake. Karson Ligon has committed to MSU.
 

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We have a guy with a 7.28 ERA, a guy with a 6.75 ERA, and a guy with a 4.26 ERA. Those first two give me great concern. We need better.

Chase Burns has gone to Wake. Karson Ligon has committed to MSU.
Duffy is a 4.32 guy as well. In college baseball, if you're in the low 4s that's pretty good. Matt Williams is great as well...he'll get more out of those guys.
 

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Duffy is a 4.32 guy as well. In college baseball, if you're in the low 4s that's pretty good. Matt Williams is great as well...he'll get more out of those guys.
Duffy is going pro, from all projections. The 7.28 ERA guy came from Liberty, with Williams. Again, cause for concern.
 

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We got a couple of good arms in the portal already. I’m not too concerned with that. I might be in the minority, but I think we need more quality bats in the lineup than arms.
Well I think the coaches are concerned, and rightly so since we lost 2/3rds of our innings pitched from last season. Those couple arms are not enough to replace what we lost especially with 2 of em being projects
 
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Duffy is a 4.32 guy as well. In college baseball, if you're in the low 4s that's pretty good. Matt Williams is great as well...he'll get more out of those guys.
Duffy is gone and Williams has his work cut out for him if he intends on improving from on season
 

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Well I think the coaches are concerned, and rightly so since we lost 2/3rds of our innings pitched from last season. Those couple arms are not enough to replace what we lost especially with 2 of em being projects
I remember someone trying to explain away the high ERAs because they were "situational guys". Um...high ERAs in a situational setting means you aren't getting the job done.
 

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I remember someone trying to explain away the high ERAs because they were "situational guys". Um...high ERAs in a situational setting means you aren't getting the job done.
Yes and no. If you're a middle reliever you're typically coming into bad situations. So it's only natural that you're going to give up more runs than a starter or closer. You come in with bases loaded, throw one pitch for a base clearing double and get yanked, that does a number on your ERA.
 

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Yes and no. If you're a middle reliever you're typically coming into bad situations. So it's only natural that you're going to give up more runs than a starter or closer. You come in with bases loaded, throw one pitch for a base clearing double and get yanked, that does a number on your ERA.
Whatever runners are on base when the reliever comes in are not counted towards his era. If he inherited a bases loaded situation and gave up a grand slam, he is only responsible for one run against his era. Only the runners that he allows hits to
 

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Yes and no. If you're a middle reliever you're typically coming into bad situations. So it's only natural that you're going to give up more runs than a starter or closer. You come in with bases loaded, throw one pitch for a base clearing double and get yanked, that does a number on your ERA.
Those 3 runs are on the previous pitcher(s). He's not responsible for those guys being on base, ergo those runs are not charged to him. He is responsible for the guy who hit the double IF he scores.

Rule 9.16 charges each pitcher with runs scored by runners that pitcher put on base.
 

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Whatever runners are on base when the reliever comes in are not counted towards his era. Only the runners that he allows hits to
Was just typing this too.

I mean...if these guys have 6+ and 7+ ERAs in the ACC and Conference USA the SEC will eat them alive.
 
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I have heard good things about the kid from Liberty going back to 3 pitches and performing well in the summer league. Hopefully he’ll be able to contribute. The flip side to that is that his pitching coach at Liberty who wanted him using 2 pitches is now our pitching coach
 
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Whatever runners are on base when the reliever comes in are not counted towards his era. If he inherited a bases loaded situation and gave up a grand slam, he is only responsible for one run against his era. Only the runners that he allows hits to
Good lord...duh. Still doesn't change my belief that coming in mid relief is tough on the ERA than starting. Still coming into adverse situations, and only get 2-3 innings of work per appearance.
 

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Those 3 runs are on the previous pitcher(s). He's not responsible for those guys being on base, ergo those runs are not charged to him. He is responsible for the guy who hit the double IF he scores.

Rule 9.16 charges each pitcher with runs scored by runners that pitcher put on base.
Yeah, brain fart.
 

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Good lord...duh. Still doesn't change my belief that coming in mid relief is tough on the ERA than starting. Still coming into adverse situations, and only get 2-3 innings of work per appearance.
The whole game is generally adverse or difficult. Maybe more so on a closer just because of the finality, but otherwise a starter and a middle reliever both face adversity. At least with the reliever, he generally only has to dial it up for an inning or two vs a starter who has to go 5 or 6
 

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The whole game is generally adverse or difficult. Maybe more so on a closer just because of the finality, but otherwise a starter and a middle reliever both face adversity. At least with the reliever, he generally only has to dial it up for an inning or two vs a starter who has to go 5 or 6
I agree 100%. Just saying if a starter has a bad inning, he's generally got 5 innings to make up for it. If a reliever has a bad inning he's toast. We've all seen a guy come in and face 2 batters and get yanked. That doesn't happen to starters.
 
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If this thread is accurate on pitching we are done next year. What excuse does our HC use then? There are always injuries to add to this potential issue.
 
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Was just typing this too.

I mean...if these guys have 6+ and 7+ ERAs in the ACC and Conference USA the SEC will eat them alive.
You remember those pitchers from Penn University back in February? They handcuffed our batters. They were pretty good.
 
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You remember those pitchers from Penn University back in February? They handcuffed our batters. They were pretty good.
I remember. When you are geared up for SEC fastballs, it takes some time to adjust to the off speed and junk stuff.
 

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I am concerned, sure did lose a lot of our staff. I think Eli Jones will be our ACE, Becker will start on the weekend, but after that, we need a lot of young guys to step up!