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In his press conferecne yesterday Kalen Deboar was neither asked about nor did he address anything to do with the Carolina game. All questions dealt with what happened at Vanderbilt and on field attitude issues and what to do about defense. Not one word about our game coming up. If you throw in that they play Tenn after us, we may be catching them mentally trying to get past Vanderbilt to be ready for that game and therefore we may have the slightest of chances. Saban never let his teams look ahead or anything but something about the players comments and coach conference tells me they are looking at this weekend as anything but a scrimmage to fix issues and get ready for Tenn. If they choose not to take us serious and we can play like against Kentucky and LSU, we may actually have a chance.
I know it is wishful thinking but it is what is helping me to even want to watch the game Saturday.
 
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Wouldn't read too much into it. The bulk of Beamer's presser yesterday had to do with the Ole Miss game.
 
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Not buying this for one minute. The press corps may be interested what happened at the Vandy game, but I am very confident that during on field practice and team meetings there is laser focus on the upcoming game.
 
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PrestonyteParrot said:
Bama will be ready. The question is, will we be ready.
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This game may be an indicator of the climate there post-Saban. Granted, Saban never had a flop anywhere close to what they just had against Vandy, but if they did, you can bet your bottom dollar Saban would have them laser focused and firing on all cylinders in this game.
 
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PrestonyteParrot said:
If we were to beat Bama, DeBoer will have a tough road to hoe at Bama.
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I wouldn't say the Bama folk have turned on DeBoer...too early for that. But there is already a strong "this never would've happened under Saban" vibe percolating through the fan base.
 
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I4CtheFuture said:
I could be wrong but I saw a blurb on Youtube that when Saban lost to Louisiana-Monroe - it was during the time he was "rebuilding" Bama into a winner... That's the difference, IMHO, if true.... I don't care one way or the other.
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I still say losing to Monroe was a bigger flop than if he had lost to Vandy. I would pick Vandy to beat Monroe.
 
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Both teams have something to prove. Just worried, as we all should be, that we can’t score enough to stay in the game as last week. We’ll probably need special teams plays and trick plays, hopefully let’s not try them too early and have better ones to try than up the middle against a stacked defense.
 
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Gamecock Jacque said:
Saban lost to Louisiana-Monroe.
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I4CtheFuture said:
I could be wrong but I saw a blurb on Youtube that when Saban lost to Louisiana-Monroe - it was during the time he was "rebuilding" Bama into a winner... That's the difference, IMHO, if true.... I don't care one way or the other.
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Gamecock Jacque said:
I still say losing to Monroe was a bigger flop than if he had lost to Vandy. I would pick Vandy to beat Monroe.
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lol not even comparable situations at all. You have no grasp of context. That was Saban's first year and Bama had been in a mess for the better part of a decade. They only finished 7-6 that season. They were nothing even close to resembling the juggernaut they would quickly become under Saban. At that time, they were just a mediocre team, at best, and they had been mediocre for a decade, so it wasn't a seismic loss like the one to Vandy.

Saban took over a pretty bad team (understatement actually). DeBoer took over one of the most talented teams in the country that just played in the CFP last year and is expected to compete for the national title this year. In Saban's first year, the goal was making a bowl game, if that tells where they were as a program at the time. It was certainly notable when Bama lost to ULM but not seismic like the loss to Vandy was.

It's kind of like us crowing about beating Alabama in 2001 or 2004. Yeah, we won, but Bama wasn't Bama in those years.
 
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Beanerball said:
Both teams have something to prove. Just worried, as we all should be, that we can’t score enough to stay in the game as last week. We’ll probably need special teams plays and trick plays, hopefully let’s not try them too early and have better ones to try than up the middle against a stacked defense.
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If our offense hasn't made a drastic upgrade since last week we are doomed.
 
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PrestonyteParrot said:
If our offense hasn't made a drastic upgrade since last week we are doomed.
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We're in the same boat as last season, when we hoped from game to game that our OL would magically improve. When's the last time we ever fixed a major problem mid-season?
 
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18IsTheMan said:
lol not even comparable situations at all. You have no grasp of context. That was Saban's first year and Bama had been in a mess for the better part of a decade. They only finished 7-6 that season. They were nothing even close to resembling the juggernaut they would quickly become under Saban. At that time, they were just a mediocre team, at best, and they had been mediocre for a decade, so it wasn't a seismic loss like the one to Vandy.

Saban took over a pretty bad team (understatement actually). DeBoer took over one of the most talented teams in the country that just played in the CFP last year and is expected to compete for the national title this year. In Saban's first year, the goal was making a bowl game, if that tells where they were as a program at the time. It was certainly notable when Bama lost to ULM but not seismic like the loss to Vandy was.

It's kind of like us crowing about beating Alabama in 2001 or 2004. Yeah, we won, but Bama wasn't Bama in those years.
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Saban went 12-0 the next regular season and won the national championship the year after that. Those who cling to the idea that a coach needs 5 or 6 years to turn a program around ignore things like this.
 
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Piscis said:
Saban went 12-0 the next regular season and won the national championship the year after that. Those who cling to the idea that a coach needs 5 or 6 years to turn a program around ignore things like this.
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Well, Saban is an unrealistic standard. I don't think you can use the best coach ever as the measuring stick for average Joes. And, it's always going to be easier to generate a turnaround at a place like Bama than here. Of course, as the decade prior to his arrival showed, it still takes the right coach to do it.

I think our standard should probably be Spurrier. A great coach who still took 5-6 years to get things going here.
 
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Harvard Gamecock said:
Not buying this for one minute. The press corps may be interested what happened at the Vandy game, but I am very confident that during on field practice and team meetings there is laser focus on the upcoming game.
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And I'm highly confident that, unlike us, the BAMA coach was told on no uncertain terms the Vandy game was intolerable.
 
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18IsTheMan said:
Well, Saban is an unrealistic standard. I don't think you can use the best coach ever as the measuring stick for average Joes. And, it's always going to be easier to generate a turnaround at a place like Bama than here. Of course, as the decade prior to his arrival showed, it still takes the right coach to do it.

I think our standard should probably be Spurrier. A great coach who still took 5-6 years to get things going here.
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Being totally honest, if Spurrier doesn't catch recruiting lightning in a bottle for a couple years getting the #1 recruit in the country two years in a row along with Alshon and Shaw he would have likely been a good, not great, coach here. He would have won his 7 or 8 games a year like he did outside those few years but I don't think he would have had 10 win seasons very often. He also happened to peak when Tennessee, Georgia and UF were in down cycles. Once the talent from those couple of great recruiting classes moved on, Spurrier went down big time. He knew it was going to happen too. That is why he told Tanner he thought he was ready to retire.
 
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Blasphemy, they will be laser focused on game planning against the infamous Beamer ball.
 
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CCUIrmo said:
In his press conferecne yesterday Kalen Deboar was neither asked about nor did he address anything to do with the Carolina game. All questions dealt with what happened at Vanderbilt and on field attitude issues and what to do about defense. Not one word about our game coming up. If you throw in that they play Tenn after us, we may be catching them mentally trying to get past Vanderbilt to be ready for that game and therefore we may have the slightest of chances. Saban never let his teams look ahead or anything but something about the players comments and coach conference tells me they are looking at this weekend as anything but a scrimmage to fix issues and get ready for Tenn. If they choose not to take us serious and we can play like against Kentucky and LSU, we may actually have a chance.
I know it is wishful thinking but it is what is helping me to even want to watch the game Saturday.
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If we had a QB who could throw a pass and a WR who could catch, then maybe someone in the stands that could call some plays that are so familiar that the opposing cheerleaders know what's coming. It sure wouldn't hut to take some of those big guys sitting bench and let them try blocking, the ones on the field couldn't block my grandma, and she's dead! We can all put our bowl game clothes and dreams away this year. We may be able to beat Wofford, but we better fear VANDY!
 
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