Big ten seeds

[Sunshinedynomite 1]

my gut


125

• Suriano
• Hildebrandt
• Barnett
• Heinselman
• Schroeder
• Ayala
• DeAugustino
• McKee

133

• RBY
• DeSanto
• Byrd
• Foley
• Ragusin
• Hudkins
• Cannon
• Ramos

141

• Lee
• Eierman
• Rivera
• Red
• Micocci
• Bergeland
• D’Emilio
• Tal’Shahar

149

• Sasso
• Gomez
• Lovett
• Murin
• Van Brill
• Thomas
• Bartlett
• Kanzler

157

• Deakin
• Young
• Lewan
• Saldate
• Coleman
• Robb
• Model
• Berge
• 
  165
• Kharchla
• Marinelli
• Hamiti
• Amine
• Fish
• Lohrey
• Braunugel
• Edsell

174

• Starocci
• Massa
• Labriola
• Kemerer
• Smith
• O’reilly
• Nijenhuis
• McNally

184

• Brooks
• Amine
• Benz
• Romero
• Assad
• Malczewski
• Cochrane
• Poznanski

197

• Caffey
  
  
• Schultz
• Dean
• Brucki
• Warner
• Bulsak
• Penola
• Hoffman

285

• Steveson
• Paris
• Cassioppi
• Kerkvliet
• Davison
• Hillger
• Orndorff
• Lance

 

[Sunshinedynomite 1]

Edit Venz not Benz

also I switch Dean and Caffey- in the original

 

[LI Lion Bvdstf]

Sunshinedyno,
First , missed all you guys on this board and others. Even the grammar police and the I wrestled in high school so I know it all crew! Lmao ! Kidding!

Had some serious med l issues but I m just about back. Puts life in perspective. Wrestling has helped me get through this and following all the great comments on these boards has helped. Thank you all. I think I ve seen every college match wrestled this year and been following even more closely if that s possible. So one good thing came from it!

Back Just in time for the “ process” to complete itself in March!!!! Trust it and Cael! My Blue and White optimism only grows stronger this time of year. Regardless of where it leads. At the end of the day I guys will leave it all out there! Fight! This one will be close w the most variables I ve seen maybe ever! But I have no doubt Cael, the staff and team are up to it. So Let s Go! All in ! Support all our guys!

Thanks for doing those preseeds! It s a great place to start discussion / build up for the greatest 4 weeks in sports imo. Back in the day it was the EWL and no Cael was not the coach! Lol. But it got real!!!! Very real!!!!
I m glad you prefaced your preseeds w “ my gut” as I m sure you ll get many varied opinions including my own. But I must say you are in the ballpark in “most” weights! Tough job and well done!

Hope all of you have been Well! All the best! Sunny Abe keep the faith!
Sincerely , LI Lion Bev
Warning Long Ps -
Sunshinedyno ,
let s start w 285!? Rationale?
And Caffey 1? Also, I think it goes Barnett , Drew , Schroeder at 125. I think u r underselling Romero , I have him 3.

And who s this Berge kid for us at 157? Lol.I think he deserves the 14th seed! ( wink wink) . I like CStar s position . Kem s shoulder looked really bad yesterday? I hope he s ok. Agree w SeaBass at 3 but is he injured? Didn t wrestle vs Columbia after the Princeton match and looked like he tweaked that knee, looked serious but ?. Anyone have info? Would hate to miss an Eierman - SeaBass semi even if the Riddler is in his 8th yr of college?
Speaking of the Hawks( for all you Iowa guys on the board I say the following in fun not personal just wanna keep that rivalry going ! )
I ve enjoyed your teams: “ tough” perimeter wrestling , fleeing the mat and or push outs ?, The relentless pursuit of the spiral stall ride, The offense at 149 , 157 , 184, 197 is something to behold- breathtaking stuff, fans legendary role of yelling stalling w their fist up- do they actually watch the matches as their guys do nothing ( edit - that was harsh, they do go heavy on the head, wrestle out of bounds , slap and scream when about to be pinned And your coaches corner sideshow is unrivaled thankfully . so I apologize they don t “do nothing” )

Finally , in case anyone hadn t heard you have won more national titles! ( do not look at the scholarship allocation during this period however as there is nothing to see there - lol) Through all this I still kinda like the Brands brothers. They love their team and want to win as bad as we do! Their methods ? But whatever. It s just nice to see Iowa relevant again after an 11 or 12 year hiatus. So Good Luck Hawks. Gonna be a battle ! Bring it! Will be “ fun”!
I like our chances!
Let s Go !!!!! Trust in Cael.
Will post my preseeds this w end not that they matter or anyone cares.
Main thing - good health to all and be well.
Let s Go!!!!!

 

[LI Lion Bvdstf]

Is Murin hurt? I noticed he didn’t wrestle v Lovett. We know Iowa never ducks . So hoping Max is ok . After all , he s a Pennsylvania kid.

 

[El_Jefe]

Without deep diving, 2 things stand out:

197: Caffey lost to Beard and Wrobleski. Both were in Opens, not duals. That should at least be a tie breaker with Shultz for 1. If fully counted, then that should drop him below Dean too, despite the H2H.

285: Will be
1 Steveson
2 Cass (loss to Steveson, beat Kerk)
3 Kerk (loss to Cass, beat Parris)
4 Parris (losses to Steveson and Kerk)

 

[LI Lion Bvdstf]

First, I Defer to Jefe on all pre seeding!

But an imp. point imo . I m very confident in Berge at 157. Having said that. A higher seed is not necessarily better. 8 would be bad. Key is to avoid Deakin in quarters. After Young actually wrestled Robb last night I think the Big14 gets 6 spots allocated? Model to make 7 idk need someone better versed on this. So no Deakin in quarters is key. Makes a top 6 finish easier. Like to see him 10-12 or even 14th rather than 8 or 9. I believe in fate. And Berge s story only has one ending in my mind! But one step at a time. Qualify. After getting through a tournament scenario w the Wght descent , I like him vs anyone! Carr and Deakin are elite but why not. The rest! Bring em on. Brady great kid and family . Deserves the success! Let s Go!

 

[SonnyAbeFan]

First, I Defer to Jefe on all pre seeding!

But an imp. point imo . I m very confident in Berge at 157. Having said that. A higher seed is not necessarily better. 8 would be bad. Key is to avoid Deakin in quarters. After Young actually wrestled Robb last night I think the Big14 gets 6 spots allocated? Model to make 7 idk need someone better versed on this. So no Deakin in quarters is key. Makes a top 6 finish easier. Like to see him 10-12 or even 14th rather than 8 or 9. I believe in fate. And Berge s story only has one ending in my mind! But one step at a time. Qualify. After getting through a tournament scenario w the Wght descent , I like him vs anyone! Carr and Deakin are elite but why not. The rest! Bring em on. Brady great kid and family . Deserves the success! Let s Go!

Good to see you LI Lion!

What if Berge gets 8 seed, loses to Deakin and then works his way back to 3rd? 6 matches AND 3rd place? Best possible seed at Nationals?

 

[LI Lion Bvdstf]

Good to see you LI Lion!

What if Berge gets 8 seed, loses to Deakin and then works his way back to 3rd? 6 matches AND 3rd place? Best possible seed at Nationals?

Thanks Sonny!
I d take that. Certainly possible. But just focusing on Bigs. Other route lil easier imo. If he places high at Big14, he ll be fine regardless of seed at NCAAs. Yes want highest seed. But I m just focusing on 2 weeks from now. I think that s how Cael would approach it. Qualifying , peaking and conditioning . It s about how Berge performs and less about who he faces. He has the talent ! I think Carr favorite and Deakin right behind . The rest? I ll take Berge to make a deep deep run! It s his destiny. This is a comeback of epic proportions! If he were the protagonist in a novel , he d be on a redemption arc or trajectory . Something in me says we have a happy ending here! Very happy!!!!!

In general , health , our guys peaking in March , bonus and yes - seeding will win the day. So let s get it!

 

[watoos]

First, I Defer to Jefe on all pre seeding!

But an imp. point imo . I m very confident in Berge at 157. Having said that. A higher seed is not necessarily better. 8 would be bad. Key is to avoid Deakin in quarters. After Young actually wrestled Robb last night I think the Big14 gets 6 spots allocated? Model to make 7 idk need someone better versed on this. So no Deakin in quarters is key. Makes a top 6 finish easier. Like to see him 10-12 or even 14th rather than 8 or 9. I believe in fate. And Berge s story only has one ending in my mind! But one step at a time. Qualify. After getting through a tournament scenario w the Wght descent , I like him vs anyone! Carr and Deakin are elite but why not. The rest! Bring em on. Brady great kid and family . Deserves the success! Let s Go!

Model is ranked 29th, he just beat No. Iowa's Holschlag but lost to Cornell's #24 kid. Would be nice to see 7 allocations.

 

[El_Jefe]

Good to see you LI Lion!

What if Berge gets 8 seed, loses to Deakin and then works his way back to 3rd? 6 matches AND 3rd place? Best possible seed at Nationals?

Not to nitpick, but avoiding Deakin until the B10 finals woukd get him an even better NCAA seed, right?

Losing in the quarters is a riskier path by far. Must win the first 2 consi matches to reach top 6 -- that means 4 matches total on Day 1, with the last match vs the 4-5 loser. Certainly possible, but not recommended.

For reference: last year 24% of wrestlers in Consi Round 2 (the first match after losing in quarters) placed top 6. Only 4 of them finished top 4, and only 1 finished 3rd.

 

[LI Lion Bvdstf]

Jefe thanks . Great stats. Yes avoid Deakin in quarters at all costs and make a run. Yes if Berge makes finals ! all good and means the descent , conditioning fine and gets him highest seed . Then we ll take it to Deakin!

 

[Tryingtodoitright]

Sunshinedyno,
First , missed all you guys on this board and others. Even the grammar police and the I wrestled in high school so I know it all crew! Lmao ! Kidding!

Had some serious med l issues but I m just about back. Puts life in perspective. Wrestling has helped me get through this and following all the great comments on these boards has helped. Thank you all. I think I ve seen every college match wrestled this year and been following even more closely if that s possible. So one good thing came from it!

Back Just in time for the “ process” to complete itself in March!!!! Trust it and Cael! My Blue and White optimism only grows stronger this time of year. Regardless of where it leads. At the end of the day I guys will leave it all out there! Fight! This one will be close w the most variables I ve seen maybe ever! But I have no doubt Cael, the staff and team are up to it. So Let s Go! All in ! Support all our guys!

Thanks for doing those preseeds! It s a great place to start discussion / build up for the greatest 4 weeks in sports imo. Back in the day it was the EWL and no Cael was not the coach! Lol. But it got real!!!! Very real!!!!
I m glad you prefaced your preseeds w “ my gut” as I m sure you ll get many varied opinions including my own. But I must say you are in the ballpark in “most” weights! Tough job and well done!

Hope all of you have been Well! All the best! Sunny Abe keep the faith!
Sincerely , LI Lion Bev
Warning Long Ps -
Sunshinedyno ,
let s start w 285!? Rationale?
And Caffey 1? Also, I think it goes Barnett , Drew , Schroeder at 125. I think u r underselling Romero , I have him 3.

And who s this Berge kid for us at 157? Lol.I think he deserves the 14th seed! ( wink wink) . I like CStar s position . Kem s shoulder looked really bad yesterday? I hope he s ok. Agree w SeaBass at 3 but is he injured? Didn t wrestle vs Columbia after the Princeton match and looked like he tweaked that knee, looked serious but ?. Anyone have info? Would hate to miss an Eierman - SeaBass semi even if the Riddler is in his 8th yr of college?
Speaking of the Hawks( for all you Iowa guys on the board I say the following in fun not personal just wanna keep that rivalry going ! )
I ve enjoyed your teams: “ tough” perimeter wrestling , fleeing the mat and or push outs ?, The relentless pursuit of the spiral stall ride, The offense at 149 , 157 , 184, 197 is something to behold- breathtaking stuff, fans legendary role of yelling stalling w their fist up- do they actually watch the matches as their guys do nothing ( edit - that was harsh, they do go heavy on the head, wrestle out of bounds , slap and scream when about to be pinned And your coaches corner sideshow is unrivaled thankfully . so I apologize they don t “do nothing” )

Finally , in case anyone hadn t heard you have won more national titles! ( do not look at the scholarship allocation during this period however as there is nothing to see there - lol) Through all this I still kinda like the Brands brothers. They love their team and want to win as bad as we do! Their methods ? But whatever. It s just nice to see Iowa relevant again after an 11 or 12 year hiatus. So Good Luck Hawks. Gonna be a battle ! Bring it! Will be “ fun”!
I like our chances!
Let s Go !!!!! Trust in Cael.
Will post my preseeds this w end not that they matter or anyone cares.
Main thing - good health to all and be well.
Let s Go!!!!!

“Main thing - good health to all and be well.
Let’s Go!!!!!”
amen brother amen!!

 

[SonnyAbeFan]

Not to nitpick, but avoiding Deakin until the B10 finals woukd get him an even better NCAA seed, right?

Losing in the quarters is a riskier path by far. Must win the first 2 consi matches to reach top 6 -- that means 4 matches total on Day 1, with the last match vs the 4-5 loser. Certainly possible, but not recommended.

For reference: last year 24% of wrestlers in Consi Round 2 (the first match after losing in quarters) placed top 6. Only 4 of them finished top 4, and only 1 finished 3rd.

By all means, nitpick. I went back and read one of your previous responses: "If he places high enough, he's in, period. In which case, # matches does not matter." So the 8 match minimum only matters for at-large selection if he doesn't finish in the top 6 (or 7).

I am an enacting a new plan. I'm no longer believing, sharing, or commenting on what the Twitter "experts" say. I'm going to enjoy the matches, root hard, and go with the time-honored belief that winning matches solves all problems.

 

[WV lion]

By all means, nitpick. I went back and read one of your previous responses: "If he places high enough, he's in, period. In which case, # matches does not matter." So the 8 match minimum only matters for at-large selection if he doesn't finish in the top 6 (or 7).

I am an enacting a new plan. I'm no longer believing, sharing, or commenting on what the Twitter "experts" say. I'm going to enjoy the matches, root hard, and go with the time-honored belief that winning matches solves all problems.

If the big 10 has 6 allotted slots and he is in the top 6 he is in. The person who qualified the spot and was out of the top 6 has to then get an at large bid. It is a 5 match minimum for a coaches ranking, which would help a small portion with seeding at NCAA's

 

[Goldbanger]

By all means, nitpick. I went back and read one of your previous responses: "If he places high enough, he's in, period. In which case, # matches does not matter." So the 8 match minimum only matters for at-large selection if he doesn't finish in the top 6 (or 7).

I am an enacting a new plan. I'm no longer believing, sharing, or commenting on what the Twitter "experts" say. I'm going to enjoy the matches, root hard, and go with the time-honored belief that winning matches solves all problems.

Meritocracy? Say it ain't so!!

 

[AK1967]

What day do the official seed’s come out for the Big Ten tournament ?

 

[Tryingtodoitright]

slightly switching gears…points predictions for PSU vs Iowa only:->
B10 tournament.
125-psu 15 ia 11
133-psu 21 is 17
141-psu 22 ia 17
149-psu 10 ia 6
157-psu 10 ia 13
165-psu 8 ia 18
174-psu 21 ia 16
184-psu 21 ia 8
197-psu 20 ia 16
285-psu 13.5 ia 15
Psu 161
Ia 150
This Befseeding meeting

 

[Tryingtodoitright]

slightly switching gears…points predictions for PSU vs Iowa only:->
B10 tournament.
125-psu 15 ia 11
133-psu 21 is 17
141-psu 22 ia 17
149-psu 10 ia 6
157-psu 10 ia 13
165-psu 8 ia 18
174-psu 21 ia 16
184-psu 21 ia 8
197-psu 20 ia 16
285-psu 13.5 ia 15
Psu 161
Ia 150
This Befseeding meeting

*before seeding meeting.

 

[AK1967]

*before seeding meeting.

Lol. When is the seeding meeting ? Has to be this week.

 

[Tryingtodoitright]

Lol. When is the seeding meeting ? Has to be this week.

I’m not 100% positive but if not mistaken it’s either tomorrow Thursday the 24th or Friday This week.

 

[GregPickel]

I’m not 100% positive but if not mistaken it’s either tomorrow Thursday the 24th or Friday This week.

They have, in the past, come out four days or so before the tournament. I'm expecting Tuesday of next week.