I heard them talking about Kent Austin on 690 this morning in birmingham. Apparently he was on the other day and said something about certian Universities offering recruits without ever actually meeting them. The first thing that popped into my head was Ed Orgeron...who they talked about later in the show. It turns out by this time last year Orgeron had offered over 120 players. This in in contrast with Houston Nutt's 70 offers so far this year. Anyway, the point is coach Austin said he uses the blanket offers by other schools as a tool against them for recruiting. I don't know alot about the recruiting process, so my question is, Does Croom/MSU blanket offer recruits? I would think not, but we do fight with them in regards to recruits more often than any other school.
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I'd say Saban blanket recruits the highly rated guys like O did. Croom said himself a player has to be evaluated by the entire staff and then by him.</p>
we wait too long to offer recruits. Now you're implying Croom is lying about evaluating recruits?
I think Croom has been doing the blanket offer some this year in that he has offered a lot of high profile players. Not near the extent Coach O did. There is no harm no foul in the way Croom has done it to me because there are a lot of mid-level players that seem to be waiting on a MSU offer which Croom is passing out as they come open. The Coach O move was to offer everyone and quit calling the mid-level commit if something better came along. Some of the high profile kids have kept us warm and others have moved us off the list with their "bigger" offers coming. I think Croom was able to generate a lot of intrest with the Garrett commit early on.
I don't think anyone knows how many offers a team has given other than the coaches. The recruiting sites sure don't know. When you're relying largely on recruits to tell you where they have offers, it can get skewed. Reuben Corley from SP was reporting offers from every school that had sent him a letter. He even committed to Memphis even though Memphis hadn't sent him an offer letter. He had to decommit because they told him he didn't have an offer yet.
I do know that Orgeron offered a ton. How many? No one really knows. Saban takes a similar approach, though I think he makes a lot of his offers in the form of "We want you to be a part of the Alabama family" type wording. That way the recruit may think he has an offer, but in reality he doesn't. He does contact more recruits than just about anybody though, and I'm pretty sure he evaluates recruits before offering. I don't know any coach that offers without evaluating a player. Different coaches just choose different approaches to how to evaluate and offer and how many to evaluate and offer.
I do know that with Orgeron, he was a tape fiend. Not that it helped him a lot, but he loved evaluating tapes and loved to do it well in advance of everyone else. In fact, he evaluated tape so much that it probably was a detriment to other parts of his job. You know, like actual coaching and dealing with his current players. I also know that he wasn't in the practice of offering players he hadn't evaluated. That comes from an ESPN recruiting guy that visited our tent one weekend during the fall. He just offered a ton of guys, even a lot of guys he had a very slim chance of getting for the sole purpose of getting our name out there. Unfortunately for him, he wasn't winning enough to land his top fish in most cases, so he often ended up having to settle for a lot of grade risk prospects.
I do know that Orgeron offered a ton. How many? No one really knows. Saban takes a similar approach, though I think he makes a lot of his offers in the form of "We want you to be a part of the Alabama family" type wording. That way the recruit may think he has an offer, but in reality he doesn't. He does contact more recruits than just about anybody though, and I'm pretty sure he evaluates recruits before offering. I don't know any coach that offers without evaluating a player. Different coaches just choose different approaches to how to evaluate and offer and how many to evaluate and offer.
I do know that with Orgeron, he was a tape fiend. Not that it helped him a lot, but he loved evaluating tapes and loved to do it well in advance of everyone else. In fact, he evaluated tape so much that it probably was a detriment to other parts of his job. You know, like actual coaching and dealing with his current players. I also know that he wasn't in the practice of offering players he hadn't evaluated. That comes from an ESPN recruiting guy that visited our tent one weekend during the fall. He just offered a ton of guys, even a lot of guys he had a very slim chance of getting for the sole purpose of getting our name out there. Unfortunately for him, he wasn't winning enough to land his top fish in most cases, so he often ended up having to settle for a lot of grade risk prospects.
from the same cloth as far as recruiting (as opposed to coaching but Zook won in the Big Ten after getting run out of the SEC). As I recall, Croom started to offer more recently. It seems like somewhat of a trend.
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