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mcdawg22

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Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
A. 3-2. 5-0. 4-1. 8-0
B. 0-5 3-1 3-0 10-0
C. 2-1 4-2 7-1 5-1
 

mcdawg22

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Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
A. 3-2. 5-0. 4-1. 8-0
B. 0-5 3-1 3-0 10-0
C. 2-1 4-2 7-1 5-1
I think net is the biggest joke in the world.
As a reference the 30th net team is as follows
Q1 2-3 Q2 5-1 Q3 2-0 Q4 8-0
 

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So...are the results published tomorrow?
Curious who A and B are.
 

Lettuce

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Joe has us as a 10. We need 4 more wins for a lock. We could win 3 and two in the SEC tourney as long as 1 of the 3 wins were to be a W in collage station. IMO
 

HuntDawg

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South Carolina non conference SOS is 296. That’s why. They have more quad 4 games that any team inside the top 75.

also they have played a lot of games against the lower half of the sec. Mizzou twice, uga twice, vandy, etc

their last 7 games, they have 5 quad 1 games and a 6th that could turn into a quad 1. If they continue to win you’ll see that number jump.

that non conference SOS matters.
 
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mcdawg22

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South Carolina non conference SOS is 296. That’s why. They have more quad 4 games that any team inside the top 75.

also they have played a lot of games against the lower half of the sec. Mizzou twice, uga twice, vandy, etc

their last 7 games, they have 5 quad 1 games and a 6th that could turn into a quad 1. If they continue to win you’ll see that number jump.

that non conference SOS matters.
That’s not true, SC has 9, Gonzaga had 10 quad 4 games until it became 9 because of this dumbass metric. Grand Canyon has 11, they are one spot ahead of SC and lost to an SEC team on a neutral floor by 7, named SOUTH CAROLINA. Also with as many or more quad 4’s Indiana State, BYU, St Mary’s and Iowa State. All within the top 25.
 

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That’s not true, SC has 9, Gonzaga had 10 quad 4 games until it became 9 because of this dumbass metric. Grand Canyon has 11, they are one spot ahead of SC and lost to an SEC team on a neutral floor by 7, named SOUTH CAROLINA. Also with as many or more quad 4’s Indiana State, BYU, St Mary’s and Iowa State. All within the top 25.
I’m going straight down the rpi top 75

South Carolinas

11 quad 4 wins are the most of any team until you get to 79 in morehead state. Mcneese and Grand Canyon have also won 11.

if you go by net ratings:

Grand Canyon has 11 and is ranked 43. South Carolina would be tied for second inside the top 50 net rankings wise. With 9 quad 4 wins

again why they are ranked where they are in the metrics
 

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I’m going straight down the rpi top 75

South Carolinas

11 quad 4 wins are the most of any team until you get to 79 in morehead state. Mcneese and Grand Canyon have also won 11.

if you go by net ratings:

Grand Canyon has 11 and is ranked 43. South Carolina would be tied for second inside the top 50 net rankings wise. With 9 quad 4 wins

again why they are ranked where they are in the metrics
In terms of ranking teams, I care a lot more about what the quad 1 & 2 record is than how many quad 4 games they played. That said, it sounds like South Carolina went to the Mississippi State school if non conference scheduling & has only themselves to blame.
 

HuntDawg

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In terms of ranking teams, I care a lot more about what the quad 1 & 2 record is than how many quad 4 games they played. That said, it sounds like South Carolina went to the Mississippi State school if non conference scheduling & has only themselves to blame.
I think you’ve gotta see the entire season play out before you can get an accurate account of how net/rpi all works.

as stated 5 of South Carolinas last 7 are quad 1 games. They’ll have ample opportunities to move ahead of grand caynon and make their resume what they want it to be.

But when you have 21 wins and 11 of them are quad 4s. It’s hard to argue with why your rated metrically where you are, or what why you aren’t projected any higher seed wise
 
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patdog

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I think you’ve gotta see the entire season play out before you can get an accurate account of how net/rpi all works.

as stated 5 of South Carolinas last 7 are quad 1 games. They’ll have ample opportunities to move ahead of grand caynon and make their resume what they want it to be.

But when you have 21 wins and 11 of them are quad 4s. It’s hard to argue with why your rated metrically where you are, or what why you aren’t projected any higher seed wise
Here’s where the metric is flawed. Well, one way of many. For a top 50 team, there’s not much difference between a quad 3 vs quad 4 opponent. You should win both easily. But you’ll get a much higher ranking with a quad 3 heavy schedule. South Carolina has actually already played more quad 1 & 2 games than either of the other 2 teams, and has a better record in those games. Yet is ranked well behind both of them.
 

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Gonzaga picked up their first quad 1 win of the season yesterday winning at Kentucky. If Kentucky keeps losing, they won’t be a quad 1 opponent when we play them in Starkville. They are currently 25th and if they fall out of the top 25, that turns into a quad 2 game for us. Who would’ve thought that at the beginning of the season?
 

HuntDawg

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Here’s where the metric is flawed. Well, one way of many. For a top 50 team, there’s not much difference between a quad 3 vs quad 4 opponent. You should win both easily. But you’ll get a much higher ranking with a quad 3 heavy schedule. South Carolina has actually already played more quad 1 & 2 games than either of the other 2 teams, and has a better record in those games. Yet is ranked well behind both of them.
I haven’t dug that deep into it to see the stats on quad 3 as opposed to quad 4. However I’m pretty sure the quad 4s are the bads of the bads. Hence why the top 50 or whatever is as 404-4 going into the weekend against those teams.

I do know that Georgia at home was a quad 3 so was mizzou. Seems a little more plausible to lose those games than lose to Alabama am. and if that’s the case. I can see why you get rewarded for playing those games instead of the quad 4s.

end of the day. There is no reason why you shouldn’t schedule a tough non conference schedule and limit the quad 4 games. The benefits far outweigh the negatives
 

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end of the day. There is no reason why you shouldn’t schedule a tough non conference schedule and limit the quad 4 games. The benefits far outweigh the negatives
No doubt about this. It’s maddening when we do it (and we do it a lot), and it’s hard to feel sorry for South Carolina for their ranking. They have only themselves to blame.
 
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I think you’ve gotta see the entire season play out before you can get an accurate account of how net/rpi all works.

as stated 5 of South Carolinas last 7 are quad 1 games. They’ll have ample opportunities to move ahead of grand caynon and make their resume what they want it to be.

But when you have 21 wins and 11 of them are quad 4s. It’s hard to argue with why your rated metrically where you are, or what why you aren’t projected any higher seed wise
Zags are 19th in adjusted efficiency metric. SC is 45. If I’m reading KenPom correctly.
 
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