Bowers and Mims not playing in Orange Bowl

Hoganman1

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I guess this is unavoidable. Hopefully, the twelve team playoff will stop some of this "sitting out", but it will continue for teams that don't make the top twelve.
 

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16 starters for FSU out. Their QB that was going to start, Rodemaker, is in the portal. This is going to over by halftime. People may tune in early on just because of the controversy, but that won't last long.
 

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A lot of bowl games will become increasingly unimportant- let’s go ahead and expand playoffs to 16. Teams shouldn’t have buys anyway - unfair due to lack of similarities in schedules. Rewards teams with easier schedules.
 
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I guess this is unavoidable. Hopefully, the twelve team playoff will stop some of this "sitting out", but it will continue for teams that don't make the top twelve.
Yeah. think about it. When you expand the playoff, you only increase the number of teams who can argue they were unjustly excluded. How many teams not in the 4 team playoff could argue they should have been included? 2 maybe? Now how many will be able to make that argument when it expands to 12? A lot more.
 

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16 starters for FSU out. Their QB that was going to start, Rodemaker, is in the portal. This is going to over by halftime. People may tune in early on just because of the controversy, but that won't last long.
If I was a big time donor to a NIL deal I would expect players to play
 
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Yeah. think about it. When you expand the playoff, you only increase the number of teams who can argue they were unjustly excluded. How many teams not in the 4 team playoff could argue they should have been included? 2 maybe? Now how many will be able to make that argument when it expands to 12? A lot more.
Good point. March Madness includes 68 teams. Still, some teams claim they were treated unfairly.
 

Hoganman1

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College football is a sham.
Unfortunately, you are right. The portal and NIL are ruining the game. Conference re-alignment is a problem too. It's all about money. I hate that my two favorite sports, college football and professional golf, are imploding at the same time. Maybe Gordon Gekko from the 1987 movie WALL STREET was right "greed is good". I certainly hope not, but I appear to be in the minority these days.
 
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College football is a sham.
Exactly. Who in their right mind would pay for travel expenses and tickets to bowl games that the best players aren’t even going to be playing in? Not to mention spending money to support collectives so they can pay players who may not even play during the season much less in a bowl game
 
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Unfortunately it's dropping down into the h s ranks. I've enjoyed h s football over the years because I felt it was the only game left that $$$ had not corrupted. Then along came IMG and the likes and suddenly kids who local communities had supported and developed began bailing out of their hs for what had to be inducements, imo. The result is the local citizens, especially little league and middle school coaches, and who had developed them not getting to see the kid contribute to the local team and community. Incidentally, I've often what the academic standards are at those hs. want even mention hs basketball cause AAU did a number on that sport and I don't care that much for hs bb. The qb who committed to UGA and then flipped to Nebraska had attended 3 different hs finally landing at Buford hs in Georgia, a power in Ga. hs football. There are those who accuse Buford of recruiting players. It's sad. Enough rambling for an old man
 
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None of it makes sense. Time to overhaul things.
NIL deals need to have a "no opt out" provision. If the player decides to sit out a bowl game, or any game really unless the player is injured, the player should be required to return the NIL money. GT could tell the kids "When you sit out of a game you destroy a great deal of the good will with the public and you are paid for that good will".
 

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NIL deals need to have a "no opt out" provision. If the player decides to sit out a bowl game, or any game really unless the player is injured, the player should be required to return the NIL money. GT could tell the kids "When you sit out of a game you destroy a great deal of the good will with the public and you are paid for that good will".
They will just fake a injury
 
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Big JC

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They will just fake a injury
There would be some risk to that. Saying they couldn't play in a bowl game due to injury might affect the way the pros looked at them i.e. is he injured and how long lasting will the injury be? If the kid admitted he faked the injury to not play in the bowl game, the NFL might see character issues as they know he will lie about being injured and he might do that again in the NFL.
 

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Well, the Georgia fans should be proud. After choking against Alabama, they bounced back by beating a bunch of FSU freshman backups. I guess they proved they are clearly the 5th best team of 2023.
 

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Well, the Georgia fans should be proud. After choking against Alabama, they bounced back by beating a bunch of FSU freshman backups. I guess they proved they are clearly the 5th best team of 2023.
Georgia's backups beat the hell out of FSU in the second half and the FSU defense didn't have nearly as many opt outs as the offense. It's a bad look trying to diminish a major bowl win for someone else when your team didn't even play in a bowl.
 

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Georgia's backups beat the hell out of FSU in the second half and the FSU defense didn't have nearly as many opt outs as the offense. It's a bad look trying to diminish a major bowl win for someone else when your team didn't even play in a bowl.
You're right. That was a classless post. My mother went to FSU decades ago and I have a soft spot for them. I'm sure Kirby didn't run up the score intentionally. At UGAs talent level, their second and even third stringers are capable of beating most mid level P5 programs. My apologies to the board for letting my frustration boil over.
 

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After watching Ohio State and FSU flounder without their starting QB's - I respect the committee's decision on FSU even more. It was a very hard choice, but a team that hits the postseason without a quality starter (and actually a quality backup as well) just won't be one of the best teams out there. It was sad to watch their third stringers with absolutely no chance of success out there.