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Woof Man Jack

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With Cohen safely in house, what do you think is Byrne's next "do the right thing" move (sometimes called the anti-LT maneuver?)

Showing some love to Stans and the b'ball success wouldn't be a bad place to start.
 

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With Cohen safely in house, what do you think is Byrne's next "do the right thing" move (sometimes called the anti-LT maneuver?)

Showing some love to Stans and the b'ball success wouldn't be a bad place to start.
 

8dog

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do we have an athletic endowment to fund scholarships? Would a drive to start one be a good move? Would the Foundation be against it b/c they think it might take away some money they get?
 
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1. the "dude" is due for a significant facelift. there needs to be a plan in place to extend the chairbacks, add skyboxes, create a terrace in right field, etc. put a plan out there for the public to see, get an estimate, and see what kind of funds come in. it doesn't all have to be done at once. it's just good to have a plan, and it creates excitement.

2. sure, i'd like to see scott field expanded, but i don't see an logical reason to justify it. how many games have sold out since the latest expansion? it's already embarrassing to see 10K empty seats, and we have to rely heavily on visitor's fans to even come close to a full house. why add more?

3. a basketball practice facility is way down on my list, probably because it doesn't benefit me at all as a fan. i also have a hard time seeing how this could be justified. does the team really need it to get better, will it just be a recruiting tool, or do the players want somewhere to goof off without having to deal with other students? how much does the football team use the area in the shira fieldhouse? it's been years since i went in there, but isn't there about half a football field in there? couldn't some of that be converted to a basketball practice area now that we have the palmeiro center for football?
 

8dog

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"3. a basketball practice facility is way down on my list, probably because it doesn't benefit me at all as a fan. i also have a hard time seeing how this could be justified. does the team really need it to get better, will it just be a recruiting tool, or do the players want somewhere to goof off without having to deal with other students? how much does the football team use the area in the shira fieldhouse? it's been years since i went in there, but isn't there about half a football field in there? couldn't some of that be converted to a basketball practice area now that we have the palmeiro center for football? "

the team is a bunch of nomads in the fall looking for somewhere to practice. It is a huge need. And it also happens to be a great recruiting tool. This is should be first out of the things you listed.
 

8dog

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it makes no sense to renovate/expand DW or DNF before providing our basketball team with a practice facility.

I agree that we need a plan for DNF so that we can take the time renovating/expanding and do it the right way.
 

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should be tops on the list because it's good for MSU athletics. For me personally it falls behind DNF upgrades but I put baseball way above basketball. That's why Byrne will probably make a better AD than I ever would. As for the DWS expansion, I don't see a need for that until McCroomvy puts a few back to back winning seasons together. When we start having teams consistently ranked in the top 25 and a full house for all the games, then we can expand.
 

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I put baseball ahead of basketball too, but I put college baseball above all sports college or professional. Having said that I think it is time for the basketball to be rewarded for its moderate success. They have proven that they can get into postseason play on a consistent basis. A basketball practice facility should be the next improvement on campsus.
 

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especially about the terrace. LFL is the **** but something needs to be done to generate more interest amongst students, since many of them don't have a spot in the outfield or know anyone that does.
 

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Before the Cohen hire, I would have put Stans' recruiting ability as the best aspect of the big three state athletics. So, you gotta give the man more tools for his recruiting arsenal.

Of course, someone else will have to help him figure out what to do in there once it's built, but I digress.
 

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I agree. If we don't start the plan to build soon we will look up and be one of the only SEC schools without one. When it starts impacting recruiting and the on the court results, then it will be a priority for those who don't see it as one now. No need to wait for the problem to happen when you can address it now.
 

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expect to see Jack given "early" retirement and a big send off. Now that Byrne has his "balls", I don't expect status quo to get into his way of doing things we all know need to be done. And don't expect Jim Ellis to step right in.

Also expect the basketball facility to start getting pushed around for donations. Then West side to be converted to similar club level.
 

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actually I do expect Jim to step right in. He's looking to retire soon from his day to day responsibilities with the school and strictly do radio. The only reason I would expect him to retire from everything is if his heart continues to give him problems, but that seems corrected now. I know this because Jim and my Dad grew up together as best friends and still talk on the phone weekly.</p>
 

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say that the Men's basketball team has first priority to the Hump.

Let the women practice in the Sanderson Center "Auxillery Gym".

Let the intramural badminton team practice in the Sanderson Center swimming pool. We all know they need a bath anyway...
 

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Nothing against Ellis, but as we all saw with the Cohen hire, Byrne is not going to go with status quo. Hell, everyone thought Joe Dean, Jr. would be our AD and he's not. Had he, you would most likely have Raffo as the new baseball coach. Greg has worked at numerous universities and I don't expect him to bend to the good old boy network. I like Jim as a baseball announcer. I don't like the idea of him as a football announcer. I believe that Byrne will be looking for someone very colorful to fill that spot. Now, let's see how many of you still believe in Byrne should he shove Crystal out. I for one wouldn't mind a bit. Jack has served us well, but as with Polk, change is in the wind.
 

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I agree to look outside for coaches, but people like listening to someone they know and everyone knows Jim Ellis (his voice anyway). And I'll throw this out there, even though I shouldn't. I will not say when, but another SEC school has contacted Jim before to be there play by play guy for football and basketball. Jim declined because he likes that schools current radio guy plus he's a bulldog at heart. If he's good enough for another SEC school I would think he's good enough for us.

But, I don't know Greg so we will see.
 

shaschboy

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He's a yankee that came in the late 80's to the most "Southern" school there ever was. He took over for the legendary John Forney, who had suffered a stroke, but could still speak at that time equivelant to Jack today. All I'm saying is, we have all been on the "Byrne did fold to the Status Quo". I feel that we should go a new direction and bring in a much colorful radio announcer. But by all means, if we all disagree on this, can we at least agree that HANK FLICK MUST GO!
 

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I'm don't see Byrne as a scorched earth policy changer simply because he had the balls to go get us the best baseball coach available in lieu of rubber stamping Polk's recommendation.
 

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it will be another big splash and additional indicator of the vision Greg has to compete with the elite in all facets.</p>
 

Shmuley

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Is that you?

I think your prediction is a good call. The marketing focus and priority is pretty obvious when you consider Byrne's intentional inclusion of the "season ticket link" in the Cohen persser.
 

patdog

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Uh, no. Jack's going to retire when he's good and damn ready, no matter who the AD is.
 

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Another Bulldog FIRSTdown........yeah, we have a first down because the other team scored a TD and kicked it through the endzone after said TD. Way to pump up the crowd about that first down, Hank.
 

Spotdawg

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for baseball. His demeanor and sense of pace fit baseball on radio. He does a good job. Not GREAT. A good job.

For Football? Not so much. Jim comes across as a bored sideline reporter type....there is no electricity or conveyance of the energy of the game just a measured voice that is somewhat monotone. Just a deadpan "just the facts, ma'm" kinda delivery. (For a baseline on how to do it, see Jack Cristil for the first 40 years of his career.)

Listen around to the other big programs......your lead dog needs to be a little bombastic with a personality that is quickly evident in the first few moments that his voice hits your ears. When you hear it....you know it It's important . This is no small matter.

Having a background in radio/tv --this is a subject that I'm pretty passionate about. Replacing Jack Cristil will just about be impossible. But Jim Ellis in NOT the guy.
 

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Shouldn't your play-by-play guy be the measured voice? The color-man should be the one to bring "color" to the broadcast. He should be the one to have the major opinions and insight. The sideline reporter should be able to provide updates on the mood of the sideline, any injuries, angles of plays that were obscured from the booth. Jim isn't the one that needs to be replaced on the broadcast...just moved over one seat. John Corerro (sp?) should go.
 

Spotdawg

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the traditional Al Michael's play by play with color from his sides is one way of doing it (tired and played in my opinion.) You can do it that way, and most do. But let's face it, MNF ratings have fallen off the cliff......mainly because it is very rote and predictable. ABC was more than happy to let that tar-baby loose.

I really like the way that Jack carried the broadcast....he saw more and described more that the average booth guy should have.....and that's the reason that it will be so hard to replace him. At times I thought that Jim Ellis and John C. were in the way. I would just have soon listen to Jack do the whole game.

Shortening the long.....Jack will be VERY hard to replace, and there is no one that we have on board that can carry even 20% of the weight.

Tossedoff? Yeah, you are right, John C. may as well just jump up in the stands and continue drinking. He is horrible and adds nothing to the broadcast. I see a house cleaning when Jack decides that it's time.
 

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Except that it's not women's basketball or badmitton that use the hump, it's stupid little things like career fairs to find our graduates jobs and graduations to get our graduates graduated.
 

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or just selfish if you don't think that the next "to-do" on Byrne's list shouldn't be a men's practice facility.

And it isn't just other teams or students that use the Hump either. There was a kid's science fair on campus last school year.
 
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