Very simple question. I’ve not seen a single study that says they can’t. Bottom line, do stupid shlt, you get hurt, just like a 40 year old. How heavy depends on the person, in my view.
What does the pack think?
What does the pack think?
We did in Jr High (7th-8th) in the 90’s. Most of us were benching the bar but we got stronger.Very simple question. I’ve not seen a single study that says they can’t. Bottom line, do stupid shlt, you get hurt, just like a 40 year old. How heavy depends on the person, in my view.
What does the pack think?
Yes is my very simple answer.Very simple question. I’ve not seen a single study that says they can’t. Bottom line, do stupid shlt, you get hurt, just like a 40 year old. How heavy depends on the person, in my view.
What does the pack think?
Based on anything specific?Yes. Nothing heavy though until 9th grade.
Most important thing at that age is simply learning how to lift correctly and lift with repetition with mostly lighter weights until they’re acclimated to the weight training.Based on anything specific?
Reason I ask, my son is all on me to lift, and all I have is bro science that says you may stunt your growth because reasons from back when I was a kid in the. 90s. Why not heavy if they can handle it?
The bar… speak for yourself**We did in Jr High (7th-8th) in the 90’s. Most of us were benching the bar but we got stronger.
Now the bar lifts me. What a country!!The bar… speak for yourself**
The old school farmers will tell you they were throwing around all kinds of weight back in the day. And they weren’t lying. There’s an element of old man strength we are missing. Can’t put my finger on the secret sauce.As far as stunting your growth by lifting heavy at a young age, I’m not taking either side of the argument. But what I do advocate for is learning form at a young age and Immediately dropping weight if form is ever compromised. They got plenty of time to lift heavy 9-12th grade years.
Yeah it’s an interesting concept. Darren McFadden didn’t do a single squat at Arkansas, due to some injury. But then again he’s a freak athlete. I do think there are alternatives to just straight up, spine killing squats.Slight thread hijack, but I don’t understand why squats are still such a standard part of youth workouts. There are soooo many other good exercises for leg strength and explosiveness that don’t risk strain on lumbar vertebrae (box jumps, jump rope, hill sprints, stadium steps, stair climber, tire pulls, leg extensions, etc). And most of those provide extra cardio benefit as well. And squats require a bulky and relatively expensive set up as well. I’ve been working out regularly for 27-28 years now, and I’m not a stout guy but I’m at least as fast as I was in high school, and I haven’t touched a squat bar since then.
The old school farmers will tell you they were throwing around all kinds of weight back in the day. And they weren’t lying. There’s an element of old man strength we are missing. Can’t put my finger on the secret sauce.
It doesn’t hurt that you are built like JuggernautI’m not “old school” but yeah I know what you’re talking about.
I had osgood-schlater. The pain didn’t go away until my senior year of high school. I was so scared my knees were going to hurt like that for the rest of my life.No idea if it's factual or not, but I did a lot of lifting starting in 7th grade. And I went as heavy as I could. I developed osgood-schlater's by the 8th grade. I didn't play basketball, just baseball and football and the causes are lots of running and jumping or other repeated stresses to the ends of the growth plates on your legs. So at the time, the doctors blamed squats and leg presses.
It's a fairly benign condition, other than the bumps on the top of the shin/bottom of the knee was extremely tender and painful from about 8th-10th grade. I remember lightly bumping them on a bar/support under the cafeteria table in 9th grade a few times and it was more painful than if Daniel Larusso had crane kicked me in the nuts.
Is that why you have to go Driver Driver 3-Wood on an average Par 4?No idea if it's factual or not, but I did a lot of lifting starting in 7th grade. And I went as heavy as I could. I developed osgood-schlater's by the 8th grade. I didn't play basketball, just baseball and football and the causes are lots of running and jumping or other repeated stresses to the ends of the growth plates on your legs. So at the time, the doctors blamed squats and leg presses.
It's a fairly benign condition, other than the bumps on the top of the shin/bottom of the knee was extremely tender and painful from about 8th-10th grade. I remember lightly bumping them on a bar/support under the cafeteria table in 9th grade a few times and it was more painful than if Daniel Larusso had crane kicked me in the nuts.
It’s hard to break 1000 with bench and deadlift aloneSlight thread hijack, but I don’t understand why squats are still such a standard part of youth workouts. There are soooo many other good exercises for leg strength and explosiveness that don’t risk strain on lumbar vertebrae (box jumps, jump rope, hill sprints, stadium steps, stair climber, tire pulls, leg extensions, etc). And most of those provide extra cardio benefit as well. And squats require a bulky and relatively expensive set up as well. I’ve been working out regularly for 27-28 years now, and I’m not a stout guy but I’m at least as fast as I was in high school, and I haven’t touched a squat bar since then.
Safe lift is a trap bar deadlift, hexagonal bar With handles. get a horse mat for the garage floor and some 45 pound plates. I bought one for my son when he was in junior high. Much safer than a squat on your spine, you get combined benefits of a squat and a deadlift.Yeah it’s an interesting concept. Darren McFadden didn’t do a single squat at Arkansas, due to some injury. But then again he’s a freak athlete. I do think there are alternatives to just straight up, spine killing squats.
I do like dead lifts though
In 8th grade summer lifting (going into 9th) most of our linemen including myself were benching over 300lbsWe did in Jr High (7th-8th) in the 90’s. Most of us were benching the bar but we got stronger.
Full body work. It only takes a few muscles to bench. It takes the entire body to throw a hay bale up into a loft. So they get a lot more muscles worked in coordination with each other.The old school farmers will tell you they were throwing around all kinds of weight back in the day. And they weren’t lying. There’s an element of old man strength we are missing. Can’t put my finger on the secret sauce.
Lot of theories that men used to have a lot more testosterone back then. Basically because they worked all day doing what you say. Who knows the real reasoning, but I think the T part has some research behind it.Full body work. It only takes a few muscles to bench. It takes the entire body to throw a hay bale up into a loft. So they get a lot more muscles worked in coordination with each other.
Best explanation I have heard so far.
That’s great Al Bundy! I guess I should have clarified that day one of Jr High lifting everyone started with the bar unless they had already been lifting on their own. Some immediately started adding weight. Some didn’t.In 8th grade summer lifting (going into 9th) most of our linemen including myself were benching over 300lbs
Come on mane. In my hey day at the Sanderson I maxed at 275 one rep. Hard to believe an incoming 9th grader pumped 300. That’s a load.In 8th grade summer lifting (going into 9th) most of our linemen including myself were benching over 300lbs
It's not my fault you are a little manlet. But this was a few years before Sanderson broke ground. The team was lifting in a tin shack behind Hightower and Duggar.Come on mane. In my hey day at the Sanderson I maxed at 275 one rep. Hard to believe an incoming 9th grader pumped 300. That’s a load.
By the name of Scully?There's a medical doctor working out in my gym...