CFP Talk - Quarterfinals to Campus?

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It would ensure teams #1 - #4 host an on-campus game. It would also be easier on the fan bases.

Marcello says the CFB’s contracts with Bowls expires in a year.
 
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Probably have a bye team win once if that happens.
 

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This needs to happen. Ridiculous that #5-#8 get a home game and #1-#4 don't. Other thing that needs to happen is no guaranteed seeds for conference champions. Winning your conference gets you in the playoffs. It doesn't get you a seed.
The only pushback on this is that if you play in a conference title game and don’t get a bye, you are gonna have to play 17 games to win it all. Most of us are old enough to remember your bowl game being game 12. That’s gonna tax rosters injury-wise.
 

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The only pushback on this is that if you play in a conference title game and don’t get a bye, you are gonna have to play 17 games to win it all. Most of us are old enough to remember your bowl game being game 12. That’s gonna tax rosters injury-wise.
So, same position Texas, Penn St, Clemson & SMU were in this year then. Nobody cares how many games they play.
 
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The only pushback on this is that if you play in a conference title game and don’t get a bye, you are gonna have to play 17 games to win it all. Most of us are old enough to remember your bowl game being game 12. That’s gonna tax rosters injury-wise.
If conferences care about that, they can abolish their conference championship games.
 
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So, same position Texas, Penn St, Clemson & SMU were in this year then. Nobody cares how many games they play.
Sure. Let’s just track how long it is before a title game participant makes it to finals. Probably won’t take long, but so far it feels like an advantage for teams that can avoid that.
 
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If conferences care about that, they can abolish their conference championship games.
Exactly. Or they could go back to an 11-game schedule by elimination the I-AA game. Or an 8-team playoff (which is plenty). But they won’t because they don’t care. They’ll add an 18th game before they cut games.
 
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Sure. Let’s just track how long it is before a title game participant makes it to finals. Probably won’t take long, but so far it feels like an advantage for teams that can avoid that.
It’s a small & skewed sample this year. Georgia was hamstrung offensively with their QB out. Oregon had a tough rematch vs a team they were lucky to barely beat at home. ASU, SMU, Clemson should have never been in the playoffs to start with.
 
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If conferences care about that, they can abolish their conference championship games.
I feel like that’s the world we’re headed towards. The conference championship weekend throws the timing of all this off.

I’m not sure how people feel about on-campus games 12/17 - 12/31. Those early Dec weekends are valuable.
 
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I feel like that’s the world we’re headed towards. The conference championship weekend throws the timing of all this off.

I’m not sure how people feel about on-campus games 12/17 - 12/31. Those early Dec weekends are valuable.
Good luck getting SEC & Big 10 to forego the revenue their championship games generate. Heck, SEC is even beginning to float the idea of a 3rd place game between the #3 & #4 teams. Don’t know if that’ll ever happen but more games = more money so I wouldn’t bet against it.
 

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It would ensure teams #1 - #4 host an on-campus game. It would also be easier on the fan bases.

Marcello says the CFB’s contracts with Bowls expires in a year.
They're going to have to, I think. The truth is, fanbases cant afford to buy tickets and travel multiple weekends as a top seed with a chance at a Natty. If not, you'll start to see a bunch of playoff games loosely attended if certain fans think they have a legit shot to win it all and want to hold their many for the championship game
 
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They're going to have to, I think. The truth is, fanbases cant afford to buy tickets and travel multiple weekends as a top seed with a chance at a Natty. If not, you'll start to see a bunch of playoff games loosely attended if certain fans think they have a legit shot to win it all and want to hold their many for the championship game
I used to not think so, but we keep funding NIL, so maybe there’s more money than I realize. A nafoom poster said many years ago that college sports was recession proof. May be some truth to that.
 

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One thing I didn't think was right was the losers of the first round get left out of the bowl games while a 5-7 teams gets in. A play off game at an opponents stadium should not be your bowl game.
 

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This year’s SEC Championship game TV rating averaged 16.6 Million people.

The CFP First Round averaged 10.6 Million people.

The CFP Quarterfinals averaged 16.9 Million people.

The CFP Semifinals averaged 19.2 Million people.

The SEC Championship isn’t going anywhere. It soundly beat the First Round and essentially matched the Quarterfinals in average viewership.
 
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This year’s SEC Championship game TV rating averaged 16.6 Million people.

The CFP First Round averaged 10.6 Million people.

The CFP Quarterfinals averaged 16.9 Million people.

The CFP Semifinals averaged 19.2 Million people.

The SEC Championship isn’t going anywhere. It soundly beat the First Round and essentially matched the Quarterfinals in average viewership.
And the SEC gets 100% of the championship game revenue vs only 50% of the olayoff revenue. Not to mention it’s not either/or, the SEC gets 100% of the championship game money + 50% of the olayoff money. Championship games aren’t going anywhere.
 
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Hot take. There has been so many bowl/playoff games. The NC game is anti-climactic.

Yes, go to campus games for Qtr final but drop the playoff back to 8 teams
 

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I'm ok with this, but hey, offer 20,000 prime tickets to the opposing team, they are in the playoffs just like you are.
 

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Well, I would feel better about giving the top 4 seeds the home field advantage if they change the seeding process to make sure the top 4 seeds are the ones that deserve it. Top 4 should be the top 4 ranked teams.
 
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Hot take. There has been so many bowl/playoff games. The NC game is anti-climactic.

Yes, go to campus games for Qtr final but drop the playoff back to 8 teams
Once NFL playoffs start and men’s basketball gets well into conference play, college football kinda gets forgotten about if you’re not one of the fan bases involved
 
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Well, I would feel better about giving the top 4 seeds the home field advantage if they change the seeding process to make sure the top 4 seeds are the ones that deserve it. Top 4 should be the top 4 ranked teams.
Yep, Oregon, Boise St. and Arizona St, left quickly. Ga. hung around.
So much for seeding.
 

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I used to not think so, but we keep funding NIL, so maybe there’s more money than I realize. A nafoom poster said many years ago that college sports was recession proof. May be some truth to that.
While true, recession proof is very TV laden. Physical attendance still relies on a $50-$100 ticket to fill the upper deck
 

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Once NFL playoffs start and men’s basketball gets well into conference play, college football kinda gets forgotten about if you’re not one of the fan bases involved
Truth. That's why I think college football is missing a huge opportunity to get big eyes on the playoff, if they had a 16-teamer and everyone played over the course of a weekend or a few days, even if they overlap. And by everyone I mean all teams, not just bottom 8 seeds. Similar to the basketball tournament. Once these things start advancing, yeah, like you said, it becomes about the specific fanbases. I certainly did not stick around to watch say, Tennessee baseball, win the CWS last year.

I even think that regional weekend is the best for baseball, now that it's all on TV. It's awesome having a bunch of teams playing with something on the line. Bowls have continuously 17ed this up......the college football Saturday is such a big deal for a reason.
 

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Truth. That's why I think college football is missing a huge opportunity to get big eyes on the playoff, if they had a 16-teamer and everyone played over the course of a weekend or a few days. Similar to the basketball tournament. Once these things start advancing, yeah, like you said, it becomes about the specific fanbases.

I even think that regional weekend is the best for baseball, now that it's all on TV. It's awesome having a bunch of teams playing with something on the line. Bowls have continuously 17ed this up......the college football Saturday is such a big deal for a reason.
Actually they should have done the opposite. Only expand to 8 teams, and be finished Friday Jan. 10.
 
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Saw this today where the ACC is considering changing their conference championship format… which is kind of funny since you could make the argument that nobody benefitted more from having a championship game than the ACC. Looks like they are considering a lot of really bad options.

 
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Saw this today where the ACC is considering changing their conference championship format… which is kind of funny since you could make the argument that nobody benefitted more from having a championship game than the ACC. Looks like they are considering a lot of really bad options.

Looks like they want to protect their #1 team from a loss knocking them out (even though it didn't). But what are you going to do if 2 teams tie for the regular season championship and they didn't play each other? The "semi-final round" on the last weekend of the season sound good on the surface. But it would be completely unworkable. You'd have to cancel the last game of the season for those 4 teams (including potentially big rivalry games) and teams wouldn't find out who's hosting and where they're playing until a week before the games. And oh, that's Thanksgiving week too so arranging last minute travel for fans should be a breeze.
 
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I used to not think so, but we keep funding NIL, so maybe there’s more money than I realize. A nafoom poster said many years ago that college sports was recession proof. May be some truth to that.
Certainly college football — not sure about all college sports

Prostitution and alcohol are also recession proof. NIL is a form of prostitution and alcohol is now served at many college games.

Insert sarcasterisks as you deem fit
 
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