Chiefs DE Suspended for Having Guns in His Vehicle

[Cantdoitsal]

He was stupid to be driving without plates on his vehicle but I'm assuming one of the weapons was an AR-15 because of CA's "Assault Weapon" law. Considering standard semi-auto hunting rifles are just as lethal as AR-15's, I say this is BS. I don't know the complete story here but I'm thinkin' maybe he and a buddy just went somewhere out in the country to do some shootin'. He wasn't gang bangin' or out to hurt anyone and caused no one any harm. This seems to be the same sentence the NFL would dish out if he had targeted a player with clear intent to injure. Pure Politics by the NFL if you ask me and suspending him on this has no basis in logic and is 100% symbolic.

Chiefs DE Clark suspended two games by NFL

The NFL has suspended Chiefs defensive end Frank Clark for two games for violating the league's personal conduct policy.

www.espn.com

 

[FQDawg]

...I'm assuming...
...I don't know the complete story here...

I edited your post down to the salient points.

 

[Lettuce]

He was stupid to be driving without plates on his vehicle but I'm assuming one of the weapons was an AR-15 because of CA's "Assault Weapon" law. Considering standard semi-auto hunting rifles are just as lethal as AR-15's, I say this is BS. I don't know the complete story here but I'm thinkin' maybe he and a buddy just went somewhere out in the country to do some shootin'. He wasn't gang bangin' or out to hurt anyone and caused no one any harm. This seems to be the same sentence the NFL would dish out if he had targeted a player with clear intent to injure. Pure Politics by the NFL if you ask me and suspending him on this has no basis in logic and is 100% symbolic.

 

[Hugh's Burner Phone]

I hate there is no uniform reciprocity statute. A driver's license issued to me in MS is recognized across all 50 states the same as a marriage license. But I could be legally carrying a weapon on me or my vehicle and perfectly legal until I cross a line on a map and then I'm a criminal. Just odd to me that two privileges (marrying and driving) are recognized nationwide, but a Constitutional right is not.

 

[PooPopsBaldHead]

It was actually an Uzi and his second offense in less than a year. He was also previously arrested in college for stealing a laptop and on domestic abuse charges which I think disqualifies you from ever owning any guns in most states if convicted.

I'm completely okay with this guy never being allowed to touch a gun again without being put behind bars for a decade and kicked out of the NFL forever.

From his arrest in 2014:

The brothers said they saw Clark hitting their sister and one said Clark had her against a wall, grabbing her by the throat, picking her off the ground and slamming her down.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...11/17/frank-clark-michigan-football/19157491/

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/oklaho...le-book-and-ruin-a-texas-tech-onside-kick-202

 

[GloryDawg]

I hate there is no uniform reciprocity statute. A driver's license issued to me in MS is recognized across all 50 states the same as a marriage license. But I could be legally carrying a weapon on me or my vehicle and perfectly legal until I cross a line on a map and then I'm a criminal. Just odd to me that two privileges (marrying and driving) are recognized nationwide, but a Constitutional right is not.

There are reciprocity states with gun laws, but you better educate yourself before traveling with guns.

 

[Hugh's Burner Phone]

There are reciprocity states with gun laws, but you better educate yourself before traveling with guns.

That's the problem. Some states recognize your permit, but not others and those states change all the time. That is why I think it should be uniform across the US.

 

[Cantdoitsal]

It was actually an Uzi and his second offense in less than a year. He was also previously arrested in college for stealing a laptop and on domestic abuse charges which I think disqualifies you from ever owning any guns in most states if convicted.

I'm completely okay with this guy never being allowed to touch a gun again without being put behind bars for a decade and kicked out of the NFL forever.

From his arrest in 2014:

The brothers said they saw Clark hitting their sister and one said Clark had her against a wall, grabbing her by the throat, picking her off the ground and slamming her down.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...11/17/frank-clark-michigan-football/19157491/

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/oklaho...le-book-and-ruin-a-texas-tech-onside-kick-202

If he did this to a woman, then he should have done time. If the gun was fully automatic, it would have been more than a misdemeanor. Unless he's committed a crime with a gun, he shouldn't be stripped of his 2A Rights. But I also believe anyone who commits a crime with a gun should do SERIOUS time. But I'm also thinking I prolly should not have started this thread as I may have done so too hastily.

 

[Perd Hapley]

That's the problem. Some states recognize your permit, but not others and those states change all the time. That is why I think it should be uniform across the US.

Am I reading this correctly? A gun rights advocate requesting MORE federal intervention into gun laws? That’s certainly a new one.

 

[Hugh's Burner Phone]

Am I reading this correctly? A gun rights advocate requesting MORE federal intervention into gun laws? That’s certainly a new one.

Allowing freedom of movement is not more intervention. It's govt getting the Bell out of your way and letting people enjoy a constitutional right if they do choose.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Allowing freedom of movement is not more intervention. It's govt getting the Bell out of your way and letting people enjoy a constitutional right if they do choose.

I guess I just see it as one of those “be careful what you wish for” sort of things. Any federal policy regarding interstate transport is far more likely to be restrictive than permissive for most types of firearms. Hunting rifles and such maybe not so much, but everything else would potentially be highly regulated. As much of a PITA as it is to keep up with reciprocity laws, I think most gun advocates would prefer the current status quo with state level enforcement only over an unknown federal policy. I don’t really have an opinion on it either way as far as which is right vs. wrong, just how I would see it going down.

 

[fishwater99]

Saw two good ole boys the other day here in CO with a gun rack in the back window, had an AR hanging in it.
When I was growing up that's where we kept a rifle and shotgun, in case you need to take out a big ole buck!

 

[johnson86-1]

That's the problem. Some states recognize your permit, but not others and those states change all the time. That is why I think it should be uniform across the US.

The proposal I've seen that I like is that anybody that is licensed in one state cannot be subject to anything more than a misdemeanor in other states simply for possessing or transporting a gun in a way that they would be allowed to in their home state.

I'd be fine with doing something similar for weed possession if that made the politics easier.

 

[Pilgrimdawg]

I normally travel out West every year to hunt. Now days with various States having so many different gun laws it’s hard to keep up unless you do a detailed search on every State you will be driving through. I haven’t been stopped for anything so I don’t know if I will ever have any problems but I put my rifle in a hard case and lock it. Ammo is packed separately. Seems to me that should be appropriate in most any State.

 

[Boom Boom]

The proposal I've seen that I like is that anybody that is licensed in one state cannot be subject to anything more than a misdemeanor in other states simply for possessing or transporting a gun in a way that they would be allowed to in their home state.

I'd be fine with doing something similar for weed possession if that made the politics easier.

National regulation by "race-to-the-bottom" incentives to the states is a really bad idea.

 

[L4MANDW]

That's the problem. Some states recognize your permit, but not others and those states change all the time. That is why I think it should be uniform across the US.

USCCA got an app to help keep firearms owners informed on all states and reciprocity.