Clayton Moore?
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what's the reason behind MSU not offering Moore?
If you can't get into details, can you say whether or not it's an on-field related reason?
If you can't get into details, can you say whether or not it's an on-field related reason?
Thanks. I was curious if there was some particular back story that was going to keep MSU from offering, like maybe he slept with Carroll's g/f during a recruiting trip.
Any particular incidents, or just an overall cocky attitude?
Any particular incidents, or just an overall cocky attitude?
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and if he is good enough, that won't matter anyway. I have seen him play, and I would definitely offer him, at least for the 2nd QB slot.
That I'll agree with, though there are degrees of attitude. From what I heard Perilloux had a major attitude coming out of high school, and it has translated to his college career. It depends if the guy is just cocky because he's the big man on campus, or if it's something deeper than that. Cockiness can be knocked out of someone after a few weeks of practice in the SEC. A true attitude problem won't go away.
not that I doubt you. Rumors are encouraged obviously, and if one of the top QBs in Mississippi has off-field issues, it'd be good to hear about them.
Is he another Stephen Garcia (meaning big drunk, into drugs, going to constantly stay in trouble with the law) or is he a Greg Hardy (thinks he's above the team, doesn't listen to his coaches, plays the game on his own terms, etc.)?
Is he another Stephen Garcia (meaning big drunk, into drugs, going to constantly stay in trouble with the law) or is he a Greg Hardy (thinks he's above the team, doesn't listen to his coaches, plays the game on his own terms, etc.)?
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that is was a widely known fact that Perrilloux had a major tude problem in his JR & SR years of HS when everyone in the country was after him? If you are going to compare the two, you have to look at Perrilloux during his JR & SR years of HS and what was known.
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Yes I'm saying that, but he was such a freak talent-wise that teams overlooked it. He had a huge head and thought he was above everyone else. If I remember correctly, he not only predicted he'd start at LSU as a true freshman, but he predicted he'd win the Heisman as a true freshman. He definitely had an attitude and thought he was above everyone. But again, when you're that talented, people will still come after you because they will be willing to take a chance on you.
but that's about all I've ever heard. Regardless of attitude, he's picking up some pretty strong offers. I think we have not offered because we know we don't have shot. Probably wants to play somewhere that spreads the field and allows him to 'sling it' around.
To me, that is being cocky as hell. That type of **** usually gets knocked out of a self proclaimed bad *** by the coaches & upper classmen players during fall practice. I'm not talking about cocky. Being cocky is not a bad thing always. I'm talking about a major attitude problem that leads to problems off the field like Perrilloux has had.
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by making of an example out of the guy he made an example out of. Pure genius, you definitely proved your point that Perrilloux had a major attitude problem. Oh wait, that was our point.....
All I'm saying is that it was pretty evident during the recruiting process that Perilloux had an attitude. That's from what I heard. Obviously he was talented enough to still draw a lot of attention, but it was pretty well known that he had some attitude that needed to be beat out of him if he was going to be successful.
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well, except Cowtowndog, that Perrilloux ended up the way he did.
If I remember correctly, I think he trashed Russell and Flynn on Signing Day, saying how they both sucked the year before. Dude actually probably would've been better off at Texas, away from all his "friends". Would've been starting there as soon as Vince Young left.
If I remember correctly, I think he trashed Russell and Flynn on Signing Day, saying how they both sucked the year before. Dude actually probably would've been better off at Texas, away from all his "friends". Would've been starting there as soon as Vince Young left.
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distinctions of words in the English language.
From everything that I remember reading, Perrilloux was cocky as hell in HS. He thought he was the biggest bad *** to ever come along. However, there are plenty of players like that every year. What Perrilloux has proven since he got to LSU is that he has a severe attitude problem to go along with being cocky. His view of his greatness or importance extends beyond the football field into every aspect of his life and behavior to where he is of the opinion that he can do whatever the hell he wants and not pay the price for it. There are plenty of players that strut & act cocky & are bad *** types on the field that are generally respectful, decent, law abiding citizens off the field.
So, I agreed that Perrilloux was cocky as hell coming out of HS, but I did not say that he had a major tude problem, so I disagreed with what RB said. Do you understand the distinction yet? As it turns out, he did have a major tude problem, but it wasn't known at the time from what I remember.
To get back to the point which was Clayton Moore. Is he cocky as hell on the field, or is he known to have an attitude problem off the field in the rest of his life?</p>
From everything that I remember reading, Perrilloux was cocky as hell in HS. He thought he was the biggest bad *** to ever come along. However, there are plenty of players like that every year. What Perrilloux has proven since he got to LSU is that he has a severe attitude problem to go along with being cocky. His view of his greatness or importance extends beyond the football field into every aspect of his life and behavior to where he is of the opinion that he can do whatever the hell he wants and not pay the price for it. There are plenty of players that strut & act cocky & are bad *** types on the field that are generally respectful, decent, law abiding citizens off the field.
So, I agreed that Perrilloux was cocky as hell coming out of HS, but I did not say that he had a major tude problem, so I disagreed with what RB said. Do you understand the distinction yet? As it turns out, he did have a major tude problem, but it wasn't known at the time from what I remember.
To get back to the point which was Clayton Moore. Is he cocky as hell on the field, or is he known to have an attitude problem off the field in the rest of his life?</p>
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but the fact that we HAVE offered Henig II from small town Alabama, and have not offered a half-way talented guy 30 minutes away with State ties, has me worried.
I'd almost guarantee Moore plus whatever attitude he may have is better than Henig II.
I'd almost guarantee Moore plus whatever attitude he may have is better than Henig II.
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and now that I see what saddawg meant by 'attitude' it's all cleared up. But you still used a stupid example in Perrilloux, who is cocky and has trouble off the field. Hell I was even wrong about Perrilloux having an attitude, as per how it's used here, as in 'not a team player' and '*******'.
Brad Corley, Robert Jackson, etc. never got into any trouble off the field, but they def. have an attitude problem.
Brad Corley, Robert Jackson, etc. never got into any trouble off the field, but they def. have an attitude problem.
Croom's QB recruiting? I don't understand it either. Especially when there was a SR in HS this year in MS that threw 39 TDs this season and 96 for a career that would have crawled on glass to play at State. He's bigger than the kid from Bama and Henig too. Not to mention Greenlee from JA a couple of years back.
I agree completely now. From what I remember reading about him while in HS, he was known to be cocky, but not known to be trouble off the field.
There can be variations in what constitutes attitude problems. Jackson & Corley were *** holes & non team players on the field. Same with Tommy Kelly. Perrilloux, Dontae Walker, and now Brown & Wesley have been shown to have attitude problems off the field.
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