Clemson should truly be ashamed of their schedule

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The mighty tiggers open the season with Georgia Tech in Atlanta, then home against Furman, FURMAN FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!, and then have LA TECH at home before going to Wake Forest in week 4. How those inbreds can point to their record with any pride is completely beyond me.
 

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Yes heard the commentators during the game mention year end and year out they have one of the toughest schedules in the country. I like Wha...
However, until we have enough to beat all those teams too, what can you say. Would we have beaten Ga Tech?

I am not so sure. Next week will tell us all we need to know for the rest of the year. I suspect it will be another year of Gamecock football full of heart break, disgust, and tiny glimmers of Hope. But mostly Heart Break. The North Carolina game is like making a birdy on 18. Starts making you think we got something figured out. I just remember Joyner so sweetly leading the backs during that game with flare passes right in stride and them having space to move.
 

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Hard to throw stones about Clemson playing Furman, while we have Charlotte and SC State on the schedule.
The mighty tiggers open the season with Georgia Tech in Atlanta, then home against Furman, FURMAN FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!, and then have LA TECH at home before going to Wake Forest in week 4. How those inbreds can point to their record with any pride is completely beyond me.
Hard to call out Clemson playing Furman, while we have Charlotte, and SC State on our schedule.
(Yeah, I know we play a SEC schedule......)
 
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The mighty tiggers open the season with Georgia Tech in Atlanta, then home against Furman, FURMAN FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!, and then have LA TECH at home before going to Wake Forest in week 4. How those inbreds can point to their record with any pride is completely beyond me.
Wake won 11 games last year
 
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The mighty tiggers open the season with Georgia Tech in Atlanta, then home against Furman, FURMAN FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!, and then have LA TECH at home before going to Wake Forest in week 4. How those inbreds can point to their record with any pride is completely beyond me.
Why? It's a road that has lead them to the promise land.
 

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Hard to throw stones about Clemson playing Furman, while we have Charlotte and SC State on the schedule.

Hard to call out Clemson playing Furman, while we have Charlotte, and SC State on our schedule.
(Yeah, I know we play a SEC schedule......)
I dont understand this take. I have always felt your strategy with scheduling OOC games is directly relative to your conference schedule. Especially when you brag you are one of the elite programs. Their conference schedule is crap. They could beef up their SOS with the OOC games but at least this year chose not to. And whats worse, they typically arent punished for it in the polls. Though they did drop a spot after beating GT.
 

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I dont understand this take. I have always felt your strategy with scheduling OOC games is directly relative to your conference schedule. Especially when you brag you are one of the elite programs. Their conference schedule is crap. They could beef up their SOS with the OOC games but at least this year chose not to. And whats worse, they typically arent punished for it in the polls. Though they did drop a spot after beating GT.

I think ND will beef up their sos.
 
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Clemson OOC schedule always includes USC, 1 in state FCS team, 1 power 5 team (usually an SEC team, this year they travel to Notre Dame), and 1 additional home game. Their conference schedule is determined by the ACC. Some years their conference schedule is harder than others. This year they have 3 currently ranked teams out of 8 on their conference schedule. FSU may also be ranked by the time they play.
While this isn't the hardest schedule in the country, it is not an embarrassing one.
 

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I don't think P5 teams should be allowed to play FCS teams and if they are allowed to, the games should not count towards bowl eligibility. A program with Carolina's resources and talent should not play a team like Charlotte or SC State. It is the equivalent of a AAAAAA high school playing a AA high school. At the worst, P5 teams should play G5 teams, at least the programs are somewhat equal in terms of student population and program resources.

Playing FCS teams is the shortcut for mediocre P5 coaches to pad their win/loss records, become bowl eligible and keep from being fired.
 

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I don't think P5 teams should be allowed to play FCS teams and if they are allowed to, the games should not count towards bowl eligibility. A program with Carolina's resources and talent should not play a team like Charlotte or SC State. It is the equivalent of a AAAAAA high school playing a AA high school. At the worst, P5 teams should play G5 teams, at least the programs are somewhat equal in terms of student population and program resources.

Playing FCS teams is the shortcut for mediocre P5 coaches to pad their win/loss records, become bowl eligible and keep from being fired.
I can go along with your sentiment. I will grudgingly concede playing a in-state FCS team, but with that said there is little to nothing to be gained. If you win by a big margin "So what, you were supposed to", If it's close then questions start to percolate, and if heaven forbid one is to lose (Citadel) then all hell beaks loose.
And I haven't even mentioned injures.
 

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Clemson OOC schedule always includes USC, 1 in state FCS team, 1 power 5 team (usually an SEC team, this year they travel to Notre Dame), and 1 additional home game. Their conference schedule is determined by the ACC. Some years their conference schedule is harder than others. This year they have 3 currently ranked teams out of 8 on their conference schedule. FSU may also be ranked by the time they play.
While this isn't the hardest schedule in the country, it is not an embarrassing one.
I'm not sure I agree with this.
The ranked teams they face in the acc look awful. They may be ranked only because they are in the acc.
 

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I don't think P5 teams should be allowed to play FCS teams and if they are allowed to, the games should not count towards bowl eligibility. A program with Carolina's resources and talent should not play a team like Charlotte or SC State. It is the equivalent of a AAAAAA high school playing a AA high school. At the worst, P5 teams should play G5 teams, at least the programs are somewhat equal in terms of student population and program resources.

Playing FCS teams is the shortcut for mediocre P5 coaches to pad their win/loss records, become bowl eligible and keep from being fired.

I agree. I seem to remember many years ago that some teams did not count towards win totals when qualifying for bowls.

But I agree with the idea. It seems like the only benefit is the money that goes to the smaller school, and the fact that a return game is not required, so a home game is scheduled every year in that slot.
 
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Its true, Clemson should be ashamed to have USuck on their schedule every year. A bottom feeding SEC team isn't boosting anyone's schedule.
 

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Its true, Clemson should be ashamed to have USuck on their schedule every year. A bottom feeding SEC team isn't boosting anyone's schedule.
Maybe we should cut you some slack from all the anxiety you experienced over the weekend with your team playing mighty Furman.
 

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I hate Clemson as much as the next guy, but there's not a lot they can do about their schedule. It's not like they intentionally fill it up with weak teams. It's just a byproduct of being in a weak conference. They obviously have us as a permanent out-of-conference opponent, and we don't exactly help their strength-of-schedule. On the other hand, they bump ours up considerably.
 
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They do play 3 top 20 teams and always schedule a powerhouse OOC and us. Not their fault ND and UofSC aren't top 25 teams.
 

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That was one of the main reasons I was for expanded playoff and ACC tried to prevent it. They have loved the fact that they have one good team and are almost guaranteed(well not last year) to make the 4-team playoff. When they go to 12 at least they will have to beat 2-3 good teams. They have no shame, as the ends justifies the means to the ACC. Still, I would prefer 16 because they will stand a good chance of getting an undeserved bye due to their weak schedule.
 

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That was one of the main reasons I was for expanded playoff and ACC tried to prevent it. They have loved the fact that they have one good team and are almost guaranteed(well not last year) to make the 4-team playoff. When they go to 12 at least they will have to beat 2-3 good teams. They have no shame, as the ends justifies the means to the ACC. Still, I would prefer 16 because they will stand a good chance of getting an undeserved bye due to their weak schedule.
You are giving way too much credit for the ACC influence on the NCAA.
 
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The mighty tiggers open the season with Georgia Tech in Atlanta, then home against Furman, FURMAN FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!, and then have LA TECH at home before going to Wake Forest in week 4. How those inbreds can point to their record with any pride is completely beyond me.
Ya think!! Is there another FBS team that was scheduled to play two top 20 teams in their first three games, with one being the number 1 team in the country? Is there another FBS team who was scheduled to play 7 out of 12 of their games against top twenty teams? Any team that doesn't have this kind of schedule should be ashamed of themselves!! Talk about a tough schedule, it doesn't get much tougher than ours. So, keep your expectations in check.
 

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Ya think!! Is there another FBS team that was scheduled to play two top 20 teams in their first three games, with one being the number 1 team in the country? Is there another FBS team who was scheduled to play 7 out of 12 of their games against top twenty teams? Any team that doesn't have this kind of schedule should be ashamed of themselves!! Talk about a tough schedule, it doesn't get much tougher than ours. So, keep your expectations in check.
I must correct my previous statement. We play 7 top 25 teams, not top 20. I also want to add, even with the schedule I mentioned, Phil Steele has our scheduled rated as #17!!! He rates Vanderbilt at number 5!! None of his top 16 schools have 7 ranked opponents! What do you have to do to get some respect?
 

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" Would we have beaten Ga Tech?

I am not so sure. Next week will tell us all we need to know for the rest of the year. I suspect it will be another year of Gamecock football full of heart break, disgust, and tiny glimmers of Hope. But mostly Heart Break."
I'm a Clemson fan, but I think Carolina is good enough to beat GT. I don't think the Gamecocks looked sharp enough the first week to make me confident of that, but I think their play against Arkansas (which I think is a pretty good team), shows that Carolina has what it takes to beat a GT (who's offense isn't as good as Arkansas'). If there's heartbreak for SC this year, it will probably mostly be a function of the schedule being so tough more than anything - and maybe those early defensive injuries. But frankly, the Arkansas game showed Carolina on offense especially, to look plenty capable. They may need to try to hog the ball against some teams to give their D some rest, though.
 

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I'm a Clemson fan, but I think Carolina is good enough to beat GT. I don't think the Gamecocks looked sharp enough the first week to make me confident of that, but I think their play against Arkansas (which I think is a pretty good team), shows that Carolina has what it takes to beat a GT (who's offense isn't as good as Arkansas'). If there's heartbreak for SC this year, it will probably mostly be a function of the schedule being so tough more than anything - and maybe those early defensive injuries. But frankly, the Arkansas game showed Carolina on offense especially, to look plenty capable. They may need to try to hog the ball against some teams to give their D some rest, though.
lets hope their improvements are exponential every game. I wrote this before the ARKy game and went to see them play. Even O line pass protection was much improved. there are some good pieces on offense as well. Yes schedule is a nightmare
 

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Our primary concern should be avoiding getting smashed by them year after after. Then we can start discussing their weak schedule in greater detail.
 
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