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</span></font>John Cohen is a man who doesn't wait for things to come to him, an aggressive baseball coach who makes 1,000 decisions a game in the matter of seconds. He attacks the game in a way only the best know how.

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</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center"><font size="1">No one has done more for the Kentucky baseball program than Coach John Cohen but the Cats may have to fight off his alma mater to keep him this offseason.</font></td> </tr> </tbody> </table>And yet, the man may have to practice a tad bit of patience now that this blissful 2008 season comes to an end. The word around Southeastern Conference baseball circles - where passion for the game runs deeper than anywhere else - is John Cohen is going to have a decision to make that makes suicide squeeze bunting in the ninth inning look like child's play.

It's becoming increasingly clear that Cohen is going to get a call asking him to come home. The 42-year old architect of Kentucky's baseball renaissance would then have the toughest decision of his life - stay in Lexington and continue to build a national power and become a state hero or return to Mississippi State, his alma mater, and take over the coaching reins from his mentor Ron Polk.

Talk about a rock and a hard place. I certainly don't envy the man.

And Cohen knows it's coming. He's known since Polk announced his retirement before State traveled to Lexington in early April.

"It gets to me," Cohen told the Courier-Journal of Mississippi State at the time. "I grew up 80 miles from that campus. I went to school there. (I have) lots of friends and family there and people like to talk.

"Gosh, I think it's a compliment or a privilege for folks to even mention your name. I have so much respect for Ron Polk, it's such a pleasure to be around him. I look up to him so much. And quite frankly, Tommy Raffo, his assistant coach, is someone I consider to be one of my closest, dearest friends."

None of that changes the fact Cohen is - and should be - a top candidate for the job. Polk originally indicated Raffo would be his choice to follow him but rumors at the SEC Tournament had Raffo perhaps taking another league job. Oregon State coach Pat Casey was expected to be a candidate but he told local papers in Oregon he was not interested in heading to State.

That leaves Cohen as the heir apparent in such a chain of events. His work at UK, a place that has seen very little sustained success, has bordered on miraculous. He has won 173 games in five seasons at a winning percentage of .609. His teams are 118-45 at home, good for a .724 clip. He's turned in two of the program's four 40-win seasons and made two NCAA Tournaments.

Even by the lofty standards of the SEC those statistics are impressive. When you realize the Cats won just 44 percent of their games in the five years prior to his arrival, are a lifetime .612 team at home and do not have a single coach who lasted four years or more with a winning percentage higher than .535 and its downright amazing what Cohen has accomplished in such a short time.

It's what he lives and breathes for.

"Competing in the SEC, it's just a beast of a league," Cohen said last week. "I'm not ashamed to say that when I came here people doubted that Kentucky could ever be a factor in the Southeastern Conference and three out of the last three years we have been a factor in the most powerful league in the country. I'd like to think that us making a move in the SEC changes everyone's idea of Kentucky."

But how would the opinion of UK baseball change if Cohen were to pack up and leave? A new stadium is on the verge of being financed, the 2008 recruiting class is elite in status, fans are turning out in record numbers and interest is at an all-time high. Could UK afford to lose the one man who has made baseball relevant not only at the Commonwealth's flagship university but at Louisville and Western Kentucky as well?

That's the million-dollar question. Cohen and UK athletics director Mitch Barnhart met during the SEC Tournament and you can be sure Barnhart's message was something to the effect of "we'll do whatever we can to keep you" but he also knows even your best isn't always enough when people are calling you home. Put it this way, it wouldn't be all that different than Barnhart calling Arkansas coach John Pelphrey and asking him to become UK's basketball coach.

There is just something about going home that we all feel in the pit of our stomachs.

Here's hoping Cohen realizes what he's building at UK should he be forced into making a choice. You know what they say, it's always better to replace the man who replaces the man than to be the first guy and Polk is a living legend in Starkville. Would the pressure to succeed be too much? Does Cohen want to be his own man and become the Ron Polk of Kentucky?

They are all valid questions and ones that will finally force Cohen to practice a little patience. At least you would think.
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</span></font>John Cohen is a man who doesn't wait for things to come to him, an aggressive baseball coach who makes 1,000 decisions a game in the matter of seconds. He attacks the game in a way only the best know how.

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</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center"><font size="1">No one has done more for the Kentucky baseball program than Coach John Cohen but the Cats may have to fight off his alma mater to keep him this offseason.</font></td> </tr> </tbody> </table>And yet, the man may have to practice a tad bit of patience now that this blissful 2008 season comes to an end. The word around Southeastern Conference baseball circles - where passion for the game runs deeper than anywhere else - is John Cohen is going to have a decision to make that makes suicide squeeze bunting in the ninth inning look like child's play.

It's becoming increasingly clear that Cohen is going to get a call asking him to come home. The 42-year old architect of Kentucky's baseball renaissance would then have the toughest decision of his life - stay in Lexington and continue to build a national power and become a state hero or return to Mississippi State, his alma mater, and take over the coaching reins from his mentor Ron Polk.

Talk about a rock and a hard place. I certainly don't envy the man.

And Cohen knows it's coming. He's known since Polk announced his retirement before State traveled to Lexington in early April.

"It gets to me," Cohen told the Courier-Journal of Mississippi State at the time. "I grew up 80 miles from that campus. I went to school there. (I have) lots of friends and family there and people like to talk.

"Gosh, I think it's a compliment or a privilege for folks to even mention your name. I have so much respect for Ron Polk, it's such a pleasure to be around him. I look up to him so much. And quite frankly, Tommy Raffo, his assistant coach, is someone I consider to be one of my closest, dearest friends."

None of that changes the fact Cohen is - and should be - a top candidate for the job. Polk originally indicated Raffo would be his choice to follow him but rumors at the SEC Tournament had Raffo perhaps taking another league job. Oregon State coach Pat Casey was expected to be a candidate but he told local papers in Oregon he was not interested in heading to State.

That leaves Cohen as the heir apparent in such a chain of events. His work at UK, a place that has seen very little sustained success, has bordered on miraculous. He has won 173 games in five seasons at a winning percentage of .609. His teams are 118-45 at home, good for a .724 clip. He's turned in two of the program's four 40-win seasons and made two NCAA Tournaments.

Even by the lofty standards of the SEC those statistics are impressive. When you realize the Cats won just 44 percent of their games in the five years prior to his arrival, are a lifetime .612 team at home and do not have a single coach who lasted four years or more with a winning percentage higher than .535 and its downright amazing what Cohen has accomplished in such a short time.

It's what he lives and breathes for.

"Competing in the SEC, it's just a beast of a league," Cohen said last week. "I'm not ashamed to say that when I came here people doubted that Kentucky could ever be a factor in the Southeastern Conference and three out of the last three years we have been a factor in the most powerful league in the country. I'd like to think that us making a move in the SEC changes everyone's idea of Kentucky."

But how would the opinion of UK baseball change if Cohen were to pack up and leave? A new stadium is on the verge of being financed, the 2008 recruiting class is elite in status, fans are turning out in record numbers and interest is at an all-time high. Could UK afford to lose the one man who has made baseball relevant not only at the Commonwealth's flagship university but at Louisville and Western Kentucky as well?

That's the million-dollar question. Cohen and UK athletics director Mitch Barnhart met during the SEC Tournament and you can be sure Barnhart's message was something to the effect of "we'll do whatever we can to keep you" but he also knows even your best isn't always enough when people are calling you home. Put it this way, it wouldn't be all that different than Barnhart calling Arkansas coach John Pelphrey and asking him to become UK's basketball coach.

There is just something about going home that we all feel in the pit of our stomachs.

Here's hoping Cohen realizes what he's building at UK should he be forced into making a choice. You know what they say, it's always better to replace the man who replaces the man than to be the first guy and Polk is a living legend in Starkville. Would the pressure to succeed be too much? Does Cohen want to be his own man and become the Ron Polk of Kentucky?

They are all valid questions and ones that will finally force Cohen to practice a little patience. At least you would think.
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This isn't your typical replacing the Legend scenario. In this case the legend already retired once, came back and proceeded to have an extremely underwhelming tenure. Yes, the pressure will be higher here than at UK, but it's not like Cohen will be replacing Skip Bertman in 2001. It won't take that much to make MSU fans forget the second Polk tenure.</p>
 

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I think people greatly overestimate how much our fanbase looks at Polk and his "Legend" status.

I sincerely hope he comes.
 

Shmuley

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not even MState can [17] this up.

Make way for Cohen, mutha[17]ers.
 

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And by that, I mean what does he have to do to stay off the hot seat?

1) make the SEC tournament
2) get to the 1st round finals (whatever they call that just prior to supers) of the NCAA regionals

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Are those not high expectations?
 
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is that he has signed 5 of the top 50 players in the nation for next year. It would be hard to walk away from that. To me, being a baseball first guy, this is a no-brainer. Facilities-MSU, Fanbase-MSU, Baseball possibly being school's number 1 sport-MSU, salary-MSU, chance to coach him alma mater-MSU.
 

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those guys won't stay at UK forever. This is probably Cohen's only shot to come to MSU.
 

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and I'm going to try to be realistic are to have a winning season, and maybe even more importantly, to see an attitude change from our players. I want to see an improvement in fundamentals, pitching, hitting, baserunning and defense. If we do that, we should go to a Regional and the SEC Tournament. I put a Regional first because it actually might be easier to make a Regional than the Tournament.</p>
 

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is about what Mississippi did this year. Sneak into the SEC tournament and get a regional bid on the road.
 

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if Raffo doesn't work out, and Cohen continues to win, he'll get another shot at the State job.

I'm just the messenger. My source has been wrong before.
 

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I would consider having 5 top 50 players signed almost another reason to leave. He could tell the UK fans and administration with a straight face that he is leaving the program in good shape with the talent and the stadium expansion, he will always be grateful for UK giving him a chance, etc....but mama is calling and I am going home.
 

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This writer doesn't give a rat's *** about KY baseball, MSU baseball, or John Cohen. He's using the space to sneak his own personal agenda into the minds of KY fans and administration.

Put it this way, it wouldn't be all that different than Barnhart calling Arkansas coach John Pelphrey and asking him to become UK's basketball coach.
All the baseball stuff is just his smokescreen.
 

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futaba said:
if Raffo doesn't work out, and Cohen continues to win, he'll get another shot at the State job.

I'm just the messenger. My source has been wrong before.

</p>that it wouldnt have dragged out so long. If Tommy was going to be the guy, they would have said it so he could get going and move the program forward without wasting any time
 

futaba.79

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says that you are correct. However, based on what I've been told, my money is on Raffo.
 

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I won't tell Gene. (sarcasm)

I agree with coach. If Raffo is the guy we are going to hire anyway, go ahead and name him so that we don't waste time and give the sheep the "he had a late start." excuse when he <17>s up next year.

Also, explain this- if Raffo is the guy, then why did we call Casey?</p>
 

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The only way I see it not going to Cohen is if he still doesn't want to go against Polk's wishes. I don't think it would come to that but it could. If we must go another rout for 3 or 4 years to appease everyone then by God I hope it's Showalter and not Raffo.
 

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is that he'll end up being the guy, not that he IS the guy.

The Casey contact wasn't handled all that well.
 

Coach34

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if this turns out to be the case...we'll be looking for another coach again in 4 years
 

Todd4State

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and if Cohen turns us down, we probably would be better off going after someone like O'Conner than just say, well, **** Cohen didn't take it, go for it Tommy.

Besides all of the reasons that we listed here why Raffo shouldn't get the job, I'm pretty sure that there would be a lot of tension between Byrne and Raffo right off of the bat if Raffo were to get hired. That probably wouldn't be good. I could see Raffo accusing Byrne of sabotaging his tenure with things like accusations of lack of funds and etc.</p>
 

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If we hire Raffo we r (17)n the program.......surely the alumni is not that naive....X State players have told me that...................just my opinion
 

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Raffo will be so happy that he landed a $300,000+ SEC job that he'll be indebted to Byrne forever. For his part, Byrne wants to be a rising star in college athletics so this hire is critical. He NEEDs for whoever it is to succeed. Thus, whatever the new coach wants (within reason) he's likely to get.
 

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if Raffo gets the job and does a piss poor mediocre job he will probably still keep the job for years to come. That's one of the big reasons I don't want him to start with. Not much is demanded of our coaches in athletics anyway and baseball is now no exception. I personally don't see a lot of up-in-arms type attitude from our fans over our baseball program's continual slide downhill from the place we once occupied 15+ years ago. I see mostly acceptance with "well, it just ain't like it used to be" kind of attitudes using every excuse from disproportionate scholarships to the SEC is too tough to the NCAA is out to get us. If Raffo does end up with the job, and given its actually pretty hard for an SEC baseball team to have an overall losing record (you have to be really crappy), then I think we have him likely for quite some time to come.
 

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fans are showing their unhappiness by not showing up at games...having less than 2,000 at games, which we did a few times, is loud and clear to the administration. All the more reason for Raffo not to get the job
 

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a lot of people wanted Polk gone and could see what was happening, but felt like nothing could be done about it, and therefore you have acceptance. You also never knew when Polk would pull a CWS appearance out of his *** inexplicably which would make you think "Maybe he can turn this around, so you would have the how do you fire a guy who just went to Omaha? crowd. And then you have the Polk wrote the book crowd who thought he could do no wrong.

I think Raffo would have a pretty short leash. He is already an unpopular choice as it is. Plus, if we tried to fire him, I guarantee that Polk would do nothing about it. He kept his promise to Raffo, and that's all he cares about. Polk doesn't care about us. Plus, Raffo would probably keep McNickle and just promote Wade Hedges to hitting coach. That would be a hell of a staff. Then we know that our recruiting wouldn't be any good. It's going to be nearly impossible for Raffo to win over the fans unless we start going to Omaha every year. I think Raffo would be similar to Pat Harrison, but a lot worse.</p>
 
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