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[RobEStacy]

If I heard him right.. He said alot of the guys, are living off campus. What's your feelings about that. For Garrison I could understand that. Just curious what everyone's veiws on this is..

I have been out of the Military since 94..the 1 1/2 years I spent in training, I had 2 roommates the whole time. The bond we share because of that, has lasted all the way till today. Plus, wildcats lodge, gave them a shield. You had to buzz in and out.. They had someone making sure your not bring a bunch of people in. The school was able to monitor who was there... Was video evidence, protect the young men from he said, she said situations . Turning young kids loose with potentially millions, and first time on there own. Just sounds like a recipe for problems.

 

[BlueBlood96Cat]

I’m sure they still spend a ton of time at the lodge even the ones that have apartments

 

[Anon1755209580]

If they're adults, you kind of need to treat them as such and let them make their own decisions.

 

[chroix]

Things will never go back to how they were but there were a lot of structures in place that seemed like pains in the *** at the time but once they were removed have been shown to have actually made things better overall.

 

[Supafuzz75]

If I heard him right.. He said alot of the guys, are living off campus. What's your feelings about that. For Garrison I could understand that. Just curious what everyone's veiws on this is..

I have been out of the Military since 94..the 1 1/2 years I spent in training, I had 2 roommates the whole time. The bond we share because of that, has lasted all the way till today. Plus, wildcats lodge, gave them a shield. You had to buzz in and out.. They had someone making sure your not bring a bunch of people in. The school was able to monitor who was there... Was video evidence, protect the young men from he said, she said situations . Turning young kids loose with potentially millions, and first time on there own. Just sounds like a recipe for problems.

Was before nil waa involved but back in the 90s loads of football players lived at Downing Place Townhouses off of Wilson Downing Rd.. Anthony White and a few of the guys on offensive side lived straight in front of me.. Was lots of video games played,, cookouts and up in smoke too..

 

[kybassfan]

Welcome to semi professional basketball. They got money. Few if any contractual requirements. Some are 18. Let the good times roll.

Heaven help us. And them.

 

[yoshukai]

If I heard him right.. He said alot of the guys, are living off campus. What's your feelings about that. For Garrison I could understand that. Just curious what everyone's veiws on this is..

I have been out of the Military since 94..the 1 1/2 years I spent in training, I had 2 roommates the whole time. The bond we share because of that, has lasted all the way till today. Plus, wildcats lodge, gave them a shield. You had to buzz in and out.. They had someone making sure your not bring a bunch of people in. The school was able to monitor who was there... Was video evidence, protect the young men from he said, she said situations . Turning young kids loose with potentially millions, and first time on there own. Just sounds like a recipe for problems.

Don’t know if it’s true but last year I read that there were only 3 players living in Wildcat Lodge . Everyone else was off campus. Kinda surprised and saddened me .

 

[UKWildcats1987]

They have money now. Makes sense.

 

[Kentucky15]

And with these kinds of things will being about many problems that we’ll see as time rolls on. Bonds will 100% be weaker. We live in an area that tells us old wisdom is for fools and rules / structures are unnecessary.

And with his mindset we’ve seen societal rates of less favorable and negative categories go up across the board. Will choose to leave it alone here but the data is pretty clear the less structure we have in place the worse it becomes for people overall.

 

[Mike-D]

They'll still spend a lot of time together. It doesn't matter. Practice twice a day, food, team meetings, therapy, etc.

 

[Johnnie Africa]

And with these kinds of things will being about many problems that we’ll see as time rolls on. Bonds will 100% be weaker. We live in an area that tells us old wisdom is for fools and rules / structures are unnecessary.

And with his mindset we’ve seen societal rates of less favorable and negative categories go up across the board. Will choose to leave it alone here but the data is pretty clear the less structure we have in place the worse it becomes for people overall.

you sound like you’re advocating for a larger, more powerful government with more rules and regulations.

 

[Anon1755209580]

And with these kinds of things will being about many problems that we’ll see as time rolls on. Bonds will 100% be weaker. We live in an area that tells us old wisdom is for fools and rules / structures are unnecessary.

And with his mindset we’ve seen societal rates of less favorable and negative categories go up across the board. Will choose to leave it alone here but the data is pretty clear the less structure we have in place the worse it becomes for people overall.

Yes, young adult basketball players living off campus will likely bring about the apocalypse. I'm pretty sure that’s how the rapture starts!

 

[Kentucky15]

you sound like you’re advocating for a larger, more powerful government with more rules and regulations.

woah woah woah Ron. .

My little immigrant from Mehico to Africa….

I’m referring to how having fewer rules for kids like less discipline or fewer boundaries—can be detrimental to society, not advocating for big government or more state control. But the negative implications for them themselves and what they’ll miss being together, living together, and enjoying that lifestyle in their early years is pretty sad. Not to mention the positives that come from it from a sport standpoint.

You have a seat over there for a minute, speedy.

 

[Kentucky15]

Yes, young adult basketball players living off campus will likely bring about the apocalypse. I'm pretty sure that’s how the rapture starts!

Im searching for the post where someone made this claim because I know you wouldn’t strawman me like that.

 

[chroix]

Break out the Che shirts!

 

[travisbickle]

I didn’t hear the comment but I know Garrison has a kid and Chandler is married so I’m guessing that’s two right there.

 

[Johnnie Africa]

woah woah woah Ron. .

My little immigrant from Mehico to Africa….

I’m referring to how having fewer rules for kids like less discipline or fewer boundaries—can be detrimental to society, not advocating for big government or more state control. But the negative implications for them themselves and what they’ll miss being together, living together, and enjoying that lifestyle in their early years is pretty sad. Not to mention the positives that come from it from a sport standpoint.

You have a seat over there for a minute, speedy.

Ya I know just bustin’ your chops comrade!

 

[travisbickle]

They all might not live together but I read on Rob Bromley’s Discord that Pope invites them over to his place each week and they build a giant pillow fort in his basement and have a sleepover so I think the bond is tight.

Apparently ABIII does the whole flashlight under the face ghost story thing and scares the **** out of everyone.

 

[Kentucky15]

Ya I know just bustin’ your chops comrade!

you are my Rafiki wa mapambano! I know you didn’t mean it!

 

[Buckwheat Otay Is Dead]

JQ IS STILL A KID

 

[Kentucky15]

JQ IS STILL A KID

IM A MAN! I’m 40!

 

[Kentucky15]

I didn’t hear the comment but I know Garrison has a kid and Chandler is married so I’m guessing that’s two right there.

In Joe Hall’s day, having kids and being married meant no scholarship!

 

[BlueBlood96Cat]

In Joe Hall’s day, having kids and being married meant no scholarship!

I must say I’m glad that’s a thing of the past.

 

[mhs1964]

In Joe Hall’s day, having kids and being married meant no scholarship!

While I agree with you that kids need boundaries and structure there has always been a transition into adulthood. I’m not sure you are accurate about being married meant no scholarship. I seem to remember some of Rupp’s players being married. People got married at a younger age back then. Garrison was married last year and Chandler married this past summer.

 

[Kentucky15]

I must say I’m glad that’s a thing of the past.

Yea I think it was all well intentioned, and there were valid reasons for it, but I’m glad for that too. Guys like Joe B had a job which was to win, and outside distractions can be detrimental to that. At that time also having kids as a college basketball player meant things like babies out of wedlock which was societal taboo. Our culture itself often looked down on it and so public opinion was just different then.. They wanted kids who they could mold and have no distractions. I’m not going to say some of the reasons aren’t valid, however, they still deserve to have the same life as anyone else. I also think in their minds, at the time, they thought you need to work to provide because going pro wasn’t the way it was now. Most didn’t do that. But obviously stripping them of a chance to go to college and play simply because they have a child is not even a recognizable concept today.

IIRC A man named Donn who ended up playing for Murray was a beast in the state I was from during Joe’s tenure. My father had him scouted and gave UK a lot of tape and Kentucky inquired. When they found out he had a kid they said they couldn’t do it. So it was definitely a thing according to people I know. Maybe it was more to it than that but it’s what was always said. Donn would been a pro too but his knees went bad.

I would add that I do believe it’s possible they didn’t want to offer and might have used that as more of an excuse. Or maybe he was borderline UK material but having a kid in high school just made the decision easier to say no.

 

[Kentucky15]

While I agree with you that kids need boundaries and structure there has always been a transition into adulthood. I’m not sure you are accurate about being married meant no scholarship. I seem to remember some of Rupp’s players being married. People got married at a younger age back then. Garrison was married last year and Chandler married this past summer.

that’s what I was always told about it. I posted below more about the topic.

 

[akaukswoosh]

They'll still spend a lot of time together. It doesn't matter. Practice twice a day, food, team meetings, therapy, etc.

This.

 

[davtay]

Minniefield had a kid while at UK.

I think.

 

[TreyzAllDay]

Don’t know if it’s true but last year I read that there were only 3 players living in Wildcat Lodge . Everyone else was off campus. Kinda surprised and saddened me .

Yeah that sucks and cheapens the college experience imo. Wish they still all lived together!

 

[TreyzAllDay]

And with these kinds of things will being about many problems that we’ll see as time rolls on. Bonds will 100% be weaker. We live in an area that tells us old wisdom is for fools and rules / structures are unnecessary.

And with his mindset we’ve seen societal rates of less favorable and negative categories go up across the board. Will choose to leave it alone here but the data is pretty clear the less structure we have in place the worse it becomes for people overall.

Agreed 100%!!! Well said my friend.

 

[CELTICAT]

Minniefield had a kid while at UK.

I think.

I'd be willing to guess that since our championship in 1978, we've probably had 100+ children born to players while here.

Personally, I only lived on campus one year, my freshman year, when I was in college, and that was a long time ago now. Learning how to be an adult is a big part of process for almost the entire student body population, so not sure why the basketball team would be any different in this day and age.

 

[rick64]

NIL = much nicer living accommodations

 

[Goingfor9]

Was before nil waa involved but back in the 90s loads of football players lived at Downing Place Townhouses off of Wilson Downing Rd.. Anthony White and a few of the guys on offensive side lived straight in front of me.. Was lots of video games played,, cookouts and up in smoke too..

During the season?

 

[Goingfor9]

When Barney leaves the school should buy a mansion with additional residences on the property. Big enough for families and a mansion for the single dudes. One of those big homes out rates creek with a shuttle to the campus. Lol

seriously cal brought those young boys who needed to stay on campus. Pope is bringing in men who are taking breaks from changing diapers to go to practice.

 

[TX Wildcat]

Several that were off campus last year were in the same downtown complex. We had a "gameday" place as out-of-towners in the same building. OO was a few doors down and Jax was often outside with his dog. All were nice guys and typically quiet (even Kerr). We would often see them traveling in packs. Think it all comes down to team makeup. The '24-'25 Cats were no doubt a close nit group and appeared to take their jobs seriously. Where/how they lived did not impact that. If young men are being paid to be professionals, they should be able to live like them too. To be competitive in recruiting, we have to allow it (especially for 24yo 5th year Seniors and guys with wives/kids).

 

[Kentucky15]

Several that were off campus last year were in the same downtown complex. We had a "gameday" place as out-of-towners in the same building. OO was a few doors down and Jax was often outside with his dog. All were nice guys and typically quiet (even Kerr). We would often see them traveling in packs. Think it all comes down to team makeup. The '24-'25 Cats were no doubt a close nit group and appeared to take their jobs seriously. Where/how they lived did not impact that. If young men are being paid to be professionals, they should be able to live like them too. To be competitive in recruiting, we have to allow it (especially for 24yo 5th year Seniors and guys with wives/kids).

some groups might be a tight no matter where they live, but they absolutely cannot be as tight as they could be if they were all living together in the same environment for years. It’s not to say you can’t be a close group. But you aren’t going to touch the bond of living under the same roof for years. I played sports all through and when we stayed together we grew more of a bond. Had many instances in baseball where the guys that didn’t travel and stay with us were not as close as we were.

It will have an impact but to what degree depends on the time spend together during the day. If you didn’t live with your family under the same roof you might pull it off but you’re definitely not as close as you would be living together

not saying don’t allow it. Of course this is the age of “nothing matters anymore” but it will not be what it once was.

 

[BleedBlue63]

you sound like you’re advocating for a larger, more powerful government with more rules and regulations.

That’s what the orange man and his minions are exactly doing. Small government, PFFFFFT.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

you sound like you’re advocating for a larger, more powerful government with more rules and regulations.

No, there is a difference between rules for a job/team and structure than there is for the Government to spy on you and take away your freedoms and liberty. He is correct. The more lax structure becomes, the worse off groups of people become. Think about the military, a unit would fall apart or be way less close as brothers if they didn’t live in the same bunks, have the same benefits, eat the same food, etc..

 

[Kentucky15]

No, there is a difference between rules for a job/team and structure than there is for the Government to spy on you and take away your freedoms and liberty. He is correct. The more lax structure becomes, the worse off groups of people become. Think about the military, a unit would fall apart or be way less close as brothers if they didn’t live in the same bunks, have the same benefits, eat the same food, etc..

Ron is obviously advocating for anarchy.