Congress to address NCAA football
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Congress better not 17 it up. Any program smaller than us needs to go. And, if we should end up going to, it serves us right for making bad business decisions and investments.
Let the market do what the market will do. All that matters is the money generated by eyeballs on ads and butt in seats.
Let the market do what the market will do. All that matters is the money generated by eyeballs on ads and butt in seats.
Even in the NFL you can't jump from team to team. And there are salary caps, so everybody can compete on a reasonable level.
DO. NOT. WANT. THAT. TO. HAPPEN. Even if we made bad decisions.
College Athletics needs an anti-trust exemption from Congress similar to the one currently in place for the Major League Baseball
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The key sentence in the article
"Blumenthal said lawmakers are discussing a compromise measure to carve out a special status for college athletes to bargain collectively without having to become employees.
"That might be an option," Blumenthal said. "Enabling collective bargaining without employment status certainly has to be taken seriously. We're talking about a variety of different possibilities."
How does Walker Jones get into every article?
"Blumenthal said lawmakers are discussing a compromise measure to carve out a special status for college athletes to bargain collectively without having to become employees.
"That might be an option," Blumenthal said. "Enabling collective bargaining without employment status certainly has to be taken seriously. We're talking about a variety of different possibilities."
How does Walker Jones get into every article?
Not in this case. We actually need to new laws for any change to happen
The current situation is going to lead to smaller programs shutting down. Law makers must change the current situation to prevent that since it would hurt thousands of young people
But would it? Hell, I'm in no way confident that we need hundreds of college football teams around the country. Maybe I'm wrong.
It's forever wild to me how many Mississippi junior colleges play football and offer scholarships.
Blumenthal is a Dem Senator from Connecticut for 17 sake. what does he know about college football? Do we really want some non-employee players union? for college football?
adapt to free market football and survive
or die.
adapt to free market football and survive
or die.
We don't need hundreds of college football teams or even high school teams, but it's absurd that amateur athletics at the college level would be prohibited by law. That's not actually what the Supreme Court has said, but Kavanaugh had to be a jackass and strongly signal that he would rule it's an antitrust violation for the NCAA to have amateur athletics, and everybody understandably is scared of the antitrust liability if they tried to enforce any amateurism rules now.
Congress does need to pass a law stating when amateur athletics can be allowed without being subject to a suit for antitrust violations.
I wish they would do a law prohibiting professional sports leagues from having minimum age limits (so everybody can go professional as soon as they're good enough), allowing high school and colleges to have amateur athletics, make it legal for amateur high school and college athletes to take pay to play, provided they disclose it within 18 months of their last game at that respective level. Then make anybody involving in making or coordinating pay to play payments to amateur athletes personally liable for the value of any tax deductions taken for donations to the school involved for the year in which the payments were made.
Congratulations, student athletes.
A handful of elite athletes just traded your colonial institution overlords for a bunch of teamsters running your union.
Oh, and most of you won’t get employee benefits.
It's already 17ed up. It's going to eventually collapse if something isn't done. Fans hate what's going on, and that isn't good at all for the long run.
I'll fully acknowledge that you know way more than I do about this subject. I've pretty much taken the stance that I'll watch it play out with mild interest, but not get deep in the weeds.
32 team Super League where each NFL team uses a college program as a minor league academy. ATL & UGA, JAX & FSU, NO & LSU, DAL & UT, HOU & A&M, TB & UF, MIA & The U, etc. All the rest get sent down to lower, amateur division. Sounds crazy but what we have now sounded crazy 10 years ago.
Can we just fix the portal regarding immediate eligibility. This would allow schools that aren't blue bloods to be developmental schools again since the blue bloods would stop raiding if they know a kid has to sit for a year and kids couldn't bail and play immediately somewhere else when they get in their feels. Still allow exceptions for coaches leaving or other extenuating circumstances. That would be a great start.
Just a reminder: There's more parity than ever in college football. Lots to work out, but thinking we go back to the old ways is silly. Get the bargaining agreement and set a salary cap and enforce it.
It is interesting that when the article gets to how the ncaa curtails pay for play nil deals, Jones and the grove collective make an appearance.
Obviously he makes his stance well, he wants to find creative ways to pay their athletes more than anyone outside the framework.
This is why this system will never work. Unless congress gives the ncaa their power back to hammer those rogue collectives that make deals of pay for play.
Just wait Until the IRS starts collecting taxes from these Athletes that think they are getting FREE money!
Do you honestly think anyone associated with Mississippi State athletics would ever make bad decisions?
If these collectives are handing out 1099s. The athletes will get taxed. If the collectives are not, the collective will get investigate eventually. Also don't forget the agents.
Go easy on this. You’ll trigger those with Faux News derangement.
Speaking of the house settlement, so do the current players have any say in the plaintiffs agreement with the settlement? I assume no and just the plantiffs have to agree. The judge blesses and off we go.
However talking to my co-worker buddy whose kid plays in the acc. Talking to him about this stuff .... really exposes the entitlement of the players. He said in reference to the House settlement, "why would the current players agree to a salary cap and a nil ncaa clearing house? They can make more money with the current set up. Also we have an agent for nil."
So I fully expect current players to file suit if their nil is limited in any way. Even with the passing of the house settlement.
However talking to my co-worker buddy whose kid plays in the acc. Talking to him about this stuff .... really exposes the entitlement of the players. He said in reference to the House settlement, "why would the current players agree to a salary cap and a nil ncaa clearing house? They can make more money with the current set up. Also we have an agent for nil."
So I fully expect current players to file suit if their nil is limited in any way. Even with the passing of the house settlement.
NIL is crap show, transfer portal is even bigger crap show.
I have given up on college football. Someday, about 10 years or so, I might be back when they finally get their handle on the NIL. The playoff has been fun. I'm just talking about everyday college football that we all used to love and cherish.
Each football player gets paid 100k from the school.( Bama, Vandy, State, LSU all capped at 100k)
Players can get paid from business for ads or merch. ( ex. madden, jersey sales, speaking engagements, autographs, etc)
Said business can have no affiliation/endorsement with a certain school. Has to be a product or service.
ex-wheaties, health products, clothes, etc
You know… just getting paid for Name-Image-Likeness…. Not direct pay for play…
Players can get paid from business for ads or merch. ( ex. madden, jersey sales, speaking engagements, autographs, etc)
Said business can have no affiliation/endorsement with a certain school. Has to be a product or service.
ex-wheaties, health products, clothes, etc
You know… just getting paid for Name-Image-Likeness…. Not direct pay for play…
House v. NCAA is a class action suit with three different plaintiff classes. One if the classes is Every Division I athlete who competed or will compete between July 15, 2016 and July 15, 2025. So, every single current D1 athlete is a plaintiff.
I'm not real knowledgeable on class action cases, but every D1 athlete will have a window (90 days, I think) where they can opt in or opt out of the settlement or raise objections. That's a very short window, especially considering they won't have enough info to even see how the settlement works.
I think that if too many athletes opt out, then the settlement will be scuttled, but I don't know that for sure.
Future athletes will have to decide to opt in or out before they start playing, but at least they will have more info at their disposal.
Every athlete who opts in, including future athletes, is waiving any anti trust claims they may have against the NCAA regarding limits on compensation. So they will not be able to sue if their NIL deal is rejected.
I don't know what happens to players who opt out. In theory, they would have no right to revenue sharing...but I'm pretty sure the schools would give it to them anyway. I think their NIL deals would still be subject to the NIL clearinghouse, but they would be able to sue if they didn't like the results.
It is hard to imagine a player currently making 7 figures to opt in to a deal that threatens to limit that, even if you can convince them the deal is good for the future of all college athletes. But I dont know what percentage of athletes we're talking about. Most athletes will come out ahead financially.
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