I don't think I realized that USC is a private school. Also that Notre Dame is not an AAU school which seems strange. https://www.aau.edu/sites/default/files/AAU-Files/Who-We-Are/AAU-Member-List-Updated-2022.pdf
Current AAU member list.
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Neither is Nebraska.
Wasn't Nebraska an AAU member when the B10 offered?
I don't think so, but not 100% sure. Really - to what extent does the B1G leverage it's academic powers? Do affiliated schools do a lot of work together? I mean - more than they do with any other school(s)?
Yes and it was well-known that kNU was a dead man walking.
That's what I thought. I seem to remember them losing AAU status shortly after joining, which means everyone knew it was coming, and the B10 trumpeting the requirement was a complete farce.
More than they do with other schools No.
However, the Big Ten Academic Alliance does sponsor symposia so the opportunity for researchers to meet and exchange ideas does enhance the probability for cooperation. That said, there are bunches of these within STEM disciplines and the Big Ten meet-and-greet is not high on the pecking order if a deparment has limited resources to junket.
https://www.columbiamissourian.com/...cle_e93dccc6-ed16-11e5-9aa9-0312c0e2e5e6.html
This article describes the situation pretty well. Basically, Nebraska has their medical school at the Omaha campus rather than UNL, which doesn't help UNL's status. And, much of Nebraska's research is "agricultural," which isn't "considered as highly" by the AAU.
Basically, the AAU is a big club...and Nebraska ain't in it. There are probably a lot of other deserving schools that should be in it as well. As Perlman (Nebraska chancellor at the time) says in the article, “It’s a group of presidents who enjoy being a part of something exclusive."
This article describes the situation pretty well. Basically, Nebraska has their medical school at the Omaha campus rather than UNL, which doesn't help UNL's status. And, much of Nebraska's research is "agricultural," which isn't "considered as highly" by the AAU.
Basically, the AAU is a big club...and Nebraska ain't in it. There are probably a lot of other deserving schools that should be in it as well. As Perlman (Nebraska chancellor at the time) says in the article, “It’s a group of presidents who enjoy being a part of something exclusive."
As mentioned Nebraska was actually kicked out. The other four schools who who left the AAU have done so voluntarily (though arguably they saw the writing on the wall and just left before being removed).
Why does anybody mention AAU membership when discussing expanding Big 10 membership? It's like we are going to fill out our roster with guys working on their PhD theses. Nobody cares. The football players don't care. It's not like they are coming to Penn State to go to class, get and education and graduate. Most schools don't even require you to take the SAT anymore. Show me some playing time within a year or two and maybe some NIL money or it's goodbye. AAU...sheesh.
If AAU actually means anything, then CU and UW would be a good pair to join UCLA and SC, you gain two more big media markets and former Football powers, with this kind of $, could possibly be again.
I’ve always been lobbying for the B1G to look north and invite McGill & UToronto to expand their hockey presence and get the Québec and Toronto markets. They wouldn’t be the first Canadian colleges to join the NCAA as Simon Fraser moved from NAIA to NCAA DII several years ago.
because in the big picture, take the money made on football and add another ‘0’ or two, that represents research revenue.
The people who ultimate vote on these schools being invited/admitted are University Presidents and they do care about academics. Especially those in charge of Big Ten institutions.
This article also notes that Nebraska had been a member for 102 years by 2011. Where's Penn State's medical school? How much is PSU spending on agriculture, which is really fairly important, compared to other science programs. Makes me wonder how PSU survived AAU membership in 2012?
Penn State has a balanced research portfolio in terms of expenditures across the various disciplines compared to most schools. I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but Penn State spends more on engineering research than agriculture (probably a lot more).
PSU's medical school is part of PSU's numbers. Nebraska's medical school is considered part of Nebraska-Omaha (not Nebraska-Lincoln) and is not counted among Lincoln's expenditures.
And how does athletic affiliation increase research funding in a significant way?
NIH doesn't consider Nebraska's medical school as part on UN-Omaha. In fact, it's a separate entity.
So how is all of Pitt's research conducted at UPMC, a separate, private legal entity counted?
Ah, the Big Ten Collaborative for Football Helmet Research. Slipped my mind. Must have played without one for too long.Football helmet design to reduce concussions.
Maybe it's located in Hershey?
Pennsylvania State University College of Medicine (PSCOM), known simply as Penn State College of Medicine is the medical school of Penn State. While the main Penn State campus is in State College, this school is located in Hershey in order to align with Penn State Milton S. Hershey Medical Center and Penn State Children's Hospital, the medical school's principal affiliate. The medical school includes 26 basic science and clinical departments and a broad range of clinical programs conducted at its hospital affiliates and numerous ambulatory care sites in the region
The Big Ten schools work as an academic consortium in addition to sharing an athletic conference. They can combine resources in pursuit of grants.
https://btaa.org/
Right. ND has a relatively small graduate program. One reason my daughter is no longer a faculty member there.
Not only that but the Cap Hill political power from the states that these schools reside in is enormous...
Largely a purchasing combine, shared library resources, and limited cross-registration. Does sponsor symposia that allow academics to meet and exchange ideas, but they're not high on the hit parade.
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