Dabo not taking kid transferring to well.
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Terry Kinard was an All American at Clemson.
Terry Kinard is a big alum at Clemson. I would not dismiss this so lightly. Of course they will close ranks and deny anything negative up thar.
I call bologna on the story. Don’t care how we may feel about Dabo. None of that story fits with his personality. Probably just a legacy upset that his kid wasn’t coddled.
I have to agree. As much as I dislike Dabo and think he's a snake oil salesman - I can't see him harassing some third stringer for two straight practices.
Same here. If the kid had already told Dabo he was leaving, I doubt Dabo would have even had him at bowl practice.
They will close ranks around Dabo, but knowing Dabo's feelings about the transfer portal, this does not surprise me. First, a Dad's the first to know if his child can't play at a certain level. You may soft petal it to your child, but I wouldn't be surprised if Terry didn't encourage this transfer because he knows his son should probably be on the FCS level. Second, why does Dabo even care if a third stringer transfers out besides his personal issue about the Transfer Portal itself. This was a time for all parties to keep it classy and let the kid exit stage left with some dignity. Heck, the kid was going to hold his helmet anyway. What are you calling him out for with one game and couple practices left. I think Dabo's issue with the Transfer Portal may have got the best of him. No big deal. Terry probably should have let it go. You are never going to win an argument with a rabid fanbase even when you may think you are right. I get it. No one wants to have their child treated any kind of way. Both parties will move on and be fine.
Speaking, objectively, as a college football, fan and hater on the portal, I hope Dabo find success while avoiding use of the portal.
He is a guy who wants to transfer out, and from the sound of it is a second or third stringer who is crying about harsh treatment. If I were Dabo, he’s be lucky to get in the field to practice in the first place. Getting on the field for the bowl? Hah!
Not only a big alumnus. Kinard is considered the 2nd best player to ever play at Clemson. He is in their Ring of Honor and his name and number is emblazoned on the inside of the stadium. Still has the Clemson record for interceptions and tackles by a DB. While they are closing ranks, this will not be taken well by some of their older boosters and their other Ring of Honor members. Neff has to be pulling his hair out over how to handle this one.
Not is this case. Kinard was very forthright in his statement that his son was simply a scout team player. Kinard was a 2-time AA and high 1st round selection who knows the talent, or lack thereof, of his son. He was a walk-on.
He still has others who declared for the portal at practices.....difference is they are actually on the 2 deep and can help him win in the bowl game.
You realize that David Hood is the reporter that everyone in media knows that asked a prepared question that set up Dabo for the scripted “Rant”. Gamecock fans have short memories. This is why Clemson always wins the PR game. They’re relentless and have the media in the bag. We have Gamecock fans right here jumping to defend Dabo. Did y’all already forget the rant? Good Lord. Screw him.
I can tell you, it’s a total non-issue for the Clemson folks.
Asked a well-placed IPTAY donor if Dabo was in hot water. His response: “haha, no.”
Anyone who has ever had a coach knows its not all butterflies and rainbows. If my mom had ever heard some of my coaches she wouldn't have let me play sports ever again
It's a total non-issue for Clemson fans. However, the issue comes in when you want to have a Terry Kinard talk to a recruit now or donate money. That bridge needs to be mended because that well can become poisonous and divide the former players. Bad thing is this was totally avoidable. Why is Dabo saying anything to a third stringer that is about to leave. Being a father of an athlete, Kinard probably tried to get his son to play at a lower level. However, his son probably wanted to try and do what his father did and most fathers are going to at least let their sons try. Like I said earlier, this could have been a situation where you could let a kid fail gracefully. Just seems like a situation where Dabo took his portal frustrations out on a kid that he knew couldn't help him. If so, that sucks.
Kinard is in their Ring of Honor. I don't think this is the case.
Hard coaching is one thing. Taking potshots at a walk-on that you know can't help you win is another. Wonder if he took potshots at the walk-on kicker who missed field goals all year until the South Carolina game. Probably not.
Right. All-American in the 80's when football was a different game than this softer, 7 on 7ish version that we call football now. Kinard's coaches were Danny Ford, and Bill Parcells. So, he knows the difference between hard coaching and the BS.
You are not going to fire a two-time National Championship football coach over an issue with a scout team player. Why ask a question that you already know the answer to. The issue is you have one less former All-American in your corner when it comes time to recruit the next big time athlete. Also, it conflicts the former players when it comes to their support of the program. Do you support Clemson or your guy that you played with or know. This is not a fan issue. This is an internal issue in the program that you don't know how it's going to play until some time down the road.
Kids today never even heard of him. Kids only care about players they grew up watching
Uh, yeah, Kinard played at Clemson 42 years ago.
He may be revered by the Clemson faithful, but he's a total nobody to a high school recruit.
This is a great big nothingburger.
Yes. He played a long time ago, but the man's name is plastered all over the stadium. You can't tell me that doesn't matter. My son is a defensive back that plays in college. Having a former All-American defensive back talk to my son would have meant a lot if he were a P5 level player. It wouldn't matter how old he was. That 80's Clemson group is important. It's what made Clemson a National Brand. So, treat this like the normal fan and poo-poo it all you want. However, I know football and I know players. This is far from nothing. I wouldn't be surprised if Dabo has been forced to make a call (non-public) to mend fences.
Ask the average Clemson fan who is under 30 who Kinard is, and they probably wouldn't be able to tell you much about him, other than they've seen his name in the stadium.
How much recruiting clout does George Rogers have with running backs today? I'd venture almost none. A 60+ year old is as unknown to today's recruits as players from the 1940s were to the 1980s players.
Kinard is an alltimer at Clemson. If you have an alltime defense he's one of the safeties. That being said the cult couldn't throw him under the bus fast enough.
Again, Kinard played 40 years ago at Clemson. He is as relevant to their current team and current recruits as typewriters and rotary telephones. He is on the left in this photo. He was arrested in 2014 on prostitution charges. I seriously doubt anyone around the Clemson program is overly concerned about him being upset.
He is an all-timer, no doubt. He just played so long ago, his name doesn’t carry any clout.
Meh, today's kids don't know or care about Kinard. I'd venture 90+% of them aren't even aware of this whole episode.
It’s far more important to Gamecock folk than Clemson folk. They truly don’t give a rip about it. Gamecock folk are weirdly in a tizzy about it.
You seem to be carrying the water for Dabo here, big time. Have you forgotten “the rant”? Remember that, it was staged by a phony question David Hood posed to Dabo. The question, falsely attributed a quote made by Todd Ellis to Steve Spurrier. Now, you go ahead and take up for Dabo if you want.
It happens elsewhere too.
Angry Oklahoma Fans Tried to Sabotage Father of Outgoing Transfer’s Business With Bad Reviews — Sports Illustrated
Cayden Green transferred to Missouri earlier this week.
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