Is college athletics headed for The Great Split? 'We need to recreate or relaunch the NCAA'
With a looming reality due to several lawsuits, power conference schools may soon operate under a new governance structure. What would it look like?
If you make the cut, will still have to shift resources to include money to pay the athletes. Its why spending $35m on The Hump makes much more sense than $200m plus for a new arena.All the warning signs are there. People are putting their heads in the sand. There is a non-zero chance that many schools will be priced out of whatever the next iteration of the NCAA is. We'd be foolish not to consider ourselves at risk and prepare accordingly.
We should be trying to reduce sports if we can. Sounds harsh but we should only compete in those sports for which we are required to compete by conference rules or Title IX. Anything else needs to be dropped. We should be taking austerity measures now so that we can stay in the big leagues in Football, Men's Basketball & Baseball.If you make the cut, will still have to shift resources to include money to pay the athletes. Its why spending $35m on The Hump makes much more sense than $200m plus for a new arena.
Out of curiosity, which of the three men’s sports that you didn’t list are a huge drain on the budget?We should be trying to reduce sports if we can. Sounds harsh but we should only compete in those sports for which we are required to compete by conference rules or Title IX. Anything else needs to be dropped. We should be taking austerity measures now so that we can stay in the big leagues in Football, Men's Basketball & Baseball.
Not until we have to, but we have far less exposure than others in our conference.We should be trying to reduce sports if we can. Sounds harsh but we should only compete in those sports for which we are required to compete by conference rules or Title IX. Anything else needs to be dropped. We should be taking austerity measures now so that we can stay in the big leagues in Football, Men's Basketball & Baseball.
Will we have to compensate the participants of those sports? Even if we don't, we almost certainly will have to compensate the participants of the revenue generating sports. So that means there's less money to go around for everyone. We should be driving all the revenue we can legally drive back into the sports that keep the lights on. If we want to live in the neighborhood we're accustomed to, there are luxuries we'll have to go without.Out of curiosity, which of the three men’s sports that you didn’t list are a huge drain on the budget?
Current Men’s Sports
Football
Basketball
Baseball
Tennis
Golf
Track and Field
Current Women’s Sports
Basketball
Softball
Volleyball
Soccer
Golf
Tennis
Cross Country
Track and Field
Isn’t football the only sport that creates revenue? Maybe men’s basketball? Why would there be revenue sharing with athletes in sports that don’t earn a profit? Honest question.Will we have to compensate the participants of those sports? Even if we don't, we almost certainly will have to compensate the participants of the revenue generating sports. So that means there's less money to go around for everyone. We should be driving all the revenue we can legally drive back into the sports that keep the lights on. If we want to live in the neighborhood we're accustomed to, there are luxuries we'll have to go without.
Just put a random dollar figure on every athlete we have. Then subtract that from the athletic budget. Let's say it's 50K an athlete on top of the scholarship, room, board, etc. Will that cut our budget in half? by two thirds? I don't know, but I do know if we can see it coming and we aren't preparing we're idiots.
That's the rub. The wokes aren't going to like it when women's sports get cut because of this. But they were the ones clamoring for paying players when it was the "new plantation" or whatever. Well now that we have to compensate the athletes, that money has to come from somewhere and it isn't going to be as simple as, "well, don't pay the coaches as much." College sports is a business now but the people moving it that way didn't go to business school. The inevitable fall out would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.Isn’t football the only sport that creates revenue? Maybe men’s basketball? Why would there be revenue sharing with athletes in sports that don’t earn a profit? Honest question.
I expect the SEC & Big 10 will look pretty close to what they look like for 2024 until they can add a few ACC schools in the early 2030s.I’m worried this is where MSU gets screwed. Who knows what conference realignment might look like after all this.
Well said!That's the rub. The wokes aren't going to like it when women's sports get cut because of this. But they were the ones clamoring for paying players when it was the "new plantation" or whatever. Well now that we have to compensate the athletes, that money has to come from somewhere and it isn't going to be as simple as, "well, don't pay the coaches as much." College sports is a business now but the people moving it that way didn't go to business school. The inevitable fall out would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.
This seems to be where it is headed.32 Teams. 4 Eight Team Divisions
Iteration? Are you a Computer Scientist?All the warning signs are there. People are putting their heads in the sand. There is a non-zero chance that many schools will be priced out of whatever the next iteration of the NCAA is. We'd be foolish not to consider ourselves at risk and prepare accordingly.
Will college baseball make it? Maybe 10 teams in the nation turn a profit and not a large one.We should be trying to reduce sports if we can. Sounds harsh but we should only compete in those sports for which we are required to compete by conference rules or Title IX. Anything else needs to be dropped. We should be taking austerity measures now so that we can stay in the big leagues in Football, Men's Basketball & Baseball.
This is from the NCAA president’s mouth. Pretty significant. There won’t be a breakaway from the NCAA. It will be a reorganization.In the article it mentions “50-70 teams” that are a part of this new NCAA model which makes me feel very good about our prospects of being relevant
I See another problem. They are trying to give the players a cut but not have them become employees. So in they plan, they not only get the free education, room and board and a school supplied stipend, they get paid to play without having to pay employment taxes. How nice for them.Wonder if the roster size is about to be reduced? When players start cutting into the schools bottom lines as employees will the schools want to cut the fat?
We should be trying to reduce sports if we can. Sounds harsh but we should only compete in those sports for which we are required to compete by conference rules or Title IX. Anything else needs to be dropped. We should be taking austerity measures now so that we can stay in the big leagues in Football, Men's Basketball & Baseball.
Those minimums could very easily change in the reorganization. The money to pay players is going to come from somewhere, and the Big 10 AD is quoted as saying the effect on the "Olympic sports" would be "devastating" and "nuclear."We already sponsor the minimum number of sports required by the NCAA to be a D1 FBS member. There is nothing that can be dropped unless we want to drop down to D1 FCS
Yep. I've said consistently that this oncoming demise of everything we know is greatly overexaggerated by the overly negative mouth-breathers.This is from the NCAA president’s mouth. Pretty significant. There won’t be a breakaway from the NCAA. It will be a reorganization.
Sounds like we're in the same position.I wonder if schools like Maryland will enjoy a fat tv check and passing that along to athletes only to never win a conference championship and lose every single time to MI and OSU. While they eat bread crumbs in palatial offices financed from years gone by or.....say forget it all and dip out to a lesser status.
To be honest, I'd almost rather they did break off into a 32-team super league. We could be very competitive at the 2nd level against schools like Mississippi, Arkansas, Kentucky, South Carolina, Vandy, Missouri, and most of the ACC and Big 12.Sounds like we're in the same position.
Then if this is true they will be considered a self employee, and have to pay their own payroll/FICA taxes. Hire CPAs.. life is going to get real, quick.I See another problem. They are trying to give the players a cut but not have them become employees. So in they plan, they not only get the free education, room and board and a school supplied stipend, they get paid to play without having to pay employment taxes. How nice for them.
NFL has 14 team playoff in a 32 team league.Secondly, I do not see the evidence of the emergence of a smaller blue blood league. If there was, we would have stuck with the 4-team playoff. 12-teams is too many for a 32-team league. 12 is about right for an 80-team league or so.
Really? I mean really? This is your response? Do I have to explain to you that the NCAA is not the NFL? How about you compare to the rest of the actual NCAA?NFL has 14 team playoff in a 32 team league.
LOL, good Lord you are 17ing nuts.Really? I mean really? This is your response? Do I have to explain to you that the NCAA is not the NFL? How about you compare to the rest of the actual NCAA?
This is why we can't have decent discourse in this country. Some of the opinions are just asinine.
What’s your point? You clearly stated something wouldn’t work and the NFL, literally where everybody playing NCAA football is trying to get to, has 2 more teams in the post season than what you said wouldn’t work.Really? I mean really? This is your response? Do I have to explain to you that the NCAA is not the NFL? How about you compare to the rest of the actual NCAA?
This is why we can't have decent discourse in this country. Some of the opinions are just asinine.
The NFL is the NFL. Professional football business. It's a totally different animal than the NCAA. Literally nothing about it is the same except the fact that they play football.What’s your point? You clearly stated something wouldn’t work and the NFL, literally where everybody playing NCAA football is trying to get to, has 2 more teams in the post season than what you said wouldn’t work.
Or do you need somebody to explain it to you in a different way that you might understand?