Today here in North MS the diesel was cheaper than the unleaded regular. Can someone please explain that?
Walmart in OB $3.09 UL $2.97 D.
Walmart in OB $3.09 UL $2.97 D.
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Diesel Cheaper than Unleaded
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Not here (Starkville) $2.86 for 87 octane WalMart grocery, $3.47 for diesel. Prices from GasBuddy.
Edit: Checked Olive Branch and Murphy Oil was $2.67 for 87 octane and $2.95 diesel
Edit: Checked Olive Branch and Murphy Oil was $2.67 for 87 octane and $2.95 diesel
Just what I was about to say. Starkvegas hasn't gotten that memo. I wish they would, though. 34 gallons at $3.47 hurts like hell every week.
Diesel was usually cheaper when I was younger. Not sure why they have inversed presently.
A Comparison of Diesel and Gasoline in Consumer Automobiles
large.stanford.edu
They were de-coupled pretty strongly well into the 90s. But yes, you can usually blame Reagan and be correct.**
I'd have to ask at the office but We are exporting more gasoline (about 300,000 bpd more) now than we were a month ago and exporting less Diesel (63,000 bpd less).
U.S. Imports & Exports
www.eia.gov
What you have to remember is that since Obama lifted the 4 decade Export ban, the US, but especially in the south, are competing with other countries for refined products (i.e., gasoline and diesel). We keep our refineries going full blast and sell to Mexico, South America, Europe, and China.
The refiners will sell to whoever pays the best. We have an advantage in there are 2 MAJOR refined products pipelines running across south Mississippi, and that transport cost is cheap. ( it's also why Meridian and Collins should have the lowest gas prices in Mississippi, there are pumps and storage there). But, sometimes the price is better in mexico...
I know it started right after Katrina. That may have been pure coincidence, though. I'm not insinuating any link. I think that is also about the time that the low sulfur diesel became mandatory so I am sure that has had an input in gas prices. I remember in spring of 04 I drove up to SD to go turkey hunting. During that trip was the first time it cost me over $50 to fill my 34 gallon tank up. Now that is even half a tank. Not too long ago it was barely over a 1/4 tank.
Elections coming up soon. Enjoy the prices while you can.
The EPA lowered the allowable sulpher content in diesel fuel. That went into effect in the mid 2000s's. That is part of the equation.
2 yrs ago all our work trucks were diesel 2500’s. We have slowly traded them all for gas burners. Except for my truck. The gas burners have worked just as well and all the associated cost and fuel are cheaper. I’m never going back. If I could find my truck in a gas burner I’d switch today. Landscape and lawn care is the business. Our fuel cost have doubled since Biden took over.
Charging costs are ZERO nationwide for me in my 2017 Tesla Model S at any Tesla supercharging station.
Just sayin’
Just sayin’
You remind me of that Southpark Episode where EV Folk were so in love with themselves they sniffed their own farts.
For at least 25 years, the price at the pump has not been tied to who is in office.
Gas has been cheap under presidents and it has been expensive under the same presidents.
Some have come into office as gas was trending down and patted themselves on the back.
Some have come into office as gas trending up and been blamed for the increase, while also blaming prior admin.
Gas fluctuated like 70% under Clinton.
Gas fluctuated 380% under W Bush.
It was volatile under Obama and Trump.
Yada Yada. Gas prices are volatile as 17 and it's crazy to accept, but there are more factors than just who is in office for a brief handful of years.
Gas price hikes aren’t tied to who’s president
President Joe Biden has faced a lot of criticism from Republicans for the rise in gasoline prices since he took office.
www.politifact.com
Diesel prices went up starting in 2003 - 2004 when the single largest consumer of diesel in the world expanded into Iraq and Afghanistan- the United States Military. I am actually surprised they remained this high for as long as they have.
Man, we get it. The math worked. For you. The idea of it being the solution for the masses is not feasible.
I for years have thought the both the elevated cost of diesel and the EPA’s ridiculously stupid war against it as a passenger vehicle engine fuel was linked to national security. The refineries here are tooled to extract more gasoline than diesel for several reasons. If an already tight diesel supply is further strained by passenger vehicles sipping diesel, it could threaten supply for heavy trucks, construction, farming, and military. I have yet to see a military vehicle with a lithium battery.
On a related note, I read an article where a heavy truck company in Joliet, IL petitioned the city for an electric truck distribution hub. I think the plans were for it to be the central hub of about 30 electric heavy trucks. When the grid load was calculated, the city was going to have to double the city’s entire existing load, which was of course, not feasible with current infrastructure. The permit was denied. Another company in California wanted to electrify 12 heavy forklifts. It too, was denied for because of grid load.
I’m going to stop here and allow anyone who thinks lithium batteries can replace diesel, or all vehicles, to think about that. For these idiotic mandates to even be laughably plausible, we better start building a whole bunch of nuclear power stations right now or stfu about these electric vehicles in mass quantities being sustainable.
On a related note, I read an article where a heavy truck company in Joliet, IL petitioned the city for an electric truck distribution hub. I think the plans were for it to be the central hub of about 30 electric heavy trucks. When the grid load was calculated, the city was going to have to double the city’s entire existing load, which was of course, not feasible with current infrastructure. The permit was denied. Another company in California wanted to electrify 12 heavy forklifts. It too, was denied for because of grid load.
I’m going to stop here and allow anyone who thinks lithium batteries can replace diesel, or all vehicles, to think about that. For these idiotic mandates to even be laughably plausible, we better start building a whole bunch of nuclear power stations right now or stfu about these electric vehicles in mass quantities being sustainable.
Do the Nationwide Tesla Supercharging Stations have quaint little waiting rooms w/ TV and magazines where one can sip ones tea while waiting for ones "2017 Tesla Model S" to top off? Just askin'
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Douche bag arrives to save the day!!!!For at least 25 years, the price at the pump has not been tied to who is in office.
Gas has been cheap under presidents and it has been expensive under the same presidents.
Some have come into office as gas was trending down and patted themselves on the back.
Some have come into office as gas trending up and been blamed for the increase, while also blaming prior admin.
Gas fluctuated like 70% under Clinton.
Gas fluctuated 380% under W Bush.
It was volatile under Obama and Trump.
Yada Yada. Gas prices are volatile as 17 and it's crazy to accept, but there are more factors than just who is in office for a brief handful of years.
Gas price hikes aren’t tied to who’s president
President Joe Biden has faced a lot of criticism from Republicans for the rise in gasoline prices since he took office.
#1- just because you’re a fact checker doesn’t mean it’s true. surprised you didn’t use media matters as your sourceFor at least 25 years, the price at the pump has not been tied to who is in office.
Gas has been cheap under presidents and it has been expensive under the same presidents.
Some have come into office as gas was trending down and patted themselves on the back.
Some have come into office as gas trending up and been blamed for the increase, while also blaming prior admin.
Gas fluctuated like 70% under Clinton.
Gas fluctuated 380% under W Bush.
It was volatile under Obama and Trump.
Yada Yada. Gas prices are volatile as 17 and it's crazy to accept, but there are more factors than just who is in office for a brief handful of years.
Gas price hikes aren’t tied to who’s president
President Joe Biden has faced a lot of criticism from Republicans for the rise in gasoline prices since he took office.
#2-energy prices are set by the laws of supply and demand. when a 5hitty dem president kills the economy then price at the pump will drop. did you notice the recent opec moves?
#3-an all of the above energy supply will increase supply and lower costs
Starbucks will be popping up right next to all the stations if they haven't already done so.
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