The last time he lost he pinned the guy next time.
I did feel that he was a bit gassed at the end of the thirdDid anyone else think he seemed tired in the third? It seemed like he came out a little fast. If that's the case, he'll definitely manage the next match better.
Yes, the takedowns late in the third and SV seemed to be more AB being tired as opposed to some tactic to change tactics (left leg vs right).Did anyone else think he seemed tired in the third? It seemed like he came out a little fast. If that's the case, he'll definitely manage the next match better.
Both Hidlay and Keckeisen have looked good all season and both looked great in their respective conference finals. I think all four are very close to each other, much closer than many think. It will be interesting how the four of them will be seeded.He could drop to #3 after that loss. Which could mean Amine or Hidley in the semis and then the other in the final. That would be a really a high hill to climb.
I’ve been a regular in Rec Hall since the late 60’s. Season tic holder since early 90’s. I’ve seen the panoply of PSU stars and Aaron is right up there. Not the electricity of DT, Bo, or Nolf. Not an invincible power like Zain. What Aaron has is incredible positioning and a smooth patience. Hell yeah … he will learn from Sundays loss and come back even better. By the time he is finished he will be compared to Ruth, Taylor, Bo, and Nolf.I bet Aaron is such a competitor that he ups his games and wins at nationals!
A couple things about that match I noticed. Aaron was pushing the pace for most of the match, which would account for his being tired in the third. I believe Amine had a strategy of locking fingers to slow down the pace. Here is what the Rulebook says about interlocking fingers: Interlocking fingers shall be penalized when it occurs beyond a reasonable time as determined by the referee. Interlocking fingers with the opponent in the neutral position is a stalemate for the first offense. Subsequent offenses of interlocking fingers in the neutral position shall be called stalling. I think the official should have awarded a penalty point to whomever he felt was interlocking fingers the most. This would have cleaned up the match and opened things up a bit. Amine may have been playing possum about how tired he was in the match. Amine deserved the stall call he received and could have been hit once more. The stalling call against Aaron was horrible. It was that lazy "situational" stall call some officials just throw out there late in the third period. Even though Aaron was very tired at the time he was called for stalling, it seemed to mess with him mentally also. Aaron's escape to take it to overtime took it all out of him. I did not have a good feeling that Aaron would pull it out in SV. Amine absolutely deserved the win, and wrestled a smart strategic match. They are very close in talent, but I favor Aaron in a rematch.Yes, the takedowns late in the third and SV seemed to be more AB being tired as opposed to some tactic to change tactics (left leg vs right).
Agreed. I thought AB was the least likely of any of our number 1 seeds to lose. I’ve been telling everyone who’d listen that he’s going to win an Olympic gold medal someday.They are very close in talent, but I favor Aaron in a rematch.
Yep, in order of level of confidence in winning B1G - 1st place, 1. Gable Steveson, 2. Aaron Brooks, etc.Agreed. I thought AB was the least likely of any of our number 1 seeds to lose. I’ve been telling everyone who’d listen that he’s going to win an Olympic gold medal someday.
Addendum: Just don’t let KJ set the alarm clock for weigh ins and UofM should be fine.good stuff here. I agree that Amine was well prepared versus Aaron and in my opinion he did appear beat by the end of two. Great mental jousting if that's what it really was. I saw elsewhere in the last day or so, comments about the 'Kevin Jackson' effect. The first meeting between PSU and MI, I thought, what does this guy Jackson bring to the table? Not much. The MI guys were in my opinion, out coached and got out wrestled, no fire, out of shape, boring. However, during the Big 10 tournament they were a different group of guys.
We are all looking forward to the NCAA's because our coaches will be reviewing film, tweaking the miscues and holes in the guys' games and coaching to peak on just the right weekend. And I DO believe PSU is going to win it all. But I am also beginning to wonder if the KJ effect might be happening at the same time.
Agreed. You can tell Amine respects Brooks as well. As an aside, I gained some respect for Austin DeSanto with the way he conducted himself Sunday at the end of another tough one with RBY.Obviously, Aaron was disappointed when he lost, but he looked Amine in the eye and shook his hand like a man. I can't stand it when these guys give a half-hearted handshake while looking the other way. I think it says a lot about him.
I think he was. There was a lot of effort being expended throughout the match. Amine is 25 and probably still in Olympic shape and may have been a little more ready for the pace of this one.Did anyone else think he seemed tired in the third? It seemed like he came out a little fast. If that's the case, he'll definitely manage the next match better.
No amount of KJ effect is gonna help all the holes in their lineup next year.good stuff here. I agree that Amine was well prepared versus Aaron and in my opinion he did appear beat by the end of two. Great mental jousting if that's what it really was. I saw elsewhere in the last day or so, comments about the 'Kevin Jackson' effect. The first meeting between PSU and MI, I thought, what does this guy Jackson bring to the table? Not much. The MI guys were in my opinion, out coached and got out wrestled, no fire, out of shape, boring. However, during the Big 10 tournament they were a different group of guys.
We are all looking forward to the NCAA's because our coaches will be reviewing film, tweaking the miscues and holes in the guys' games and coaching to peak on just the right weekend. And I DO believe PSU is going to win it all. But I am also beginning to wonder if the KJ effect might be happening at the same time.
Agree that AB is every bit as good as our PSU greats but the PSU greats separated themselves from the competition so much that it kind of gets cloudy. AB has some really stout competition in his class even though he's the best - but Amine is really close.I’ve been a regular in Rec Hall since the late 60’s. Season tic holder since early 90’s. I’ve seen the panoply of PSU stars and Aaron is right up there. Not the electricity of DT, Bo, or Nolf. Not an invincible power like Zain. What Aaron has is incredible positioning and a smooth patience. Hell yeah … he will learn from Sundays loss and come back even better. By the time he is finished he will be compared to Ruth, Taylor, Bo, and Nolf.
I believe Amine had a strategy of locking fingers to slow down the pace. Here is what the Rulebook says about interlocking fingers: Interlocking fingers shall be penalized when it occurs beyond a reasonable time as determined by the referee. Interlocking fingers with the opponent in the neutral position is a stalemate for the first offense. Subsequent offenses of interlocking fingers in the neutral position shall be called stalling. I think the official should have awarded a penalty point to whomever he felt was interlocking fingers the most. This would have cleaned up the match and opened things up a bit.
The stalling call against Aaron was horrible. It was that lazy "situational" stall call some officials just throw out there late in the third period.
Tom, with your commitment to this board...You're married..?!?That's not how it works. The majority of the time the interlocking fingers aren't caused by wrestler A grabbing the fingers of his opponent. It's usually wrestler B trying to clear his wrist and wrestler A ending up having fingers when he responds (or clear the hand when on bottom), or wrestler A reaching out for a wrist, elbow, etc., and ending up with fingers. The ref verbally tells them to release the fingers, and some times that happens. More often, the release doesn't happen quickly enough (even if one wrestler is trying to get out of the situation), so that's when you stop the action and tell them to avoid interlocking fingers.
Horrible??? That's not even close to being accurate. Amine looked exhausted after some of the stalemates called in the 3rd period. However, the stall call was made because Amine had taken 3 or 4 shots in the 3rd period, and AB did not shoot during that timeframe. When one wrestler shoots 3 times and the opponent does nothing, the refs are taught to start evaluating the situation for stalling. It's not a simple 3 shots to zero immediately warrants a stall call; you have to evaluate the entire situation. About 5 sec. before the stall call against AB, I said to my wife that AB better shoot or he'll get hit for stalling. Every ref has a different timeframe for calling stalling, but from this ref's perspective, that was a justified call against AB.