Either we trust Coach Dan Mullen, or not.

[RocketCityDawg]

Apparently he, who has actually coached a national championship team, thinks the Favre kid, adopted or not, has some potential for the team he is now coaching at MSU.

Since Dylan will possibly/probably be a red shirt next year, I'm still thinking Mullen is with us for the mid-term, if not the long term. He's planning ahead. And since he's a guy who has coached great QBs, and can evaluate talent -- or we shouldn't have him, I'm willing to trust his judgement.

More than I'm willing to trust the judgement of internet gurus.

Edit: to comply with the preference of the board moderators.

 

[RocketCityDawg]

Apparently he, who has actually coached a national championship team, thinks the Favre kid, adopted or not, has some potential for the team he is now coaching at MSU.

Since Dylan will possibly/probably be a red shirt next year, I'm still thinking Mullen is with us for the mid-term, if not the long term. He's planning ahead. And since he's a guy who has coached great QBs, and can evaluate talent -- or we shouldn't have him, I'm willing to trust his judgement.

More than I'm willing to trust the judgement of internet gurus.

Edit: to comply with the preference of the board moderators.

 

[vhdawg]

....the next time you consider typing "CDM", don't. Pointless abbreviations are stupid.

 

[ckDOG]

Pointless abbreviations are stupid.

I also assume the vh stands for Van Halen, no??

 

[RobbieRandolph]

nt

 

[RocketCityDawg]

I am probably the first poster here who has used that abbreviation for Coach Dan Mullen.

Sorry, dude.

Didn't mean to pee on your post toasties.

Seven teen.

Really.

 

[Todd4State]

Pointless abbreviations are stupid.

I also assume the vh stands for Van Halen, no??

If you don't see the difference, I don't know what to say.

 

[Johnson85]

the ~25th player we would have signed otherwise. Favre may end up being great, it's a hard position to project, but I doubt Mullen is pumped that Favre is a good use of a scholarship at this point. I'm sure Mullen would rather have Newton and Brunetti so that it would make more sense to take a flyer on an OL, LB, or DB.

That said, I don't get why some people seem to be upset. The reality is that once we lost Newton, our qb recruiting was really just going to be for depth. Next year, there is going to be a lot of pressure to find a replacement for Relf (somebody that's good enough to take at least running qb duties as a redshirt freshman), but we should have a season that will make recruiting a good qb much easier. I would have liked to get a good qb for the future, but I wasn't expecting to recruit a great high school qb coming off a 5-7 season with a relatively highly rated qb just finishing redshirting his freshman season.

 

[ckDOG]

Pointless abbreviations are stupid.

I also assume the vh stands for Van Halen, no??

If you don't see the difference, I don't know what to say.

That was really just tossed in for the hell of it. I see the difference, thanks. Just trying to point out the ridiculousness of someone trying to call out another poster for unnecessary abbreviation usage when they use it themselves in their own post. If you can't see how that's terrible, I don't know what to say.

 

[HD6]

let's leave the CDM type things for the Bama fans of the world. Mullen will suffice.

 

[Todd4State]

about him until I saw some video on him and talked to someone that I know and trust regarding football about him. He said that he stood next to him one time at a football game and said that Favre is closer to 5'9" than 5'11" and that his greatest asset is his speed. But he said a lot of the same things I gathered from watching the video- weak arm, takes too many risks, holds the ball too low, and is a major project.

To me, this isn't about trusting Dan. This is about failling to close on our top guys at the QB position. I understand why we signed Favre, but honestly, I don't see why we wouldn't take this chance with Whitt Haggard. But as they say- "what's in a name?"

 

[RocketCityDawg]

I'll take that from you. It's your board.
Still don't get it, but, whatever.
Mullen it shall be.

Seems a tempest in a pee-pot, to me.

 

[dodey]

I have seen him play in the south state game against greene county. Pretty strong arm with good speed. But needs few years to make it in the sec

 

[SnakePlissken]

or ever be a starter at State or the SEC. I believe it was more of a publicity thing and roster filler. How can you say that you will recruit MS players, and win with MS players, yet not offer or sign the player of the year?

 

[thatsbaseball]

if Mullen and his staff had done a better job of recruiting there wouldn`t be a scholly for Favre. Bashing this kid is gotten beyond old when the facts are the facts. He should be a walk on but we are not having a great recruiting year and there`s plenty of room for those dreaded "diamonds in the rough". Sorry guys this on Mullen.</p>

 

[VinceVega70]

First, people judge this recruiting class a month before it's final. I think we need to sit tight and see how it plays out up to signing day. Several bigtime players remain uncommitted. Second, I think we have some major unrealistic expectations of Mullen at this point. Nick Saban could come to State and we'd still lose the majority of recruiting battles with the upper echelon SEC teams. You can only do so much selling potential and having assisted coaching Tebow. In the case of Newton, Auburn sold him on better facilities, more program money, better track record of placing kids in NFL, a bowl win, and geographic proximity to home. It was a no-brainer for him to go there rather than State. They beat us in all the above aspects. I don't think it reflects poorly on Mullen that we came up short with Newton.

 

[patdog]

The use of initials gets taken to an absurd level by the Bama boards (or at least it did the last time I visited there). You almost need a damn interpreter to read a post. Much easier and better to just not do it to start with than to try to figure out how much is too much. Not to mention that even once just looks ridiculous anyway.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Having a spot for Favre isn`t simply because we lost Newton. Do you think if we had a bunch of good talent line up at other positions and didn`t have schollies to burn we would have signed a two star QB ? You don`t end up with a 45th ranked recruiting class just because you lost one QB recruit. Mullen WILL do better but we simply haven`t gotten it done this year YET !

 

[8dog]

before a coach's initials. Like we don't know they are a coach?

 

[Shmuley]

mini-favre is probably option 6 or worse. Sometimes you just have to admit the obvious. Maybe Mullen can close on maybe three or so decent recruits that will elevate the class into the 30s, which will put us at #10 or #11 in the conference. yay.

 

[8dog]

Mullen's plan E Qb (after Newton, Brunetti, Nance, and Mason) is better than all but 1 of the QBs that Croom ever signed.

We are holding our own in MS despite the fact our arch rival has been to back to back Cotton Bowls and we've had back to back losing seasons.

Admittedly, I would like to see us add another really good recruiter to the staff.

 

[MSUbravesfan]

nm

 

[maroonmania]

the Broadway kid from LA that committed to Houston at QB as well. I guess we can add him to the list of QBs this year that got away. Look, I guess this is not a major shock, it seems every time a new coach comes to State without any natural ties to the area he struggles in recruiting early on. Maybe it takes a while to build all the relationships you need with the HS coaches and kids in the area, I don't know. I can remember how poor I thought Jackie's first couple of classes were and don't even get me started on the level the first couple of Croom classes were at. I believe this year's class is still better that any of those groups. Maybe we were a little jaded last year by the fact that for the most part last year Mullen just held on to guys that were already committed and then did add Bumphis and a couple of other nice players but for the most part last year's class was set before the coaching change and most of the work wasn't done by this staff. Assuming Mullen stays for a while I do believe his classes will continue to get substantially better. The loss of Newton is the big sting for this year because that was a player that Mullen should have had a HUGE leg up on recruiting due to the existing personal relationship he had with him.

 

[8dog]

so getting familiar with the area isn't an issue.

Its just going to be difficult to get a QB from another state when we aren't winning.

And if a kid from Memphis decides in August he wants to go to WV, Im not sure what you do about that. Its just strange. At least we coaxed him into a visit.

 

[maroonmania]

with getting quality OL as well but, like QB, there are not a lot of quality lineman in-state this year and then you have a guy like Coleman headed to Auburn. You are correct though, if it wasn't for our in-state success we would be really hurting. Just seems with the 4 years Mullen spent recruiting FL and GA while at the UofF that he could have already had more success getting some players from there to supplement the areas that MS is lacking. He did get close with Mason and Gates but close doesn't help in recruiting.

 

[Foronce]

Broadway didn't impress at the Big Dawg Camp

/I don't think we had a real shot a mason once GA offered him

 

[8dog]

is its the biggest wild card out there. Its nice to sign highly touted ones, but really, with most of these guys, you have no idea what your getting.

Would I rather have Robinson and Coleman? Sure. But its not a lost cause as long as you sign some bodies.

Hell, look at our line. Im not sure Brignone, Jenkins, Saulsberry, and Lawrence could combine for a decent offer list.

 

[jacksonreb1]

d

 

[jacksonreb1]

oline showed this yr over last indicates that whoever is coaching msu's oline is good. so IF ya'll sign 4 or so that he is really happy about, i wouldn't worry too much. if the truth is he ends up taking some bodies just to fill slots then that's not good. i do know that good oline coaches will disagree in evalutating prospects more than almost any other position and sometimes everybody is wrong and sometimes everybody is right.