EVICTION NOTICE: The state just evicted your school from it from its current location. What new city in Mississippi would you move your school to?

eckie1

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Saw this topic on another board.

I'd move to Jackson metro. Interstate access. Center of the state. Jackson - even with it's current issues - would be ideal.
Would be absolutely no worse than Baton Rouge. I’d be down.
 

greenbean.sixpack

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1. Build the "One Lake" (or whatever it's current name is) on the purl south of the Rez. 2. Locate college in Rankin County on the south side. 3. Easy 4 lane access to I55/I20 Hwys 49 and 25. 4. Airport close by. 5. Build huge Casino, in the Hinds Count/Jxn next door to the school.
 

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Wesson******** has Co-Lin, which a nice football stadium (Stone Stadium) with artificial playing surface and seats about 3500. We can upgrade to 35,000 as it has plenty of space around the stadium. Plus they just rebuilt the baseball stadium. Its right next to Wolf Hollow Golf Course. And Mullen Gymnasium for basketball is no slouch. Additionally Co-Lin has brand new softball and soccer facilities. State can come in and take it all over.
Wesson has 2 Dollar Generals, a Family Dollar, a great BBQ restaurant and is 4 miles from I-55. Plus, its legal to sell/buy cold beer in Wesson.
It has great potential****************************
 

OG Goat Holder

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Let's look at facts.

Ole Miss has tentacles all over Memphis, that's not really an option. Plus geographic proximity to Ole Miss.

Tupelo gives you better access to Nashville and Huntsville, with direction shots to Birmingham and Memphis (even though it's really Ole Miss territory). And again, too close to Ole Miss.

Meridian gives better Jackson access and you also become the closest SEC school to Mobile and the western FL panhandle.

Hattiesburg is out, as USM is there.

Jackson is intriguing, it gives the state of MS a thriving capital city suddenly, but takes away from all the things Tupelo and Meridian give you. It also gets you farther away from Tuscaloosa.

If you do all the pros and cons, and consider that the only reason you want to be in NE MS is because we are leaking population to Nashville, Huntsville and Birmingham, I'd say the answer is the Jackson metro area, because then you have an urban center that would be attractive to many, many people. I think in 2023, that's the answer.

If you could go back to 1878, I'd say you never split with Ole Miss and put it in Oxford. But if that split happens anyway, I think you'd need to go Meridian like they planned originally. But now, I think it's Jackson, probably on the Rankin County side somewhere, as that gives you separation from Jackson State, Belhaven and Milsaps and outside the grip of Jackson/Hinds County.
 

dorndawg

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Gluckstadt, from what I hear the traffic will be an improvement over Hwy 25.
 

OG Goat Holder

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The coast would be amazing outside of the prospect of your entire institution getting blown to bits every 20 years…
Truth. Coast isn't an option. And honestly, Hattiesburg for the same reason.

What you're trying to copy is what South Carolina has with Columbia. Far enough inland to get away from that hurricane threat, and a nice capital city with a heartbeat. Not to mention, USM would probably regress further into a commuter type school, like a Coastal Carolina. Hattiesburg's economy is pretty good even without them.
 
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Xenomorph

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I’ve always thought MSU should’ve been placed in Vicksburg.

I understand back in 1878 things might not have seemed conducive to a major state college being there due to that little military conflict 15 years prior… but as things stand now it would be a huge win.

Closer to Jackson, located on I-20, situated in better proximity to agriculture which MSU was founded to serve.

And the best would be that MSU would have a unique identity and Vicksburg would’ve been transformed over time into a great southern college town.
 

travis.sixpack

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Saw this topic on another board.

I'd move to Jackson metro. Interstate access. Center of the state. Jackson - even with it's current issues - would be ideal.
Good topic, DS.

1. Southaven/Olive Branch - Metro area with access to shopping, airport, etc. Good recruiting base.
2. Ocean Springs - Wedged between SELA and Lower Alabama along I-10 would be a good recruiting base. Nice area, with good schools.
3. The Rez - How cool would it to have a major university along the shoreline of the Reservoir? Close to the Nissan plant.
4. Brandon - Yawn. This is where it would actually go, 100%.
 
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GloryDawg

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State was putting 60K in the seats in the 80's. If State was located in the Metro area all this time we would have a 80K seat stadium today.
 

Trojanbulldog19

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Meridian or biloxi. Meridian is basically Tuscaloosa south though but we already have a campus there. Interstate. Bigger thank Starkville without the school.
Biloxi makes sense with 10. In between mobile and New Orleans for draw. The whole coast is semi connected like a metro area. Casinos and entertainment.
 

jethreauxdawg

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Ole Miss has tentacles all over Memphis, that's not really an option. Plus geographic proximity to Ole Miss.
Just to continue the discussion, there are more state fans in desoto county than in Starkville, so I’m not worried about ole miss slimy tentacles and we’re already very close to Oxford, so that doesn’t bother me either.
 

Perd Hapley

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State was putting 60K in the seats in the 80's. If State was located in the Metro area all this time we would have a 80K seat stadium today.

They most certainly did not. Not by themselves. There were 60k at games at the Vet with other teams supplying between 30-50% of the fans or more (USM, LSU, OM, Bama, etc.), but never in the history of college football have there been 60,000 Mississippi State fans in any football stadium at one time. Not even in Starkville in 2014 did that happen.
 

dawgstudent

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I’ve always thought MSU should’ve been placed in Vicksburg.

I understand back in 1878 things might not have seemed conducive to a major state college being there due to that little military conflict 15 years prior… but as things stand now it would be a huge win.

Closer to Jackson, located on I-20, situated in better proximity to agriculture which MSU was founded to serve.

And the best would be that MSU would have a unique identity and Vicksburg would’ve been transformed over time into a great southern college town.
I've always heard a rumor that Vicksburg had an opportunity for the Jackson airport to be built closer to Warren County but the Vicksburg city leaders didn't want it built closer to Vicksburg. So it ended up in Pearl.
 
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peewee.sixpack

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I’ve always thought MSU should’ve been placed in Vicksburg.

I understand back in 1878 things might not have seemed conducive to a major state college being there due to that little military conflict 15 years prior… but as things stand now it would be a huge win.

Closer to Jackson, located on I-20, situated in better proximity to agriculture which MSU was founded to serve.

And the best would be that MSU would have a unique identity and Vicksburg would’ve been transformed over time into a great southern college town.
I agree, and with ERDC in Vicksburg it would have created a research center for MS and the south. Huge missed opportunity.
 

GloryDawg

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They most certainly did not. Not by themselves. There were 60k at games at the Vet with other teams supplying between 30-50% of the fans or more (USM, LSU, OM, Bama, etc.), but never in the history of college football have there been 60,000 Mississippi State fans in any football stadium at one time. Not even in Starkville in 2014 did that happen.
Mississippi State by it self has never put 60k in Davis Wade the fact remains Mississippi State has played games of 60K plus in Jackson. A metro area of 500K with a SEC school located there in 2023 would have a 80K seat football stadium. Either you put too much into words or you just like to argue.
 

Perd Hapley

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Mississippi State by it self has never put 60k in Davis Wade the fact remains Mississippi State has played games of 60K plus in Jackson. A metro area of 500K with a SEC school located there in 2023 would have a 80K seat football stadium. Either you put too much into words or you just like to argue.

Mississippi State has had plenty of 60k games in both Jackson and Starkville. They’ve never had more than 50-55k of those fans themselves in either location, but the only time they’ve ever approached even that 50-55k mark has been in Starkville. They were lucky to turn out 30k - 35k in the 80’s games in Jackson.

The reason we don’t have 80k at games and won’t ever have 80k at games anywhere has nothing to do with population proximity. If that’s all it was, we’d have never set any attendance records in baseball. Jackson’s an easy day trip away as it is. All the fans we have there have no issue getting to the games now. You don’t gain anything attendance-wise by moving the campus there.
 
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Vicksburg would have been very unique. Mississippi River is amazing and the city is central to the entire state.

Meridian would have made sense. Central location. But…oh they have bars!

I love Starkville, but our state has many other spots that may have put us in a better position long term.

Perhaps, today is the pinnacle of in person higher Ed. In 100 years, things will likely look much different.
 

eckie1

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Saw this topic on another board.

I'd move to Jackson metro. Interstate access. Center of the state. Jackson - even with its current issues - would be ideal.
The elephant in the room is that the reason we don’t have a mega University is because the plantation owners in Oxford wouldn’t entertain adding an A&M college. So, State jumped on the land grant and the rest is history.

As usual, the little brothers in Oxford screwed the pooch and did a massive disservice to the state of Mississippi.
 

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The coast would be amazing outside of the prospect of your entire institution getting blown to bits every 20 years…
Just build on high land and don't build cheap. Hwy 67 would be a good spot. Far enough north to not get the worst of the hurricans, plenty of available land, quick connections to I10 and I49 (commutable from Hattiesburg), and quick shot to Biloxi.
 

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I’ve always thought MSU should’ve been placed in Vicksburg.

I understand back in 1878 things might not have seemed conducive to a major state college being there due to that little military conflict 15 years prior… but as things stand now it would be a huge win.

Closer to Jackson, located on I-20, situated in better proximity to agriculture which MSU was founded to serve.

And the best would be that MSU would have a unique identity and Vicksburg would’ve been transformed over time into a great southern college town.
Very interesting. Never thought of this, maybe because of the proximity to LSU. But we could have plucked many a student out of north LA and south AR.
 

Dawgbite

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Some of you really do hate our university if you would relocate it to Jackson, you know, the third world country! There’s really only two possibilities, Tupelo because it’s on an interstate and its proximity to Memphis, Birmingham, Huntsville, and Nashville. The drawback is that it’s even closer to Oxford. The second option is the Coast but that puts you right in LSUs front yard.
 
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OG Goat Holder

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Some of you really do hate our university if you would relocate it to Jackson, you know, the third world country! There’s really only two possibilities, Tupelo because it’s on an interstate and its proximity to Memphis, Birmingham, Huntsville, and Nashville. The drawback is that it’s even closer to Oxford. The second option is the Coast but that puts you right in LSUs front yard.
Doesn’t have to be Jackson Proper. Just in the metro. And the metro automatically becomes a much better place. Suddenly the state of Mississippi becomes better, which has an exponential effect on MSU. You know, MISSISSIPPI State.

Some of you just can’t see the forest for the trees.
 
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