Expanded CFP doesn’t diminish importance of regular season

18IsTheMan

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Yet, all the talk after Florida State’s loss is about just putting this game behind them and how they still have a clear path of the playoffs.
 

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As it is every year, the experts have talked up the ACC in the off-season. Even just before kickoff, (as they often do) the Gameday guys were saying this conference is not your average ACC conference this year. They were saying there could actually be more than two teams compete for a conference championship. LOL! They would have us believe it is better than ever. This is exactly why I like to see games like this blow up in their faces. Funny thing is if they actually believed the mess they spewed, they would probably be writing FSU's obit.
 

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As it is every year, the experts have talked up the ACC in the off-season. Even just before kickoff, (as they often do) the Gameday guys were saying this conference is not your average ACC conference this year. They were saying there could actually be more than two teams compete for a conference championship. LOL! They would have us believe it is better than ever. This is exactly why I like to see games like this blow up in their faces. Funny thing is if they actually believed the mess they spewed, they would probably be writing FSU's obit

That’s an over exaggeration. It’s one game and tech was suspected to be improved. I never felt this game would be a blow out. Didn’t think fsu would lose but I expected tech to take them to the wire. Tech is improving you could see it last year.
 

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That’s an over exaggeration. It’s one game and tech was suspected to be improved. I never felt this game would be a blow out. Didn’t think fsu would lose but I expected tech to take them to the wire. Tech is improving you could see it last year.
Where is the exaggeration? Are you saying the experts haven't over-hyped the ACC again? ...or haven't in the past? Sure it's too early to tell if they will be right or wrong, but they do have a track record. I must have missed the part where they were claiming GT was one to look out for in the conference race.
 

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Where is the exaggeration? Are you saying the experts haven't over-hyped the ACC again? ...or haven't in the past? Sure it's too early to tell if they will be right or wrong, but they do have a track record. I must have missed the part where they were claiming GT was one to look out for in the conference race.
Then you sir have not been paying attention. Guess you missed nick Saban picking them as the acc dark horse yesterday. For the most part I think the ACC is better than they were in the 2010’s.
 

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As they would have even in a 4 team playoff. A loss in the opener doesn’t eliminate you with 4 teams. So not really sure what you’re trying to say.
Wrong. Just couldn't be more wrong. In a 4-team playoff you'd be on red alert the rest of the season, knowing you had lost all wiggle room in Game 1 by losing a conference game. You would be working your way back into contention the rest of the season. Now, the thinking is, as it's already been expressed, they are still in the 12-team playoff as it is, they just can't afford any/many other missteps that would knock them out.

Think Alabama last year. They took that early season loss to Texas and they were on the outside looking in for the 4 team playoff for much of the year and needed some favorable decisions to get there.
 
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As it is every year, the experts have talked up the ACC in the off-season. Even just before kickoff, (as they often do) the Gameday guys were saying this conference is not your average ACC conference this year. They were saying there could actually be more than two teams compete for a conference championship. LOL! They would have us believe it is better than ever. This is exactly why I like to see games like this blow up in their faces. Funny thing is if they actually believed the mess they spewed, they would probably be writing FSU's obit.
Wrong. See Post #7 above.
 

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Then you sir have not been paying attention. Guess you missed nick Saban picking them as the acc dark horse yesterday. For the most part I think the ACC is better than they were in the 2010’s.
Yes I missed that. The only part of Gameday I caught was just prior to the game and only bits an pieces of that. Truth is I dont pay much attention to their opinions anymore so I rarely tune in for that. And I clearly dont base my opinion on theirs. We will see soon enough how it plays out. That said, perhaps Nick Saban can bring more credibility to the show.
 
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As they would have even in a 4 team playoff. A loss in the opener doesn’t eliminate you with 4 teams. So not really sure what you’re trying to say.
In a four team playoff, they would not still control their own destiny. They would have to hope some other teams lose and lose the right games. They would also have to hope that some other ACC teams have strong seasons to give them some quality wins.

With the 12 team playoff, yesterday's loss literally means nothing. Win out, and they're in.
 
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Where is the exaggeration? Are you saying the experts haven't over-hyped the ACC again? ...or haven't in the past? Sure it's too early to tell if they will be right or wrong, but they do have a track record. I must have missed the part where they were claiming GT was one to look out for in the conference race.
By using your argument, if we were to beat Alabama (yes, I know it wont happen), then critics would claim the SEC is overhyped.

It's not unsual to have over reactions early in the season. Texas beat Bama 34-24 in the 2nd week of the season last year, and across the board people were panning Saban, and declaring he was past his prime. We all know know how off base that assetment turned out to be.
It's a long season and WAY TOO EARLY to make season ending proclamations.
 
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In a four team playoff, they would not still control their own destiny. They would have to hope some other teams lose and lose the right games. They would also have to hope that some other ACC teams have strong seasons to give them some quality wins.

With the 12 team playoff, yesterday's loss literally means nothing. Win out, and they're in.
We can agree to disagree. Sure they got left out last year but that’s one out of 10. 9/10 they would still control their destiny.


I still believe they would get in 9/10 times and history basically says that. You’re going off one year. Heck Clemson can be used in many examples.
 

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We can agree to disagree. Sure they got left out last year but that’s one out of 10. 9/10 they would still control their destiny.


I still believe they would get in 9/10 times and history basically says that. You’re going off one year. Heck Clemson can be used in many examples.
My post didn't reference last season in any way. FSU was undefeated last season and still didn't get in. I agree an undefeated ACC champion would get in at least 90% of the time.
 

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I guess FSU fans missed the fact that the result Saturday was meaningless. Here's one example of the fan meltdown.

https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/hey-watchant-jcs-you-can-miss-me-with-the….1492928/
 

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My post didn't reference last season in any way. FSU was undefeated last season and still didn't get in. I agree an undefeated ACC champion would get in at least 90% of the time.

Yeah, last year was weird because of the qb going down.
 

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By using your argument, if we were to beat Alabama (yes, I know it wont happen), then critics would claim the SEC is overhyped.

It's not unsual to have over reactions early in the season. Texas beat Bama 34-24 in the 2nd week of the season last year, and across the board people were panning Saban, and declaring he was past his prime. We all know know how off base that assetment turned out to be.
It's a long season and WAY TOO EARLY to make season ending proclamations.
As I said in a previous post- "Sure it's too early to tell".
I'd be hesitant to compare the two conferences ability to absorb losses although critics are always gonna criticize. I think anyone that would say the SEC is overrated because one of their top teams were defeated hasn't been paying attention or has an ax to grind. To bounce back, you better beat somebody... somebody who is still standing at the end of the season. Typically the ACC does not end the season with as many ranked teams as they started with. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the best opportunities for a bounce back is found in the SEC... opportunity wise. Given that, it's a tougher row to hoe to climb out of a hole in the ACC imo. Again tho, it's too early to tell. FSU could win the conference. Who knows? Beyond that, I would not bet on their chances of getting in but that's me.
 

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Expanded CFP doesn’t diminish importance of regular season​

It diminishes the importance of getting to 11 wins in the regular season for certain. If you're one of the the five highest ranked conference champions, you could get in with multiple losses because it doesn't matter what your ranking is, as long as only four other conference champions in the FBS are ranked ahead of you. So I don't see how in the world that doesn't diminish the regular season.
 

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Right now I think Louisiana state would agree with the title of this topic. They lost an important game last night and now they will have to fight like hell to be one of the seven teams to get selected into the playoffs.
 

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Right now I think Louisiana state would agree with the title of this topic. They lost an important game last night and now they will have to fight like hell to be one of the seven teams to get selected into the playoffs.
If my team looked as good as LSU has, I would still have plenty of hope.
 
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I heard someone say this morning that technically FSU could still make the playoffs. They would have to win out, win the ACCCG and that would place them in the Top 4 seed bracket.
Although true, I surely would not be placing any bets on the scenario.
 

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I heard someone say this morning that technically FSU could still make the playoffs. They would have to win out, win the ACCCG and that would place them in the Top 4 seed bracket.
Although true, I surely would not be placing any bets on the scenario.
Clemson could as well and not even have to win out.
 

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I heard someone say this morning that technically FSU could still make the playoffs. They would have to win out, win the ACCCG and that would place them in the Top 4 seed bracket.
Although true, I surely would not be placing any bets on the scenario.
Miami is the team to watch in the ACC this year.
 
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Miami is the team to watch in the ACC this year.
For me it's not that they won decisively, it was the domination of the line play on both sides of the ball. Several write ups had the UF OL would be their strongest unit, yet Miami owned them throughout the game.
 
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For me it's not that they won decisively, it was the domination of the line play on both sides of the ball. Several write ups had the UF OL would be their strongest unit, yet Miami owned them throughout the game.
Before the first quarter was over, the eventual outcome was obvious based on Miami's physical dominance alone. And then there was that quarterback. He's got the goods.
 

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It diminishes the importance of getting to 11 wins in the regular season for certain. If you're one of the the five highest ranked conference champions, you could get in with multiple losses because it doesn't matter what your ranking is, as long as only four other conference champions in the FBS are ranked ahead of you. So I don't see how in the world that doesn't diminish the regular season.
It diminishes the regular season somewhat, but I will take it over programs scheduling their way to the playoffs just to get to 11 wins. I like it in basketball where you get tough OOC games because it benefits you if you win, but it doesn't kill you if you lose. Programs should have a little bit of wiggle room to come back. ....and I am not saying that as some newbie looking to change everything. Tradition has its place, but, at times, times have to change or otherwise things become stale.
 
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It diminishes the regular season somewhat, but I will take it over programs scheduling their way to the playoffs just to get to 11 wins. I like it in basketball where you get tough OOC games because it benefits you if you win, but it doesn't kill you if you lose. Programs should have a little bit of wiggle room to come back. ....and I am not saying that as some newbie looking to change everything. Tradition has its place, but, at times, times have to change or otherwise things become stale.
This changed because there was more money in it. You know it and I know it. All we did was increase the number of pretenders in the postseason and give people some CFP bragging rights that, up to now, would not have deserved them.
 
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