FC: Let’s take a look at Georgia’s facilities, shall we?

bdgan

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How do PSU's facilities compare? I toured the Lasch Building just over 10 years ago and it was impressive. It's been renovated since then. Electronics in the lockers, big screen TV's, gaming areas, nutrition bar, and of course well equipped academic areas. Another $48m renovation has been approved. At that point what will GA have that PSU won't have?
 

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How do PSU's facilities compare? I toured the Lasch Building just over 10 years ago and it was impressive. It's been renovated since then. Electronics in the lockers, big screen TV's, gaming areas, nutrition bar, and of course well equipped academic areas. Another $48m renovation has been approved. At that point what will GA have that PSU won't have?

I remember a locker room video a few years ago that looked great. Not sure what the rest of the facilities are like.
 
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hapval8286

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Just saw on 247 site that Alabama put a $300 million renovation and Oklahoma put up $370 million to renovate their football facilities. There are videos to watch as well. It is so impressive, I would consider going there if I were a top athlete even if I grew up a PSU fan is State College. The PSU history of winning and tradition that was established by JVP doesn't mean anything to most of the top talent kids. We haven't been a powerhouse for almost 25 years. Remember being 17-18 years old and thinking how long ago 25 years seemed at that time? PSU NEEDS to spend hundreds of millions to keep pace in todays college football world. What are the chances it happens in the next 5 years? How long would it take to do the renovations even if 200 million suddenly appeared in the budget? It takes someone like Franklin who sees the long game and is willing to stay here for a few decades and fight to make it happen. Otherwise, it will never happen.
 

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Perhaps it's the fan in me saying this, but I'm also an alumnus. Academics build the institution, but football puts the institution on the map. Living in Pennsylvania, why do I know anything about USC, U of Oregon, U of Alabama, U of Florida, etc.? It's because of the attention and branding their football programs have raised about their respective institutions. What is a shame is that there are not enough folks on the Board who are willing to realize the reality that successful football is not merely about football recruiting, but it is even far more so about recruiting students who entertain no ambitions of playing college sports. Outside of the couple handfuls of institutions whose academics are commonly esteemed elite, universities can really benefit from successful football programs that put the school's name out there nationally on a week-by-week basis.

Keeping up with the Joneses in football helps elevate the brand of the entire university. CJF is right to harp on this. It needs to be done.
 

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Just saw on 247 site that Alabama put a $300 million renovation and Oklahoma put up $370 million to renovate their football facilities. There are videos to watch as well. It is so impressive, I would consider going there if I were a top athlete even if I grew up a PSU fan is State College. The PSU history of winning and tradition that was established by JVP doesn't mean anything to most of the top talent kids. We haven't been a powerhouse for almost 25 years. Remember being 17-18 years old and thinking how long ago 25 years seemed at that time? PSU NEEDS to spend hundreds of millions to keep pace in todays college football world. What are the chances it happens in the next 5 years? How long would it take to do the renovations even if 200 million suddenly appeared in the budget? It takes someone like Franklin who sees the long game and is willing to stay here for a few decades and fight to make it happen. Otherwise, it will never happen.
That’s the issue. The allocation at PSU might seem like a big number but it’s not close to what is needed. We are trying to catch up and the top programs aren’t standing still.
 

hapval8286

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I'm a big fan of Franklin and I know some on this board are not. Even if you don't like him, he is the right person for the program because his willing to fight, fight and fight some more to get the facilities upgrades in motion. How many other top tier coaches would come in here, at this point, and put in the effort Franklin seems to be doing, especially if they know what an uphill battle that actually exists at PSU? There is no such thing as building a powerhouse playoff team without having top 10 facilities in today's world. Is there a team with older facilities that has been in the playoffs more than once?
 

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Perhaps it's the fan in me saying this, but I'm also an alumnus. Academics build the institution, but football puts the institution on the map. Living in Pennsylvania, why do I know anything about USC, U of Oregon, U of Alabama, U of Florida, etc.? It's because of the attention and branding their football programs have raised about their respective institutions. What is a shame is that there are not enough folks on the Board who are willing to realize the reality that successful football is not merely about football recruiting, but it is even far more so about recruiting students who entertain no ambitions of playing college sports. Outside of the couple handfuls of institutions whose academics are commonly esteemed elite, universities can really benefit from successful football programs that put the school's name out there nationally on a week-by-week basis.

Keeping up with the Joneses in football helps elevate the brand of the entire university. CJF is right to harp on this. It needs to be done.

If I'm not mistaken, there was an article I read that with the success of Saban at Alabama, their academic profile has risen and admissions is now much more selective.
 

Alphalion75

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One really big negative with the Georgia facility is that it’s located in Georgia.
Ah no. That would be the big plus. Georgia has great weather and tons of things to do and see. We have the mountains in the northwest and the ocean on our east coast.
 
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What has Oklahoma, Oregon, USC, Georgia etc won with those facilities. NOTHING! Losing recruits is a result of on the field success more then PennState’s facilities. How does PSU compare to Iowa and Illinois how about MSU or any other team that beat Franklin?

Stop with the excuses for losing.
 

hapval8286

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What has Oklahoma, Oregon, USC, Georgia etc won with those facilities. NOTHING! Losing recruits is a result of on the field success more then PennState’s facilities. How does PSU compare to Iowa and Illinois how about MSU or any other team that beat Franklin?

Stop with the excuses for losing
You might need to wake up and see what's happened during the playoff era. The teams that make the playoffs the most have spent the most on their football programs including facilities. It aids greatly in bringing in the best assistant coaches and players. Are you saying there is a negligible correlation?
PSU is in the same boat as all other top 50 teams in the NCAA who don't make the playoffs. Any one of them can beat the other on any given day. It's the elite 5-6 teams who have put the most money into their programs that drastically reduce those upset games and are thriving in the playoff era.
 

GrimReaper

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That’s the issue. The allocation at PSU might seem like a big number but it’s not close to what is needed. We are trying to catch up and the top programs aren’t standing still.
OU is spending $370mm to upgrade Memorial Stadium. Bama is spending $288mm (don't know where you get $300mm) to renovate Bryant-Denny, Next time compare apples to apples.
 

danvillenit

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OU is spending $370mm to upgrade Memorial Stadium. Bama is spending $288mm (don't know where you get $300mm) to renovate Bryant-Denny, Next time compare apples to apples.
It’s still the football program. It’s going to take PSU five years to decide what to do with Beaver stadium much less come up with money
 

GrimReaper

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It’s still the football program. It’s going to take PSU five years to decide what to do with Beaver stadium much less come up with money

PSU commissioned as tudy fo Beaver Stadium alternatives. Whatever it comes up with will exceed the OU and Bama bills combined.
 

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While Lasch is much improved, it still does not come close to some of the other top facilities. Franklin is trying to get facilities where they need to be.
 
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You might need to wake up and see what's happened during the playoff era. The teams that make the playoffs the most have spent the most on their football programs including facilities. It aids greatly in bringing in the best assistant coaches and players. Are you saying there is a negligible correlation?
PSU is in the same boat as all other top 50 teams in the NCAA who don't make the playoffs. Any one of them can beat the other on any given day. It's the elite 5-6 teams who have put the most money into their programs that drastically reduce those upset games and are thriving in the playoff era.
I’m saying facilities aren’t the reason we lost to any of the Big teams And that includes OSU. Until we can take care of our own conference foes, no amount of money into facilities will make the difference.

Franklin Fan Boys continue to make excuses for him.
 

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The one thing I don't see in that video is a bunch of National Championship Trophies. When did UGA win there last one 1980?
 

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What are our facilities lacking ? Weight room and locker room look good , coaches offices players lounge .

Let's get a lighted sliding board, your hear to get an education and play football.
 

hapval8286

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What are our facilities lacking ? Weight room and locker room look good , coaches offices players lounge .

Let's get a lighted sliding board, your hear to get an education and play football.
If it were only that simple. You have to start thinking like a top 100 recruit who is 16-17 years old. They have grown up with computers and cell phones their whole life. Technology and lots of it (in all forms) is what attracts most of them. It helps to convince the blue chippers that all the glitz and technological advantages at a particular school will get them to NCAA playoffs as well as drafted into the NFL. Is it any different in the corporate world with the big tech companies having amazing work facilities and perks to attract the best of the best?
 

GrimReaper

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If it were only that simple. You have to start thinking like a top 100 recruit who is 16-17 years old. They have grown up with computers and cell phones their whole life. Technology and lots of it (in all forms) is what attracts most of them. It helps to convince the blue chippers that all the glitz and technological advantages at a particular school will get them to NCAA playoffs as well as drafted into the NFL. Is it any different in the corporate world with the big tech companies having amazing work facilities and perks to attract the best of the best?
So if Franklin gets all of the bells and whistle he wants and doesn't produce championship-winning teams does he get fired?
 

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Did you guys happen to see the video posted yesterday of Maryland's facilities? They included a swimming pool and barber's chairs. How could we ever dream of competing with that??? Oh, but interestingly those incredible amenities did not sway DDS, or Roye, or Mustipher, Jacobs, Wheatley, Walker, KJ Winston and the few dozen other MD kids on the roster to stay home. Maybe they did not get the full tour.
 

GrimReaper

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Did you guys happen to see the video posted yesterday of Maryland's facilities? They included a swimming pool and barber's chairs. How could we ever dream of competing with that??? Oh, but interestingly those incredible amenities did not sway DDS, or Roye, or Mustipher, Jacobs, Wheatley, Walker, KJ Winston and the few dozen other MD kids on the roster to stay home. Maybe they did not get the full tour.
How about Northwestern? Do you think they shelled out $250mm with the objective of winning championships and/or keeping Fitz in harness.
 
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