FC: NFL to eliminate Wonderlic test. Other changes related to evaluating draft prospects.

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Over the past several years, there have been occasional reports of inappropriate questions being asked of draft prospects.
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In 2010, then-Miami Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland apologized to Dallas Cowboys first-round draft pick Dez Bryant for asking during a pre-draft visit whether his mother was a prostitute.🤔

In 2016, then-Atlanta Falcons coach Dan Quinn apologized to Eli Apple because one of his coaches asked the cornerback his sexual preference.

In 2018, former LSU running back Derrius Guice said one team at the combine asked about his sexuality and another inquired if his mother was a prostitute.

Former NFL tight end Benjamin Watson, who played 16 seasons between 2004 and 2020, compared the interview process to an interrogation.

"I can remember sitting in a dark room with a huge spotlight," Watson told the AP last year. "There's a seat there like you're being interrogated for a crime and all the front-office staff is in the back in the shadows and you can't see them. The guy grabbed my wrist and he's like: 'I can feel your pulse, so I know if you're lying to me. Have you ever smoked marijuana?' I said: 'No.' I really hadn't. I've never smoked. He said: 'I think you're lying. I can feel your pulse. Are you lying to us?' I said: 'No, I'm not.'

"So for a minute, I thought I actually did smoke marijuana, and maybe I need to confess to a crime that I didn't commit. But these sorts of tactics that are happening at the combine and that are not being monitored definitely need to be done away with."
 
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Over the past several years, there have been occasional reports of inappropriate questions being asked of draft prospects.
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In 2010, then-Miami Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland apologized to Dallas Cowboys first-round draft pick Dez Bryant for asking during a pre-draft visit whether his mother was a prostitute.🤔

In 2016, then-Atlanta Falcons coach Dan Quinn apologized to Eli Apple because one of his coaches asked the cornerback his sexual preference.

In 2018, former LSU running back Derrius Guice said one team at the combine asked about his sexuality and another inquired if his mother was a prostitute.

Former NFL tight end Benjamin Watson, who played 16 seasons between 2004 and 2020, compared the interview process to an interrogation.

"I can remember sitting in a dark room with a huge spotlight," Watson told the AP last year. "There's a seat there like you're being interrogated for a crime and all the front-office staff is in the back in the shadows and you can't see them. The guy grabbed my wrist and he's like: 'I can feel your pulse, so I know if you're lying to me. Have you ever smoked marijuana?' I said: 'No.' I really hadn't. I've never smoked. He said: 'I think you're lying. I can feel your pulse. Are you lying to us?' I said: 'No, I'm not.'

"So for a minute, I thought I actually did smoke marijuana, and maybe I need to confess to a crime that I didn't commit. But these sorts of tactics that are happening at the combine and that are not being monitored definitely need to be done away with."

Yeah, amazing.
 

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Over the past several years, there have been occasional reports of inappropriate questions being asked of draft prospects.
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In 2010, then-Miami Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland apologized to Dallas Cowboys first-round draft pick Dez Bryant for asking during a pre-draft visit whether his mother was a prostitute.🤔

In 2016, then-Atlanta Falcons coach Dan Quinn apologized to Eli Apple because one of his coaches asked the cornerback his sexual preference.

In 2018, former LSU running back Derrius Guice said one team at the combine asked about his sexuality and another inquired if his mother was a prostitute.

Former NFL tight end Benjamin Watson, who played 16 seasons between 2004 and 2020, compared the interview process to an interrogation.

"I can remember sitting in a dark room with a huge spotlight," Watson told the AP last year. "There's a seat there like you're being interrogated for a crime and all the front-office staff is in the back in the shadows and you can't see them. The guy grabbed my wrist and he's like: 'I can feel your pulse, so I know if you're lying to me. Have you ever smoked marijuana?' I said: 'No.' I really hadn't. I've never smoked. He said: 'I think you're lying. I can feel your pulse. Are you lying to us?' I said: 'No, I'm not.'

"So for a minute, I thought I actually did smoke marijuana, and maybe I need to confess to a crime that I didn't commit. But these sorts of tactics that are happening at the combine and that are not being monitored definitely need to be done away with."
Since one question appears to be repeatedly asked, perhaps the NFL assumes that potential draftee’s whose mothers are prostitutes become better players.
 

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Over the past several years, there have been occasional reports of inappropriate questions being asked of draft prospects.
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In 2010, then-Miami Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland apologized to Dallas Cowboys first-round draft pick Dez Bryant for asking during a pre-draft visit whether his mother was a prostitute.🤔

In 2016, then-Atlanta Falcons coach Dan Quinn apologized to Eli Apple because one of his coaches asked the cornerback his sexual preference.

In 2018, former LSU running back Derrius Guice said one team at the combine asked about his sexuality and another inquired if his mother was a prostitute.

Former NFL tight end Benjamin Watson, who played 16 seasons between 2004 and 2020, compared the interview process to an interrogation.

"I can remember sitting in a dark room with a huge spotlight," Watson told the AP last year. "There's a seat there like you're being interrogated for a crime and all the front-office staff is in the back in the shadows and you can't see them. The guy grabbed my wrist and he's like: 'I can feel your pulse, so I know if you're lying to me. Have you ever smoked marijuana?' I said: 'No.' I really hadn't. I've never smoked. He said: 'I think you're lying. I can feel your pulse. Are you lying to us?' I said: 'No, I'm not.'

"So for a minute, I thought I actually did smoke marijuana, and maybe I need to confess to a crime that I didn't commit. But these sorts of tactics that are happening at the combine and that are not being monitored definitely need to be done away with."
Interesting that the NFL can (and has) gotten away with questions and comments during interviews that cannot be asked of a person interviewing for a normal 9-5 job. Or even a person just walking down the street.
 

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Interesting that the NFL can (and has) gotten away with questions and comments during interviews that cannot be asked of a person interviewing for a normal 9-5 job. Or even a person just walking down the street.

When you're about to make a million-dollar investment which can be leveraged into hundreds of millions of dollars you should be able to vet the prospect thoroughly. No holds barred. When it comes to character or lack thereof, one bad apple can rot the whole bunch. Just sayin.
 

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Or maybe the prostitute question had nothing to do with the guy's mother. It could be the purpose was to gauge their reaction to something insulting/unpleasant. It's like a lie detector test when they ask you a bunch of questions they already know the answers to - name, DOB, age, etc. The purpose is to establish a base line for truthful answers to mundane questions. Then they'll ask some irrelevant ridiculous questions to establish a base line for what they hope are truthful answers to shocking questions. "Is you mother a prostitute?" "Have you ever been sexually attracted to animals?" Then they'll ease into the questions they really want to ask. Interviews can be a giant head game.
 

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When you're about to make a million-dollar investment which can be leveraged into hundreds of millions of dollars you should be able to vet the prospect thoroughly. No holds barred. When it comes to character or lack thereof, one bad apple can rot the whole bunch. Just sayin.
Do you think the NFL owners asked Roger Goodell if his mother was a prostiture? He is the face of the most powerful sports league in the world. He is responsible for billions of dollars. I am sure they wanted to vet the prospect thoroughly. If he was a bad apple he would have upset a multi billion dollar apple cart.

Bet they didn’t ask him that question.

Just sayin
 
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Or maybe the prostitute question had nothing to do with the guy's mother. It could be the purpose was to gauge their reaction to something insulting/unpleasant. It's like a lie detector test when they ask you a bunch of questions they already know the answers to - name, DOB, age, etc. The purpose is to establish a base line for truthful answers to mundane questions. Then they'll ask some irrelevant ridiculous questions to establish a base line for what they hope are truthful answers to shocking questions. "Is you mother a prostitute?" "Have you ever been sexually attracted to animals?" Then they'll ease into the questions they really want to ask. Interviews can be a giant head game.

There are other ways to see how people react without asking something insulting. Years ago, the organization for which In worked required efveryone who interviewed candidates to take a course in it. Lot of the folks wanted to test candidates to see how they would operate under stress and objected to the elimination of questions designed to do so. The instructor responded, "Forget the off-base questions and confrontation tactics. Instead "accidentally" spill a cup of hot coffee or cold water in the person's lap and you'll get a better gauge." Not sure anyone followed that advice and can't imagine doing it when the guy opposite is 6'4" and 270 lbs.
 

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Or maybe the prostitute question had nothing to do with the guy's mother. It could be the purpose was to gauge their reaction to something insulting/unpleasant. It's like a lie detector test when they ask you a bunch of questions they already know the answers to - name, DOB, age, etc. The purpose is to establish a base line for truthful answers to mundane questions. Then they'll ask some irrelevant ridiculous questions to establish a base line for what they hope are truthful answers to shocking questions. "Is you mother a prostitute?" "Have you ever been sexually attracted to animals?" Then they'll ease into the questions they really want to ask. Interviews can be a giant head game.
Which then leads to the obvious- did they ask everyone that same question?
 
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