FC/OT: Airline kicks family off plane for announcing daughter's peanut allergy....

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What say the BWI Tribunal?


A family was kicked off a flight for orchestrating an announcement over their daughter's peanut allergy, according to multiple reports.

Georgie Palmer was flying along with her husband and two daughters from London to Dalaman, Turkey, with SunExpress on May 21, when the dispute broke out, according to the MailOnline.

Palmer's daughter, Rosie, has a severe peanut allergy that can result in a potentially fatal anaphylactic reaction, she told the outlet.

But airline staff refused to make a standard announcement asking other passengers not to eat peanuts. According to an Instagram post seen by the Mail, Palmer took matters into her own hands.

"We gently asked the passengers at the front of the plane to share our request," she wrote. "Row by row, as swift as a carefully crafted toppling domino trail, all the passengers turned back to kindly ask the row behind to please not eat nuts on the flight."

None of the passengers minded at all, she said.

But, she told the Mail, it enraged the pilot. She said he began to yell at them and ultimately ordered them to leave. As a result, the family spent around $6,400 booking alternative flights and hotels, she said.

In a statement to the Mail, a spokesperson for SunExpress said the airline does not make announcements like this as it "cannot guarantee an allergen-free environment on our flights."

Passengers have to notify the airline of special requirements 48 hours in advance, the spokesperson told Business Insider in a statement. They said Palmer didn't do that.

Palmer, in response, told the BBC that she had tried to make contact but could not reach anyone.

The airline also told the Mail that Palmer's husband, Nick Sollom, was "aggressive" to the crew and "tried to gain access to the cockpit."
 
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if he tried to gain access to the cockpit they should have been kicked off.

The family could have told the gate agent or any other airline personnel before the flight.

SunExpress is the Spirit Airlines of Europe right?

I guess - that assumes Ryan Air is the Southwest of Europe.
 

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What say the BWI Tribunal?


A family was kicked off a flight for orchestrating an announcement over their daughter's peanut allergy, according to multiple reports.

Georgie Palmer was flying along with her husband and two daughters from London to Dalaman, Turkey, with SunExpress on May 21, when the dispute broke out, according to the MailOnline.

Palmer's daughter, Rosie, has a severe peanut allergy that can result in a potentially fatal anaphylactic reaction, she told the outlet.

But airline staff refused to make a standard announcement asking other passengers not to eat peanuts. According to an Instagram post seen by the Mail, Palmer took matters into her own hands.

"We gently asked the passengers at the front of the plane to share our request," she wrote. "Row by row, as swift as a carefully crafted toppling domino trail, all the passengers turned back to kindly ask the row behind to please not eat nuts on the flight."

None of the passengers minded at all, she said.

But, she told the Mail, it enraged the pilot. She said he began to yell at them and ultimately ordered them to leave. As a result, the family spent around $6,400 booking alternative flights and hotels, she said.

In a statement to the Mail, a spokesperson for SunExpress said the airline does not make announcements like this as it "cannot guarantee an allergen-free environment on our flights."

Passengers have to notify the airline of special requirements 48 hours in advance, the spokesperson told Business Insider in a statement. They said Palmer didn't do that.

Palmer, in response, told the BBC that she had tried to make contact but could not reach anyone.

The airline also told the Mail that Palmer's husband, Nick Sollom, was "aggressive" to the crew and "tried to gain access to the cockpit."
Thanks for posting this. I love a good “Family gets kicked off airplane because of peanuts 🥜” story. Too often this type of tragedy goes unreported by a biased media.
 

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Or perhaps designate certain flights where no one can bring kids or pets.

They make crates for kids and pets that you check and collect at baggage claim.

 

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So do most Europeans; nicer restaurants will cram families into the worst seating areas while providing a silver bowl of water for dogs. Will say every dog I've ever seen in a German restaurants was extremely well behaved. Kids, not so much.
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Personally, unless the dad was aggressive (and he doesn't deny knocking on the pilot's door which crosses the line IMO), I don't think there is a need to kick them off for asking other passengers to refrain from eating peanuts. When my daughter has friends over who have allergies (some have a TON), we try to keep them as safe as possible noting they are very aware of their allergies and always bring their own snacks/food. But, we still try to accommodate by not having peanuts or whatever else might hurt them out. I did think airlines did away with peanut snacks some time ago, but maybe not.
 
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The one consistent of BWI Tribunal is Ro hates kids. 🤣
Actually that is not true- I like kids. I generally think kids are much easier to deal with than parents.

I just don't think that every situation has to be "kid centric" and that everyone else has to accomodate someone else's child This is a bit of an extreme situation, on the plane, but in general, not everything has to be kid centric.
 

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Personally, unless the dad was aggressive (and he doesn't deny knocking on the pilot's door which crosses the line IMO), I don't think there is a need to kick them off for asking other passengers to refrain from eating peanuts. When my daughter has friends over who have allergies (some have a TON), we try to keep them as safe as possible noting they are very aware of their allergies and always bring their own snacks/food. But, we still try to accommodate by not having peanuts or whatever else might hurt them out. I did think airlines did away with peanut snacks some time ago, but maybe not.
What were the parents thinking? With the mother stating that her daughter may have a potentially fatal reaction, all of this should have taken care of when they booked the flight, not while they were boarded. Once you're on a plane, it's your job to sit down and behave and not bother other passengers. It's not hard.
 

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Personally, unless the dad was aggressive (and he doesn't deny knocking on the pilot's door which crosses the line IMO), I don't think there is a need to kick them off for asking other passengers to refrain from eating peanuts. When my daughter has friends over who have allergies (some have a TON), we try to keep them as safe as possible noting they are very aware of their allergies and always bring their own snacks/food. But, we still try to accommodate by not having peanuts or whatever else might hurt them out. I did think airlines did away with peanut snacks some time ago, but maybe not.
Yeah, but if something does happen to one of those kids, you can call for Emergency Services, and in a short time, appropraite medical actions are taken. A little bit different when you are at 35,000 feet with a bunch of strangers.
 
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They have them....they are called private flights.
You are correct - they do have private flights. Perhaps that parents and the kids should have taken one of those instead of a commercial flight.

The parents could have called a private charter company, made sure they were aware no peanuts in the plane and everything would have ended up better for all. Including this board.

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So do most Europeans; nicer restaurants will cram families into the worst seating areas while providing a silver bowl of water for dogs. Will say every dog I've ever seen in a German restaurant was extremely well behaved. Kids, not so much.
This, too, is the truth. Can confirm.
 
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Personally, unless the dad was aggressive (and he doesn't deny knocking on the pilot's door which crosses the line IMO), I don't think there is a need to kick them off for asking other passengers to refrain from eating peanuts. When my daughter has friends over who have allergies (some have a TON), we try to keep them as safe as possible noting they are very aware of their allergies and always bring their own snacks/food. But, we still try to accommodate by not having peanuts or whatever else might hurt them out. I did think airlines did away with peanut snacks some time ago, but maybe not.
Peanut allergy is a big big deal but you would think that airlines would have the procedure down pat by now. Me, if I had a kid with a bad peanut allergy, I’d do what I can to avoid airplanes, in particular no family trips overseas. Hard call, the kid could find theirselves in considerable physical and emotional distress.
 

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I would be bothered if I was told that I couldn't eat peanuts on my flight. I know this is selfish, but my flight shouldn't be impacted because of her daughter's allergy.

I was eating at a Hibachi restaurant one time and the mother of a small child told the chef to be careful because her daughter is allergic to sesame seeds. The look on his face was priceless. My thought was that I wouldn't take my child to the restaurant or perhaps take a large enough group of people that we don't have to share with anyone.
 
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You are correct - they do have private flights. Perhaps that parents and the kids should have taken one of those instead of a commercial flight.

The parents could have called a private charter company, made sure they were aware no peanuts in the plane and everything would have ended up better for all. Including this board.

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Parents could have handled it better, but nothing is worse than entitled adults that cannot handle kids being on a plane. Kids will always be on commercial flights so for the snowflakes that cannot handle it....they have the choice to make.
 
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Parents could have handled it better, but nothing is worse than entitled adults that cannot handle kids being on a plane. Kids will always be on commercial flights so for the snowflakes that cannot handle it....they have the choice to make.
From the article, the passengers on this flight agreed with the parents and honored their request. The father of the child apparently tried to open the cockpit door because he was unhappy with the way the pilot handled the situation. And that is a big no-no. It does not appear, from this article, that their were any "entitled adults" on this plane, except the parents of the child. If there is any snowflake here, it's them. No one else. The child, in this article, really did not do anything wrong (at least from the article).

But, you are probably referring to my position on the matter - which is fine. There are plenty of stories of people allowing their children to run up and down the aisle, make noise, kick seats, etc. At what point does the parent act like a parent and stop the kid from interfering with other's enjoyment of the flight? I don't feel I am "entitled", but I do feel that I can voice my opinion about having to always accomodate for others, especially if it ruins my experience.
 

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From the article, the passengers on this flight agreed with the parents and honored their request. The father of the child apparently tried to open the cockpit door because he was unhappy with the way the pilot handled the situation. And that is a big no-no. It does not appear, from this article, that their were any "entitled adults" on this plane, except the parents of the child. If there is any snowflake here, it's them. No one else. The child, in this article, really did not do anything wrong (at least from the article).

But, you are probably referring to my position on the matter - which is fine. There are plenty of stories of people allowing their children to run up and down the aisle, make noise, kick seats, etc. At what point does the parent act like a parent and stop the kid from interfering with other's enjoyment of the flight? I don't feel I am "entitled", but I do feel that I can voice my opinion about having to always accomodate for others, especially if it ruins my experience.

I traveled quite a bit back in the day for my job....basically 3 straight years domestic and internationally and I must have just hit the lottery with luck. I rarely if ever had so many problems with kids. An occasional infant crying was the worst of it. Drunk adults on the other hand....they are a bigger problem in my experience. I'm not calling for the ban of alcohol on flights because the exceptions to the rule, but that is just my opinion. Some parents don't parent. Some adults are a-holes and disrupt flights with their behavior.....but we still have to deal with all of them.
 

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I was eating at a Hibachi restaurant one time and the mother of a small child told the chef to be careful because her daughter is allergic to sesame seeds. The look on his face was priceless. My thought was that I wouldn't take my child to the restaurant or perhaps take a large enough group of people that we don't have to share with anyone.
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That'd be like taking a beef-allergic kid to Outback Steakhouse and telling the kitchen staff to be careful - "My kid is allergic to beef".

I don't have any kids. Maybe I'd feel differently if I did but my philosophy is that it's not my job to worry about other people's children (extreme circumstances aside). If I want to eat peanuts, I'm going to eat effing peanuts. I'm an a$$hole and I'm OK with that.
 

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That'd be like taking a beef-allergic kid to Outback Steakhouse and telling the kitchen staff to be careful - "My kid is allergic to beef".

I don't have any kids. Maybe I'd feel differently if I did but my philosophy is that it's not my job to worry about other people's children (extreme circumstances aside). If I want to eat peanuts, I'm going to eat effing peanuts. I'm an a$$hole and I'm OK with that.

Most parents don’t think like this in my experience - but nuts on a plane is not a hibachi dinner. I’d oblige the nut request, probably not the hibachi request given how critical sesame seed/oil is to the cuisine.