FC/OT: Someone tell Liberty University college sports is serious business…
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Very cool. Sports = fun. Imagine that.
Whole place gives me the creeps. I thought I might burst into flames setting foot on that campus when I was down there for my daughter's travel softball tournament.
considering some of your past adventures/escapades/etc., that probably was a legitimate concern.
Well, the whole place made me want to go back in time and attend Liberty when I took my son there for a meet and greet weekend about 10 years ago when he was considering transferring from Dayton shortly after enrolling there. Especially since by then PSU was no longer really the Pennsylvania State University, with their priority for bringing in as many students from abroad as well as out of state at the exclusion of qualified, hardworking Pennsylvania high school students. Incidentally, my son stuck it out and UD, which at least got me a real basketball program to root for, no disrespect meant for Coach Shrewsberry as he seems to be doing a great job so far.
Liberty is a special place for a Christian education, and surely everyone would not feel comfortable there. And it's nice to see them also rally around their sports teams, and have some fun with it.
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This would be pretty cool, if it was anywhere other than at Liberty. That place needs to be burnt to the ground by natural causes (with no one injured, of course).
Nope, this is a place where establishment of a pseudo-real estate hedge fund posing as an institution of higher learning in the name of religion for the enrichment of one family while the president and his wife stalk the grounds looking for students to bang while the other watches is the norm.
The only way you would have burst into flames is if you were actually wholesome and pious. Falwell, Jr. was doing far worse stuff than you've done in your lifetime, and he was their leader.
I get it and am not a fan of the school, but my guess is most athletes there don’t give two sh*ts about where they play - they just want to play. Like Americans suiting up for China in Olympic hockey. Most couldn’t tell you who the Rohingya are.
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It’s even easier to actually listen to Meatloaf sing it as he recorded it as a duet on Bat Out of Hell III
You're correct ... I'm sure there are people who are ignorant of the malfeasance, or apathetic to it as long as they can gain a benefit.
Who condemns an entire organization and all the people connected with it because of its leader? I think Eric Barron had been an embarrassment of a leader at Penn State. Never once would I think to condemn anyone else connected with Penn State because of Barron's failings. To do so is nothing but small-minded bigotry.
The issues with Liberty and its founder, and then his kin and his eventual leadership, are far deeper, and involved far greater evils, than anything some Joe Schmoe president/chancellor of a typical university will generally be guilty of. Like I said, if the place was burnt to the ground, without anyone getting hurt (methane rain cloud and a bolt of lightning would be a nice touch), the world would be a better place. And I'll just leave it at that.
FWIW, Liberty has had plenty of questionable decisions over the years and it doesn’t just end with Falwell and his shenanigans. This is the same “Christian” university that hired Hugh Freeze after he was fired from Ole Miss for hookers and NCAA violations. Comparing Liberty/Falwell to PSU/Barron is not even remotely respectful to PSU/Barron.
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And then there’s this (amongst other articles if you google Liberty University scandal)
Liberty's reason for hiring Hugh Freeze is laughable
Liberty hired Hugh Freeze because he cares about student athletes. He doesn't.
sports.yahoo.com
And then there’s this (amongst other articles if you google Liberty University scandal)
Oh yeah, I forgot. Liberty hired the disgraced fired Baylor AD to lead their athletics department.
What, you don't think saddling thousands of grads every year with six figure debt isn't evil?
That is what people said about jerry Sandusky and Penn state as a whole. Stop the hate!!!
I was tired of hearing it against psu for years and now you start this bs again.
I don’t know anything about Liberty University. (Full disclosure, I’m not a fan of Fallwell et al…. at all). That said, I do have a problem with assigning collective guilt over the actions of a few.
Their hiring of Hugh Freeze and the Baylor AD I think showed a lot into the mindset of their administration/ BoT’s willingness to ditch all principle to try and become the evangelical equivalent of Notre Dame. (JMO).
If anyone has any insight into the alleged ‘pseudo real estate hedge fund’ posing as a university please link it. I’d love to read about it (not judging either way- I just don’t know anything about it).
Their hiring of Hugh Freeze and the Baylor AD I think showed a lot into the mindset of their administration/ BoT’s willingness to ditch all principle to try and become the evangelical equivalent of Notre Dame. (JMO).
If anyone has any insight into the alleged ‘pseudo real estate hedge fund’ posing as a university please link it. I’d love to read about it (not judging either way- I just don’t know anything about it).
COMPLETELY different situations, and ... no, not even close to the same things were being said. The very core of Liberty, from inception, is evil, due to its creator and this was only perpetuated by his offspring. Stop the crutch of bringing everything back to JoePa or Sandusky - not everything in the world is validated, or invalidated, because of rights and wrongs that occurred within that situation.
You're unhinged. Good grief...
Posts like yours are a perfect example of why our public discourse is so broken. By painting an entire organization as evil at its core, you can completely deligitimize it and everyone and everything connected to it. This just entrenches your side as good and there's as bad.
And the obvious, logical conclusion of your way of thinking is that ANY action against an evil-at-its-core organization is appropriate and acceptable. ANY action! And why not, right? I mean if someone or something is truly evil at its core, then good riddance, right? You're doing the world a favor by eliminating it and them. A very 1939-esque way of thinking.
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Exactly. Didn’t we learn when 90 percent of the public were labeling psu and state college as pedophiles and enablers. Dear lord for years people would say things to me when I wore a psu shirt.
The only unhinged post here is yours. How do you get from thinking something is evil, to thinking ANY action against it is appropriate and acceptable? Maybe that's how you think about things and live your life, but I can assure you that it's not how I think of things or live my life. Yes, I want the institution to go bye-bye ... that, of course, doesn't mean any and all actions toward this end are "appropriate and acceptable," let alone any other negative actions toward it being deemed "appropriate and acceptable." Get ahold of yourself. Suggesting this is Hitler-esque thinking ... well, you're just insane. Note that I went out of my way to mention that, even if some natural disaster were to gleefully wipe out the university itself, I would want absolutely no one harmed. I went out of my way to mention that because I figured there'd be a crazy or two who would get all up in arms and yell about wanting to harm people, even though that obviously wasn't the case. And, yet, you not only ignored that, you went full Hitler-mention. Kudos for your craziness. You didn't hold back.
Then there's Canada and Trudeau being egged on by US government officials. Interesting times indeed.
You're a fool and a bigot. Never argue with a fool and a bigot.
If you were a man of your convictions, you'd want to do away with evil and the people that perpetrate evil. Alas, in addition to being a fool and a bigot, you're also a coward. The perfect tri-fecta.
Canada and Trudeau were being egged on by US government officials to label PSU and State College as pedophiles and enablers? And what does this have to do with Liberty University?
What in the world?!? You got caught being WAY overemotional and illogical, and so you lash out like this, after pulling the Hitler card? How am I a bigot? I'm "bigoted" against awful people and the fruits/instruments of their "labors"? OK, yeah, I'm "bigoted" against evil. And that's a problem for you, I guess. Adios.
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