FC/OT: Um….what? Someone explain this recruiting funny business to me…

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Was he taking classes prior to HS? No way he just got everything in a year. '25 to '23 is a jump. Can he legally drive?
Depends on what his state and county has for graduation requirements. lots of kids here in Maryland will already have at least four credits from middle school that are applicable towards graduation if they are as smart as this kid sounds. Plus some places allow someone who is on a varsity sports team to use that as a PE credit.
 

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He’s already 17 years old, according to this article. I turned 17 in May of my Junior year. He’s classified as a sophomore. Why was he class of ‘25? Did his parents hold him back to give him an athletic advantage, now they don’t want to wait any longer? He was being evaluated against kids younger than him. How does he really compare to kids his own age?
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story...ns-hasnt-reclassified-class-2023/70328531007/
 

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This smells bad. Sounds like the kid‘s family is gaming the system and Kiffin is unscrupulous. Kid was being compared to kids 2 years younger than him. If he waits 2 more years, maybe the other kids catch up and his stock goes way down. Florida won’t take him now under those circumstances, but Kiffin will. Good luck.
 

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nc...ane-kiffin-ole-miss-2-years-early/ar-AA1cGsdq

Check out this article. Kid was home schooled and was picking different schools for different sports. He was spending all of his time on sports. He’s already 17. It’s a very unusual story. He was supposed to go to Florida in 2025, but unscrupulous Kiffin will take him now. This might not end well.
Home schooled…that explains the 5.34 GPA….”oh honey, you’re so great, not only did you get an A+, your paper was so good you got an A++.” “Oh, thanks mom, you’re the best teacher ever.”
 

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Home schooled…that explains the 5.34 GPA….”oh honey, you’re so great, not only did you get an A+, your paper was so good you got an A++.” “Oh, thanks mom, you’re the best teacher ever.”

"COVID KID" LOL
 

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Mom: “Son, you’re so athletic for 17. You’re so much better than those high school sophomore QBs.” I can’t believe this fraud is working. Kiffin is the key to it. He’s a slime.
 
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Mom: “Son, you’re so athletic for 17. You’re so much better than those high school sophomore QBs.” I can’t believe this fraud is working. Kiffin is the key to it. He’s a slime.
Check his birth certificate. He could be 25. 😂
 

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https://www.on3.com/db/austin-simmons-151064/

I read that on3 reclassified him and says he’s a 4 star, number 12 QB in the class of ‘23 now. The reclassification reevaluation happened at warp speed. He should have been reevaluated down because his initial eval was against younger kids and he was older. Then there’s the way others are “evaluated.” Grunkemeyer is legit, went to Elite 11, has done everything right, and he’s still 3 star. This is ridiculous. Why is it easier for some to move the needle when fraud is obvious?
 
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I read that on3 reclassified him and says he’s a 4 star class of ‘23 now. He should have been reevaluated down because his initial eval was against younger kids and he was older. Then there’s the way others are “evaluated.” Grunkemeyer is legit, went to Elite 11, has done everything right, and he’s still 3 star. This is ridiculous. Why is it easier for some to move the needle when fraud is obvious?

S.E.C.

Kids who commit to SEC schools get the recruiting bumps - it has been like that forever.
 
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This article is nuts. The dad says he’s ‘in touch with attorneys’ and that they dropped Florida because they were after other QB recruits and that their schedule was too hard.

 

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Didn’t Charles Power say that Grunkemeyer performed better than Lagway at Elite 11? But Lagway is the #3 QB based on the industry average. And it stays that way because Lagway had and has a hype machine that got him noticed very early. The Grunkemeyers should get an attorney too.
 
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I'd be OK with very little bumping. Kid is planning to enroll early and likes us. Let's not have someone offer obscene money and attempt to sway him.
 
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Home schooled…that explains the 5.34 GPA….”oh honey, you’re so great, not only did you get an A+, your paper was so good you got an A++.” “Oh, thanks mom, you’re the best teacher ever.”
so this GPA should equate to around 1550 - 1600 on the SAT (old scoring system). The athletes still need test minimum. I think a 4.0 (you didn't get extra for above 4) required a min of 950 SAT or something like 17 ACT. The NCAA had a table, and if you didn't make requirement it was JC route - i.e. Lacakawana.

also what is the min age for the NFL?
 

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I'd be OK with very little bumping. Kid is planning to enroll early and likes us. Let's not have someone offer obscene money and attempt to sway him.
Yeah, you’re right. I got carried away with the seeming unfairness of it all. The truth is Simmons can’t trust Kiffin and vice versa. Opportunists. That’s not CJF’s way at all. He’s the exact opposite.
 
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VaDave4PSU

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Yeah, you’re right. I got carried away with the seeming unfairness of it all. The truth is Simmons can’t trust Kiffin and vice versa. Opportunists.

Reminds me of Ewers going to Columbus a year early. Odds are, this is just the step to get the kid in college. He'll suit up somewhere else in '24 if I were guessing.
 
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so this GPA should equate to around 1550 - 1600 on the SAT (old scoring system). The athletes still need test minimum. I think a 4.0 (you didn't get extra for above 4) required a min of 950 SAT or something like 17 ACT. The NCAA had a table, and if you didn't make requirement it was JC route - i.e. Lacakawana.

also what is the min age for the NFL?
SAT of 400 to be eligible with a 4. GPA. Not abundantly clear if home schooled students need an SAT.

NFL has no minimum age requirement. To be eligible for the draft a player must be three years removed from (normally scheduled) HS graduation.
 

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“College” football.



😞
 

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It's best not to ask questions at this point.

It's a meat market.

Not that actual education ever mattered (even at dear ole State), but the system has just entirely broken down at this point. NIL isn't even the problem ... it's all the old-timers who hate NIL, but have allowed (and, often, encourage) all the eligibility exceptions and early signing periods that have caused the chaos. Those old-timers never really gave a poo about education, just the proper timing for their latest addition to the meat market. You have kids starting school late (because athletics, not academics), then starting the youth meat market circuit at age 8 or so, travelling the nation putting on shows, then flunking themselves come middle/high school, so they can drive themselves to 8th grade ... then just giving them credits to graduate even if they can barely breath without being reminded to do so ... then they're given tens or hundreds of thousands (or more) to play college ball while they're being "tutored" through at the path of least resistance (gen studies, advertising, sociology, parks & rec, etc.) until they go pro. Anything that happens within that cocoon of crazy is fine. Kid's probably old enough to vote, so reclassing up to 2023 is probably just where he should have been all along. Then you redshirt him. And then he retires before he's drafted, he's so old ... but goes on to play 6 year in the league as a retiree before they say he's washed up and they toss him to the side for the next piece of meat.

The old timers like all that stuff, up until the kid gets paid ... then it's totally not collegiate.
 

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I went through HS with a kid who came to our district in about 6th grade. He was a phenomental athlete. Always won everything. He just had "something" about him. He was a leader to the point where we elected him class president at one point. When our senior football season rolled around, everybody started asking where is this guy? Why isn't he practicing. That's when word started trickling out that he was actually 2+ years older than the rest of us and he was now ineligible due to age.
 
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