FCS All-American transfer OL commits to South Carolina
South Carolina has landed another intriguing prospect from the transfer portal. This Charlotte native was an All-American at the FCS level.
FCS All-American OL commits to South Carolina
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I'm going to show my ignorance here (which is easy for me to do). I assume we paid Pup NIL money to come here. If that's the case, that's money down the drain. Am I correct?
You're asking the wrong guy. I believe ALL NIL money is money down the drain. But, yes, assuming we were paying Howard something, it's all for nought now.
You and I hold the same opinion on NIL. No sense in repeating that.
Here's the thing for those who pay into that farce: how do THEY feel about that? It's peeing away THEIR money. I recall in my junior year @USC a professor defining "unethical" as being when you use someone or something else for personal gain. I don't blame Howard for playing by the rules. But I wonder if those who paid into NIL feel like DAs? Or do they just shrug it off as the cost of doing business? I'm not asking you to answer that.
NIL is such a scam. The football program is raking in tens of millions of dollars annually. Coaches are paid millions of dollars per year. The players are going to school 100% free of charge. Room, board, tuition. On top of that, they get perks out the wazoo. Specialized nutrition, medical care, tutoring, even transportation between classes, and so much more. They are flat-out pampered. So who is being asked to pay the players? Why, the fans, of course!
The FANS are the ones being asked to foot the bill to pay players to pay. This player who is already getting all of the above 100% free of charge and who is playing for a program that is raking in money hand over fist and playing for a coach who lives in a mansion and is financially set for life. I don't care how much money a person has, giving money to NIL is simply foolish. In what other universe would this make sense? If you went out for a coffee and they had a sign up asking for contributions, in addition to the cost of your coffee, to help pay the workers' salary, it would be met with scornful derision. But, for some reason, with NIL, people think it makes perfect sense.
No real man could ever give money to NIL.
It's like me (who has a monthly subscription to Netflix) paying into a fund to pay for actors' salaries. If I did that, just stick a sign on my back that says "Kick me because I'm an idiot".
You mean like that little tip thing that's now at nearly every coffee shop, and has been at bars and restaurants for ages? isn't that the same thing?
Good Lord don't get me started on tip culture. Went to get my oil changed and was prompted to leave a tip. WTF??
Not at all the same thing. In that case you are tipping for a service received. Use any other retail example you want. If you went to Walmart and they had a sign asking for contributions to pay workers salaries. The example above about paying actor's salaries. If you went to the movies and there was a place on the receipt to add an additional amount to help pay the actor's salaries, you'd simply laugh and not even entertain the thought for a nanosecond.
Yeah when I go to Starbucks, I never tip. Those people are paid well and, it's reflected in the cost of my coffee.
Now, don't get me wrong. I do tip. I paid a $4 tip when I got a haircut on Wednesday and did tip when I got take out at O'Charley's yesterday evening. I'm selective and try to use logic.
There is simply no other context in which the NIL arrangement would make sense to anyone. Folks would never even entertain the idea for half a second in any other situation.
I don't care how folks justify it...I can afford it, it's my guilty pleasure. No. It's a sign of a complete and total lack of dignity. I'm trying to imagine a grown man who works for his money, pays a mortgage, buys groceries, whatever other bills he has to pay, even if he's got a fantastic job and makes piles of cash, giving away money to pay college players to play football.
And, guess what? That player you helped to pay? Do you actually want to see him play? Well, you get to pay for that, too! What a great deal!
And he may be gone after one year. Isn't that a kick in the gut..... well, lower than that?
Pup will be a DE before it’s all said and done. He is the linebacker equivalent of Roberto Duran. Feet of stone.
This is truly pathetic. You shouldn't hang on fan websites, Coach Tanner. The combo of you and Beamer are embarrassing. Both of you are totally unfit to run a SEC program in today's world.
Time will tell. I'll also add "Simpkins is a sleeper at OT who was passed on by some big name programs".
You should screenshot that conversation. I think it will be fun for you in a couple of years. lol
I don't think room, board, tuition, books, etc. that are provided by scholarship can be tax deductible. Neither can rent if paid by the athlete out of some NIL income for some luxury apartment. If a donor lets an athlete live for free in a luxury apartment as part of an NIL deal, the value of the lease is considered income to the athlete. A car provided by an alumni car dealer is reportable as income either as the value of the lease or the value of the vehicle.
These athletes have pretty well no deductible expenses since everything related to their playing is provided by the football program. I can assure you there are already some IRS agents who were nerds picked on by football players and other athletes growing up licking their chops thinking about the chance to go after these prima donna athletes.
I hope these athletes or someone has hired some competent accounting/legal help and they are putting some money aside for taxes.
You are 100% correct. Unfortunately, my assumption is that a lot of them are not heeding your hope.
I'm not trying to derail this thread, but after reading your post I felt compelled to share
I hired a company to clean my gutters, I received the invoice via emial, and was asked if I wanted to leave a tip.
Oh let's derail. It's the offseason.
What is the new norm? I get asked for tips for eating at places that don't serve you now. (Waiter or waitress)
Subway, for example. They made the sandwich, but you pick it up and leave. Is that now tip worthy?
And I had someone try to tell me that 20% is the new norm, not 15%. Since when? And who decides that?
I usually give 20% unless the service is sub standard. The vast majority of these people rely on the tips as their main source of income.
I give 20% with the idea that it's above the norm. I feel I'm giving extra at that point.
I object to 20% now being the standard though.
Not at all. But grown men recognize problems and are unafraid to identify them. They also immediately work to correct them. We're at the point where the fans are now asked to pay players in addition to donating to the school and the program. My right to comment and, where applicable, criticize is wide open.
