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What conference is Arizona in these days? I am not sure that is a job you want to jump at. Its stepping stone at best.
They are heading to the B12. Might be attractive for an offensive guy in a conference notorious for refusing to play defense. B12 will be WIDE OPEN next year, and the winning will be in the playoff.
 

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Apparently Fisch is taking a beating there locally in AZ. He was very aggressive in his sales pitch to his players to stay at AZ, not take the money, it will pay off in the long run, family, love, etc...

And it worked. Every contributor was coming back. Fifita could have gone anywhere in the country. Would have been on of the top transfer players in the country. The team meeting was 3 minutes long, and the players are all furious. I know it's just the nature of the business, just thought it was worth mentioning.
 

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I think Clemson would be giddy over a soft out with Riley. Him leaving for HC gig gets them out without having to admit it wasn’t working.
 
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I think Clemson would be giddy over a soft out with Riley. Him leaving for HC gig gets them out without having to admit it wasn’t working.
I think this is the same reason Riley will not be a top candidate. How does he spin the lack of a great offense at Clemson this year. My guess is he needs to show his ability to turn the Clemson offense around before he moves to the top of any lists. Clemson has Jeff Scott and Chad Morris waiting in the wings as a succession plan. I am not sure how much this helps a lak of speed at WR, and an OK but not dominant OL, and a QB who is a step slow making decisions and at times forgets the situation he is in.
 
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I think this is the same reason Riley will not be a top candidate. How does he spin the lack of a great offense at Clemson this year. My guess is he needs to show his ability to turn the Clemson offense around before he moves to the top of any lists. Clemson has Jeff Scott and Chad Morris waiting in the wings as a succession plan. I am not sure how much this helps a lak of speed at WR, and an OK but not dominant OL, and a QB who is a step slow making decisions and at times forgets the situation he is in.

This list of potential candidates includes Barry Odom and Scott Frost. They were 10-3 this year so think they could attract better candidates.
 

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This list of potential candidates includes Barry Odom and Scott Frost. They were 10-3 this year so think they could attract better candidates.
Exactly. If you're down to those, why not roll the dice on a young up and comer like Riley?
 

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I think this is the same reason Riley will not be a top candidate. How does he spin the lack of a great offense at Clemson this year. My guess is he needs to show his ability to turn the Clemson offense around before he moves to the top of any lists. Clemson has Jeff Scott and Chad Morris waiting in the wings as a succession plan. I am not sure how much this helps a lak of speed at WR, and an OK but not dominant OL, and a QB who is a step slow making decisions and at times forgets the situation he is in.
I would say he didn't inherit much talent at the WR and OL positions. He's got a QB that has talent, but isn't very smart. Don't forget, he was running the "Clemson offense". Dabo admitted himself that he was having to overrule Riley a lot in our game b/c Riley wanted to pass it but Dabo wanted to run. I can't imagine that just happened in the USC game.
 

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This list of potential candidates includes Barry Odom and Scott Frost. They were 10-3 this year so think they could attract better candidates.
It goes back to my point from a couple days ago. Arizona is not a great job which is why it is not attracting great candidates. Missouri is a better gig, Kentucky would be a better gig. Arizona is probably in the 30s to 40s in terms of desirable gig on a national level.
 

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Brent Brennan coach of San Jose St, has been named the new Arizona coach. He was a finalist for the job back in 2020
 

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Brent Brennan coach of San Jose St, has been named the new Arizona coach. He was a finalist for the job back in 2020

Weird 34-48 as a head coach. Yes, I'm sure someone will tell me how that's actually really impressive for SJSU.
 

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Weird 34-48 as a head coach. Yes, I'm sure someone will tell me how that's actually really impressive for SJSU.
He has a lot of ties to Arizona, considering what he has had to work with (or lack of) he's done a pretty admirable job as SJSU.
 

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He has a lot of ties to Arizona, considering what he has had to work with (or lack of) he's done a pretty admirable job as SJSU....

there it is

what are his ties to Arizona? He was a GA there for 1 season 24 years ago is all I can tell.
 

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Weird 34-48 as a head coach. Yes, I'm sure someone will tell me how that's actually really impressive for SJSU.

It seemsnto be one of those records that front loaded with losses, as his first couple years wereb1-11 or 2-10. By record only, he's slowly improved them over time, but just to a middling record.
 

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It seemsnto be one of those records that front loaded with losses, as his first couple years wereb1-11 or 2-10. By record only, he's slowly improved them over time, but just to a middling record.

Yeah. His best season was the 2020 anomaly when they were 7-0. Otherwise, he's been, at-best, middling.

Guess it shouldn't be that odd. We hired Muschamp and an unknown in Beamer. Some programs just aren't going to attract proven coaches.
 
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Seriously, why all the angst over this hire ?
Most on here know little to nothing, and don't care about UA football.
What angst. I’ve never heard of the guy until you posted that he was the one they hired. Just looked him up to see what his record was, and seem like an odd hire based on his record.

You said he had a lot of ties to Arizona which made sense so I looked at his coaching history and he had only been there one season 24 years ago.
 

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What angst. I’ve never heard of the guy until you posted that he was the one they hired. Just looked him up to see what his record was, and seem like an odd hire based on his record.

You said he had a lot of ties to Arizona which made sense so I looked at his coaching history and he had only been there one season 24 years ago.
And did you check his ties with Dick Tomey, and the ties Dick Tomey has with Arizona ?
That is what is meant that he has ties to Arizona.
 

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And did you check his ties with Dick Tomey, and the ties Dick Tomey has with Arizona ?
That is what is meant that he has ties to Arizona.
Well, you said “a lot” of ties. Doesn’t seem like a lot to me. He worked for a guy who used to work at Arizona.
 

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Well, you said “a lot” of ties. Doesn’t seem like a lot to me. He worked for a guy who used to work at Arizona.
In this case, It really doesn't matter to what degree you think his ties are quantifiable, it stands to reason that apparently they thought high enough of him to consider him a top candidate back in 2020, and now hired him in 2024.
 

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In this case, It really doesn't matter to what degree you think his ties are quantifiable, it stands to reason that apparently they thought high enough of him to consider him a top candidate back in 2020, and now hired him in 2024.
I never argued otherwise.
 

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We'll see how it works out. He had one good year at Arizona, though they improved from Year 1 to Year 2 to Year 3. That's a brief trend.