Florida State in trouble for nil violation

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So their OC was tampering with a kid not yet in the portal to set up a meeting with a booster and collective. For all the complaining you hear from coaches about tampering, I wish the punishments were more harsh. The kid didn’t end up signing with FSU either.
 
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I can’t imagine anyone NOT doing it. Saban even stated in an interview about how much a player was going make. Thin ice. FSU will sue and NCaA will lose.
 
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So their OC was tampering with a kid not yet in the portal to set up a meeting with a booster and collective. For all the complaining you hear from coaches about tampering, I wish the punishments were more harsh. The kid didn’t end up signing with FSU either.

Wait, I read on one site that the kid WAS in the portal. It boiled down to the assistant coach facilitating the meeting, and the booster offering an NIL deal as a condition of the kid signing.

But I agree wholeheartedly that I wish they could go after tampering. I have no faith they will.
 

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Wait, I read on one site that the kid WAS in the portal. It boiled down to the assistant coach facilitating the meeting, and the booster offering an NIL deal as a condition of the kid signing.

But I agree wholeheartedly that I wish they could go after tampering. I have no faith they will.
Ah, you’re right. Just went back and verified. I read it wrong. My apologies.
 
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Wait, I read on one site that the kid WAS in the portal. It boiled down to the assistant coach facilitating the meeting, and the booster offering an NIL deal as a condition of the kid signing.

But I agree wholeheartedly that I wish they could go after tampering. I have no faith they will.

You gotta know EVERYONE is doing this. Kids are not transferring with NIL deals having been proposed.

In the time Antwane was in the portal, do we think he was praying and fasting over his decision or was he was just waiting on NIL details to be hashed out?
 
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Don't get me wrong, I'm of the opinion everyone is tampering, and everyone is promising money. I'm still adamant that everyone was paying players long before NIL.
 

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You gotta know EVERYONE is doing this. Kids are not transferring with NIL deals having been proposed.

In the time Antwane was in the portal, do we think he was praying and fasting over his decision or was he was just waiting on NIL details to be hashed out?
Remember the HS WR that committed to OSU, Jeremiah Smith? There was a delay in his signing that had everyone on the edge of their seats. The reason for the delay? His NIL agent was making sure everything was in order with his NIL deal. A HS kid, with a NIL agent, already reviewing a NIL deal. That is SUPPOSED to be a violation, no?
 

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Wait, I read on one site that the kid WAS in the portal. It boiled down to the assistant coach facilitating the meeting, and the booster offering an NIL deal as a condition of the kid signing.

But I agree wholeheartedly that I wish they could go after tampering. I have no faith they will.
Not sure what the problem is for a booster who could set up an LLC very quickly and become a legitimate company to pay the player for his NIL in an advertisement.
 
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Not sure what the problem is for a booster who could set up an LLC very quickly and become a legitimate company to pay the player for his NIL in an advertisement.
The problem is the coach was involved in arranging it. The boosters are expected to know the rules as well. So he should have known better than to participate.

If you're suggesting that booster that was disassociated could just set up an LLC to run everything through that's very risky. It's very easy to see who the principal in a LLC is. No doubt FSU has found themselves under a microscope at this point.
 

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Every P5 football program in America today:

 

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The good news is, they banned that coach from recruiting off-campus during the fall of 2023. Since fall of 2023 has passed, that’s a pretty light penalty. Lol
 
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The problem is the coach was involved in arranging it. The boosters are expected to know the rules as well. So he should have known better than to participate.

If you're suggesting that booster that was disassociated could just set up an LLC to run everything through that's very risky. It's very easy to see who the principal in a LLC is. No doubt FSU has found themselves under a microscope at this point.
I don’t understand the rules. What’s wrong with a booster doing anything?
I agree with the coach involvement issue but I don’t understand why the rules preclude it. It may be part of the rules that could be changed in the future.
 

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I don’t understand the rules. What’s wrong with a booster doing anything?
I agree with the coach involvement issue but I don’t understand why the rules preclude it. It may be part of the rules that could be changed in the future.
The booster engaged in something he knows was against regulations...or should have known. Once you are a part of a booster club you're restricted from certain things bc you are affiliated with the athletic department.
 

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I am no expert, but I thought they couldn't OFFICIALLY tell a player he will get an NIL deal if he signs. (The booster)
 

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I am no expert, but I thought they couldn't OFFICIALLY tell a player he will get an NIL deal if he signs. (The booster)
I think those are the rules too. However, when a company interviews a job candidate (making an analogy of NIL being like a job), then the employer has a right to compare the candidate’s value to their company. I’m just disagreeing with the rules.
 
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You can with portal guys, as long as he's in the portal. You're not supposed to be able to with HS guys.
Why? A college player have been restricted by the NCAA from having an outside job while there is no restriction for a high school player. I’m just complaining about the rules.
 

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Why? A college player have been restricted by the NCAA from having an outside job while there is no restriction for a high school player. I’m just complaining about the rules.
College players can have jobs. There's nothing the NCAA can do about Lanorris Sellers getting a job down at Chilis. The restrictions were that it could not be related to their athletic careers. So Ethan Petry wouldn't be able to work for a private baseball trainer or coach on a youth travel baseball team.

The NCAA has bequeathed unto themselves the ultimate authority on when an athlete has value attached to their NIL. Having said that, all a state has to do is pass a law saying HS kids can get NIL, and poof...the NCAA is powerless.
 

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College players can have jobs. There's nothing the NCAA can do about Lanorris Sellers getting a job down at Chilis. The restrictions were that it could not be related to their athletic careers. So Ethan Petry wouldn't be able to work for a private baseball trainer or coach on a youth travel baseball team.

The NCAA has bequeathed unto themselves the ultimate authority on when an athlete has value attached to their NIL. Having said that, all a state has to do is pass a law saying HS kids can get NIL, and poof...the NCAA is powerless.
I do believe there either was or is a restriction about having a job because they could get a no show job from a booster. Not enough time right now to look it up. Thanks
 

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Don't get me wrong, I'm of the opinion everyone is tampering, and everyone is promising money. I'm still adamant that everyone was paying players long before NIL.
I can verify this happened quote often at Clemson while I was there.
 

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New set of rules ought to come with new set of punishments. I'm thinking portal ban for two years.